[hestiacygnus]

*Gets ready to hide from the internet*

[sawtoothjack]

Obsession (2026) spoiler

[catchymemes]

Notice at a shelter

[beifong-brainrot]

Tlok: in book 2, we will highlight just how straining the role of Avatar can be upon a family, due to the massive responsibility that it places upon a singular individual, forcing them to carry the weight of the world on their shoulders and not allowing them to spend as much time with their loved ones as they'd like. Furthermore, we will also be exploring the difficulties genocide surivors may face in their family units, as the sense of responsibility to a dying culture weighs on every member, creating feelings of pressure, rivalry and alienation in the children. This is a complex and nuanced subject and it is important to remember that harm and trauma in families doesn't always come from a lack of love or lack of trying from the parents side.

98% of the fandom for some reason: Oh my god I can't believe Aang is an awful neglectful father who resented teo of his children for not being airbenders

[elzifelzi]

The avatar fandom is so funny cuz here's a wonderful story about friendship adventure, forgiveness, repentance ,self sacrifice,hope and healing.

And then you have people treating the 12 year old main character worse than the actual villains in the show just because katara ended up with him instead of their fav.

Even though katara throughout the series,and the books and tlok is still her own character outside of her relationship with aang and has her own agency...but i guess that don't matter to yall huh.

Then they'll try to twist it like they're on some morally righteous path when in reality they're just violently grasping at imaginary straws and projecting their own feelings,insecurities and headcanons onto these children instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be.

Like actual murderers ,abusers,war criminals, colonizers(which yall stan), poachers, brainwashers in the series to hate.

And yall decide to direct all your hate on the 12 year old genocide survivor, whose literally a sweetheart and gets upset when he hurts a fly while absolving characters who've done shitty things throughout the majority of the series just cuz they had a change of heart.

Insane shit

And no i don't care which ship u stan this isn't about that,nor am I a shipper of any kind when it comes to atla.

If this how yall acting with atla i can't imagine how shitty it's gonna be when seven havens drops.

[sawtoothjack]

"instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be."

[elzifelzi]

Like we've gotten to this weird point where folks completely ignore what is presented to them on the screen in favor of what they feel should of happened and it's like at that point you're just not engaging with the show anymore. You're engaging with a version of the show that exists only in your head.

Cuz deadass, it's fine to like non canon ships, shipping as annoying as it can get at times is a necessary part of fandom.

And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane.

Like all their headcanons must be fact or else it's not valid.

Cuz like you can ship zutara or whatever while acknowledging that in canon they do not show any lick romantic attraction to each other. It's fine to acknowledge that katara and zuko at worst are acquaintances and at best a just good friends in canon.

You can dislike aangs character without just blatantly mischaracterizing him at every turn to suit the weird agenda they have against him.

And You can have proper discussions about these characters while still remembering that All these characters are children and behave as such within the show. INCLUDING KATARA who is one of the best written characters in the show and the subsequent tie in media.

And if for some reason you can't do any of that then maybe u just don't like atla.

[sawtoothjack]

"And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane." sadly, it happens in a lot of fandom, i love hc, fanfic, and theory and i think people could be v creative abt it, but forcing hc/ur fantasies into canon to the point not acknowledging what happen from og source was annoying. They don't understand, sometimes it's not 'bad writing' and pretty sure creator was understand why certain character behave the way they are. You guys just mad cause they didn't fit the narrative what inside your head/how you wanted them to be.

[elzifelzi]

I agree cuz headcanons and stuff of that nature is great and can allow for interesting new discussions and interpretations of the story.

And I'm alwyas gonna support people being creative.

But it's gotten to the point where atla fans have their judgement clouded by it.

Like how people were hating on pavi cuz of that theory that the next avatar resembles the previous avatars love and it's like it's a clever theory sure but it's only ever been a theory that I'm at least 99% certain they weren't thinking about when they designed any character.

But again headcanons aren't supposed to color your impression of the story.

So when people make up all this nonsense about aang being abusive or forcing katara to do xyz and how zuko is the person closest to katara in the gaang and allat it's truly frustrating to see cuz that's not the story the show presents thats what people thats what they want the show to present to validate all their shipping nonsense.

Or when people say it's bad writing that 14 year old katara fell for 12 year old aang and its like noooo you wouldn't have fallen for 12 year old aang when you were 14 but katara did. Just cuz it's not something you see yourself doing doesn't mean it compromises anything presented in the story.

[sawtoothjack]

"Just cuz it's not something you see yourself doing doesn't mean it compromises anything presented in the story." u tell em!! i remember a person also said Toph was treated awfully because she lives in a swamp, like did they not remember how much this lady hated city and people in general? she hates rules and why are we suprised she choose peacefulness?

