i love when tragedies are like “the love was there. it didnt change anything. it didnt save anyone. there were just too many forces against it. but it still matters that the love was there”
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i love when tragedies are like “the love was there. it didnt change anything. it didnt save anyone. there were just too many forces against it. but it still matters that the love was there”
older lesbian outside the bar: *lighting a cigarette* when I was graduating high school you were just a baby. isn't that crazy
me, understanding the passage of time: not really
i'm sorry i don't know what came inside me. came into me. came over me. sorry.
heated rivalry really is that fucking serious. its seriously not a joke to me. shane hollander is realnand alive and we have to gethimout
i know that every day is a new serious conversation about shane hollander on here but at some point i'd like to spend some time on the lack of agency he feels (and is afforded) when it comes to his sexuality. rose goads him out of the closet (not in a cruel way, but he's not necessarily prepared to come out to her), his father violates his privacy and therefore pushes him into a situation shane isn't ready for ("i did not want this to be how i told you"), in the books hayden makes the stupidest fucking choice ever and outs shane to the whole entire world without even giving it a second thought, in the books ilya actually gets legitimately MAD at shane over the fact he's not ready to publicly come out due to the vitriol/abuse he knows he would endure because of it (which happens, btw, he was 100% right to be scared of that). he never gets to do it his way. he never gets to have any control over it at all. i think it adds something else to "i tried really hard but i just can't help it" like he never gets to dictate the terms. he's gay, can't fix it or change it, for a long time he can't even accept it or say it out loud. people keep finding out, he can't stop them. people keep trying to force him to talk about it, he can't get out of it. he never gets to keep it, he never gets to be the one who decides the secret gets shared. there's just this real helplessness that sows itself inside of him as he continues to be forced into these situations that skin him raw every single time. forced out, over and over again. only rose does it as an act of kindness/with good intentions. he tried really hard but he should've known all along that this was never going to be his secret to keep or his decision to make. i just know it's absolute hell for him like i just know it absolutely tears a hole through him i know it's so painful to have this happen over and over. and it's not even like his control over the situation is slipping through his fingers—it keeps getting yanked straight out of his hands. he's never given the proper amount of agency. he's never given the choice or the chance. the lack of control he feels over this manifests itself in other ways. i know it's not a popular interpretation but i do firmly believe shane has a propensity for self harm/self destructive behavior and he absolutely punishes himself for everyone else's lack of consideration. he wouldn't be feeling like this if there wasn't something wrong with him that needed to be kept a secret at all costs. he's doing it to himself. he deserves it, in a way. and he never gets mad at these people for violating his trust and privacy. he relents to ilya (because it's not fair for him to expect ilya to hide), he forgives his parents (because he never should've lied to them in the first place), he dismisses hayden's mistake as if it didn't even matter (because it was his own fault for acting like that in a semi-public place). and he only does this because he's turning it all inward, he's keeping it all inside, he's blaming all of it on himself. every time he's faced with something like this he finds a way to make it his own fault. idk there's more to this the words aren't coming to me right now. i'll keep thinking about it though
sorry but like what do you mean he’s at the prime of his career literally fresh off his third cup win famously known as being the best player in the entire league revered and rewarded at every turn and then suddenly he’s second line no captaincy and everyone else on the team makes fun of him all the time and apparently the media turn against him so they’re glad he goes to some loser team no one even cares so he just goes there to languish the rest of his career he loses all the respect he worked so hard for he abandons his entire legacy and they won’t even give him the A as consolation Oh my god we’ve gotta get him out we’ve gotta save him somebody do something!!
i don’t think shane is ever actually at all afraid that his parents would react really badly to him being gay, like he’s not worried they’re going to call him slurs or cut him off or something. he’s just worried they’ll react by reacting exactly how they do react, by viewing it as a thing to be quietly accepted and managed. as said before shane’s problem is an unfortunate level of clairvoyance in that he is the only one who accurately understands the persecutory nature of the universe he lives in which no other character can see.
Shane is like if a final girl wasnt even allowed to do reactive violence or run or move or scream or
the thing about Shane is he’s stuck in the labyrinth and there’s no map and Ariadne didn’t leave a red string and the Minotaur’s around here somewhere but he can’t see it. and he’s been here for so long that he’s sort of started sexualising the labyrinth because well all of his desire is inside of the walls anyway. and there’s no way out and thank god there’s no way out because who knows what’s out there. also the Minotaur is still in here somewhere
idk guys i know we all want him to join the cens and chill out and go apeshit sometimes but do we really think there’s a world in which shane hollander, after being outed, lets his foot off the gas even a little?? now that winning is arguably even more important and frankly more difficult than it ever was?? when, if he cant build a legacy and a record for himself that’s absolutely tectonic, he’s just gonna be known forever as ilya rozanov’s bottom??
You don’t have to admit you have an open wound if you close the wound before anyone sees it, yknow? but the fucking problem is people do nothing but talk about how much they hate open wounds around you and it’s like buddy I’m trying to close the thing before you see it. and then they get out the wound salt “just in case” like okay great. now there’s wound salt in my open wound that you keep saying you hate and don’t want to see. give me some fucking breathing room to close the wound then damn……… but they already know about the wound because you’ve been trying to close it for years. they weren’t speaking in hypotheticals. they know. and yuuuup there’s more wound salt
So Role Model begins after Troy has gotten traded because his coach took Dallas Kent's side, and all I can think about is how that happened before the events of the book, isn't even part of the story itself, and the toll being traded abruptly takes on Troy is given so much attention and empathy immediately. Troy is allowed to feel rage and despair over what happened even past the day he's traded, whereas in tlg, though Shane is allowed to cry and feel "sick" and "furious" directly after his team accuses him of intentionally tripping, he's already planning his transfer with Ilya the next day, and is depicted so much less seriously:
This takes place the morning after. It's not even from Shane's pov. Everything about it is so casual. This happens on page 387, and we don't hear anything about it again after this conversation until 398, and it's this:
Here he's depicted as having essentially made peace with it. What's even more absurd to me, is that this all happened specifically because Shane tripped. Specifically because the character who believed he had to be perfect or his whole hockey career would implode, made a mistake, and he made a mistake because he couldn't, of course, be perfect. In what world would that result in Shane being "done with fighting the future, and with trying to be perfect." How could he skip from his worst nightmare coming true, the very nightmare that dictated his every behavior down to standing on balancing balls and refusing to eat a cookie on Christmas, to just accepting he can't be perfect?
But there's something else that's just even more offensive to me - So far, at no point in Role Model (which I am only five chapters into, to be fair) has Troy's loss ever been trivialized. In fact, what he has lost and the toll it has taken on him is repeatedly emphasized.
But when Shane is talking to Ilya about hypothetically transferring to Ottawa the morning after the fallout with the team he's been with since day 1, captained for the last decade, and won three cups with, she included this on page 388:
So first of all, there's Shane saying that he's going to "calm down" as if 1) he doesn't have the right to be however angry he supposedly is, and, more over, 2) as if he is in any way being depicted as something other than calm here? Both Shane and Ilya are talking in this scene like they're deciding what they want for dinner and not whether or not Shane is going to uproot his entire career to transfer to Ottawa and Reid had Shane say that he was going to "calm down." It's just so condescending to me.
But then, in the next paragraph, Ilya thinks that he doesn't want to get his hopes up because it would take "a lot more" than negative public reception to make Shane leave.
That on its own would be fine except for the fact that that's almost literally all it took to make Shane leave!
Because again, this isn't brought up again until 398 when Shane literally thinks the words "The media in Montreal had been vicious to Shane, and he didn't think he could ever feel good about representing that team again."
We don't even see any of what happens between when Shane and Ilya first talk about Shane transferring and Shane officially deciding to transfer. We don't see any further interaction with his team or his coach. We don't see JJ apologize to him. We don't see the media's response to him. We don't see Shane grieving, Shane expressing his rage - anything. We don't see fucking anything. As far as we know, Shane pretty much literally decided to leave the Voyageurs because they didn't apologize to him and because the media was vicious to him and "he didn't feel good about" representing them anymore. It is all treated like this inconvenient and unfortunate happenstance that has no further effect on him beyond having to make the difficult decision to stick to his principles and leave the team.
You know who else was treated viciously by the media? Troy. And can you guess what we get to see, and have repeatedly emphasized to us right away?
I mean it's not like I didn't know it was going to be like this but it's so glaring I just don't understand how anybody can read these books and come away thinking that Reid ever treated Shane with as much empathy as any of her white characters.
i actually think shane hollander should be even meaner and even more selfish. as a treat
but like. genuinely its so fucking frustrating how many times fandom will take a character of color and fill in every single blank about them with racial stereotypes. and then if they receive pushback it's all "don't like don't read!" and "it's literally not that deep" and "i'm just playing with my touys!" and whatnot. god forbid you have to think about racism for two fucking minutes
people whining about how so many people are criticizing tlg and don't know how to have fun and blah blah blah are so funny. like oh im sorry pointing out an author's pervasive racism ruins your fun. unfortunately for you, analyzing why a book i thought was dogshit is, in my opinion, dogshit, is actually part of how i have fun. so sorry thinking about homophobia in media ruins your day though. hope you get well soon!
the montreal metros would eat apollos cattle despite shanes warning of their doom
armand isnt even a fictional character to me hes literally real
And i must defend his honor