[elzifelzi]

Exactly

Like I'm not fond of some things legend of korra did with the gaang

But their endings do make sense, from as early as the fortune teller we know katara does want to fall in love and get married and have children and grandchildren so seeing her do exactly that in tlok makes sense is it sad that her husband died of course aang dies 16 years before season 1 of tlok thats honestly not that long so of course she'd seem lonely but we know that kya lives with her and that tenzin visits her and bumi does too so it's not like she's all by herself. Not to mention her being regarded as a great water bender and healer,training korra her entire life, plus helping the founding of republic city and the outlawing of blood bending. Nothing in the way kataras live panned out post atla seems wrong or ooc for her. People assume that cuz she's not an involved fighter anymore that somehow that ruins her character but she's 84 and been fighting since she was 14 she deserves to rest.

Even toph herself says that.

Toph being an old hermit in the swamp makes perfect sense for her , like a person who loves being connected to the earth, free from rules and the pressures of society. Nobody to tell her what to do and nobody to bother her. Someone who sees through the earth going to essentially the heart of the earth where she'd still be able to see her family and loved ones. Plus since opal and the other grandkids remembers toph we know that toph hasn't been away for that long 10 years tops. Even tough doesn't really like fighting much anymore

Like these endings make sense for the characters in canon people just dislike them cuz thats not how they headcanoned their endings. Though I still don’t know how I feel about toph being a cop

[sawtoothjack]

yes, i have several issues with tlok writing gaang too, but it was probably because there's only 12 episode and they need to focus on present conflict/character. Like, Toph doesn't have energy to face Kuvira and choose to be lowkey (which funny, because out of all gaang in their prime, she was the most thrilled when it comes to kicking people ass), same as Katara choose to be a healer in civil war while the other youngster fight in a battle

[theintrovertedextrovert]

I think the matthias hate is so forced, people forget that all the crows have their flaws, and they're all morally grey. And I think that people assume 19 is a very big age, that after 18 a switch just clicks and every mistake after that is unforgivable, when that is simply not the case. Ofc, this is NOT to say that his hatred was justified, not at all.

But let's say, in these times, teenagers have so much access to different forms of media, people from different cultures, etc.— it's privilege in a way to know how the world works and look beyond prejudice and stereotypes, and to form opinions of your own.

Matthias, on the other hand, lost his parents when he was young, and was quite literally raised by a dictator. And YET, he believed that the Grisha received a fair trial and a chance to explain themselves. He did not know how deep corruption ran, and how it would come to intertwine with his faith. He was groomed into submission marketed as 'duty', and he still managed to unlearn it, and in doing so experienced a love so profound and soul-consuming, that in his last moments all knowledge was a distant memory, save for the love he felt for Nina.

[sawtoothjack]

i haven't read the book (just few spoiler), but since Katterdam based of Dutch 17th century and during this period, the Dutch Republic became a global world power, driven by the Dutch East India Company (VOC) where greedy leader/merchant exploited spices/culture, i can assure you, a man like Kaz Brekker would join them as long as it makes a lot of money. Hating 'racism' but not 'capitalism' never sit right with me (both are awful). Everyone in the world would at least have prejudice over something when they growing up, but greedy people would never feel enough. I love all the crows, i really do, the Matthias hate just seems hypocrite to me

[elzifelzi]

The avatar fandom is so funny cuz here's a wonderful story about friendship adventure, forgiveness, repentance ,self sacrifice,hope and healing.

And then you have people treating the 12 year old main character worse than the actual villains in the show just because katara ended up with him instead of their fav.

Even though katara throughout the series,and the books and tlok is still her own character outside of her relationship with aang and has her own agency...but i guess that don't matter to yall huh.

Then they'll try to twist it like they're on some morally righteous path when in reality they're just violently grasping at imaginary straws and projecting their own feelings,insecurities and headcanons onto these children instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be.

Like actual murderers ,abusers,war criminals, colonizers(which yall stan), poachers, brainwashers in the series to hate.

And yall decide to direct all your hate on the 12 year old genocide survivor, whose literally a sweetheart and gets upset when he hurts a fly while absolving characters who've done shitty things throughout the majority of the series just cuz they had a change of heart.

Insane shit

And no i don't care which ship u stan this isn't about that,nor am I a shipper of any kind when it comes to atla.

If this how yall acting with atla i can't imagine how shitty it's gonna be when seven havens drops.

[sawtoothjack]

"instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be."

[elzifelzi]

Like we've gotten to this weird point where folks completely ignore what is presented to them on the screen in favor of what they feel should of happened and it's like at that point you're just not engaging with the show anymore. You're engaging with a version of the show that exists only in your head.

Cuz deadass, it's fine to like non canon ships, shipping as annoying as it can get at times is a necessary part of fandom.

And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane.

Like all their headcanons must be fact or else it's not valid.

Cuz like you can ship zutara or whatever while acknowledging that in canon they do not show any lick romantic attraction to each other. It's fine to acknowledge that katara and zuko at worst are acquaintances and at best a just good friends in canon.

You can dislike aangs character without just blatantly mischaracterizing him at every turn to suit the weird agenda they have against him.

And You can have proper discussions about these characters while still remembering that All these characters are children and behave as such within the show. INCLUDING KATARA who is one of the best written characters in the show and the subsequent tie in media.

And if for some reason you can't do any of that then maybe u just don't like atla.

[sawtoothjack]

"And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane." sadly, it happens in a lot of fandom, i love hc, fanfic, and theory and i think people could be v creative abt it, but forcing hc/ur fantasies into canon to the point not acknowledging what happen from og source was annoying. They don't understand, sometimes it's not 'bad writing' and pretty sure creator was understand why certain character behave the way they are. You guys just mad cause they didn't fit the narrative what inside your head/how you wanted them to be.

[elzifelzi]

I agree cuz headcanons and stuff of that nature is great and can allow for interesting new discussions and interpretations of the story.

And I'm alwyas gonna support people being creative.

But it's gotten to the point where atla fans have their judgement clouded by it.

Like how people were hating on pavi cuz of that theory that the next avatar resembles the previous avatars love and it's like it's a clever theory sure but it's only ever been a theory that I'm at least 99% certain they weren't thinking about when they designed any character.

But again headcanons aren't supposed to color your impression of the story.

So when people make up all this nonsense about aang being abusive or forcing katara to do xyz and how zuko is the person closest to katara in the gaang and allat it's truly frustrating to see cuz that's not the story the show presents thats what people thats what they want the show to present to validate all their shipping nonsense.

Or when people say it's bad writing that 14 year old katara fell for 12 year old aang and its like noooo you wouldn't have fallen for 12 year old aang when you were 14 but katara did. Just cuz it's not something you see yourself doing doesn't mean it compromises anything presented in the story.

[sawtoothjack]

"Just cuz it's not something you see yourself doing doesn't mean it compromises anything presented in the story." u tell em!! i remember a person also said Toph was treated awfully because she lives in a swamp, like did they not remember how much this lady hated city and people in general? she hates rules and why are we suprised she choose peacefulness?

[elzifelzi]

The avatar fandom is so funny cuz here's a wonderful story about friendship adventure, forgiveness, repentance ,self sacrifice,hope and healing.

And then you have people treating the 12 year old main character worse than the actual villains in the show just because katara ended up with him instead of their fav.

Even though katara throughout the series,and the books and tlok is still her own character outside of her relationship with aang and has her own agency...but i guess that don't matter to yall huh.

Then they'll try to twist it like they're on some morally righteous path when in reality they're just violently grasping at imaginary straws and projecting their own feelings,insecurities and headcanons onto these children instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be.

Like actual murderers ,abusers,war criminals, colonizers(which yall stan), poachers, brainwashers in the series to hate.

And yall decide to direct all your hate on the 12 year old genocide survivor, whose literally a sweetheart and gets upset when he hurts a fly while absolving characters who've done shitty things throughout the majority of the series just cuz they had a change of heart.

Insane shit

And no i don't care which ship u stan this isn't about that,nor am I a shipper of any kind when it comes to atla.

If this how yall acting with atla i can't imagine how shitty it's gonna be when seven havens drops.

[sawtoothjack]

"instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be."

[elzifelzi]

Like we've gotten to this weird point where folks completely ignore what is presented to them on the screen in favor of what they feel should of happened and it's like at that point you're just not engaging with the show anymore. You're engaging with a version of the show that exists only in your head.

Cuz deadass, it's fine to like non canon ships, shipping as annoying as it can get at times is a necessary part of fandom.

And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane.

Like all their headcanons must be fact or else it's not valid.

Cuz like you can ship zutara or whatever while acknowledging that in canon they do not show any lick romantic attraction to each other. It's fine to acknowledge that katara and zuko at worst are acquaintances and at best a just good friends in canon.

You can dislike aangs character without just blatantly mischaracterizing him at every turn to suit the weird agenda they have against him.

And You can have proper discussions about these characters while still remembering that All these characters are children and behave as such within the show. INCLUDING KATARA who is one of the best written characters in the show and the subsequent tie in media.

And if for some reason you can't do any of that then maybe u just don't like atla.

[sawtoothjack]

"And headcanons and such are fun but like the way these people let their headcanons cloud their judgement of the media they're watching is truly insane." sadly, it happens in a lot of fandom, i love hc, fanfic, and theory and i think people could be v creative abt it, but forcing hc/ur fantasies into canon to the point not acknowledging what happen from og source was annoying. They don't understand, sometimes it's not 'bad writing' and pretty sure creator was understand why certain character behave the way they are. You guys just mad cause they didn't fit the narrative what inside your head/how you wanted them to be.

[noorhelming]

NOORA & WILLIAM in BARE LIGGE HER

[elzifelzi]

The avatar fandom is so funny cuz here's a wonderful story about friendship adventure, forgiveness, repentance ,self sacrifice,hope and healing.

And then you have people treating the 12 year old main character worse than the actual villains in the show just because katara ended up with him instead of their fav.

Even though katara throughout the series,and the books and tlok is still her own character outside of her relationship with aang and has her own agency...but i guess that don't matter to yall huh.

Then they'll try to twist it like they're on some morally righteous path when in reality they're just violently grasping at imaginary straws and projecting their own feelings,insecurities and headcanons onto these children instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be.

Like actual murderers ,abusers,war criminals, colonizers(which yall stan), poachers, brainwashers in the series to hate.

And yall decide to direct all your hate on the 12 year old genocide survivor, whose literally a sweetheart and gets upset when he hurts a fly while absolving characters who've done shitty things throughout the majority of the series just cuz they had a change of heart.

Insane shit

And no i don't care which ship u stan this isn't about that,nor am I a shipper of any kind when it comes to atla.

If this how yall acting with atla i can't imagine how shitty it's gonna be when seven havens drops.

[sawtoothjack]

"instead of just acknowledging the story for what it is and what it was intended to be."

[sandycandyxd]

So to get it right…just collecting the claims made about Aang over the years.

“Aang is manipulative and controlling”… but somehow he’s also “too passive and never takes initiative.”

“Aang never respected Katara’s choices”… but people also accuse him of “letting her walk all over him.”

“Aang didn’t care enough about Katara”… but he’s supposedly “obsessively attached” to her.

“Aang is selfish for wanting love”… but also “emotionally unavailable and Katara does all the emotional labor.”

“Aang is immature and childish”… but apparently also “calculated and manipulative.”

“Aang forced Katara into a relationship”… even though she’s literally the one who kissed him in the finale.

“Aang only saw Katara as a prize”… but he repeatedly supported her goals, anger, leadership, and independence.

“He never respected boundaries”… while spending most of the series backing off whenever Katara was upset with him.

“Aang is toxic because he feared losing Katara”… as if attachment and vulnerability are somehow abuse now.

Can y’all at least pick and choose one narrative 🙄

Apparently everyone can be traumatized and make mistakes in this show, except of him. I seriously don’t understand how anyone can hate this cutie pie 😭

[noorhelming]

We'll make things right, we'll feel it all tonight We'll find a way to offer up the night The indescribable moments of your life The impossible is possible tonight ♪ 

27.05.2016 𒄬 FREDAG, 16:55

[yriniana-deactivated20260602]

Seriously, how is it that every single person in the team gets to have their emotional scars acknowledged, but the twelve year old boy who survived the absolute worst case scenario of a genocide isn’t allowed to express a single feeling without getting flak?

Throughout the whole series, everyone keeps bringing up those moments where Aang is literally backed into a corner, pressured to completely abandon every part of his identity as an Air Nomad.

It’s endless, where characters constantly shoving it in his face: “Just kill the Fire Lord, you’re the Avatar!” Like, hello? This is a boy raised in a culture where violence was always the absolute last resort, the very thing his people stood against. Of course he lashes out! He’s fighting to stay true to who he is and what he believes in, yet somehow he’s the problem here?

And spare me that lazy, nonsense excuse: “Well, he’s the Avatar, so he has to be mature and deal with his emotions better.”

Give me a break. Everyone else got their moments to work through their trauma and grief, right?

But the second Aang finally has enough and lets his feelings out, suddenly everyone’s complaining: “Ugh, why did he snap at them? I can’t believe he lashed out at Katara when she was just trying to help.”

Are you kidding me? If anyone had a right to be furious, it’s him. He’s literally the last person left from his entire people! And despite all that, he still tries so hard to do the right thing, refusing to let justified anger or pain turn him into something he’s not.

It really feels like there’s a double standard here, and it honestly comes off as pretty xenophobic, people are so quick to paint him as the bad guy, all to make a character who literally supported genocide and wanted to finish what Sozin started look better. The guy spent two whole seasons doing that, it’s ridiculous.

[sandycandyxd]

I genuinely do not understand where this whole “Katara would be mad at Aang for choosing her over cosmic energy” narrative comes from 👀

This is literally the same Katara in The Awakening who called Aang selfish for leaving them behind to carry the burden of saving the world alone. She explicitly says she understands the world needs him, but they need him too.

And considering how deeply Katara was hurt by her father leaving to save them, it makes even less sense to claim she would have wanted Aang to completely detach himself emotionally from everyone, especially her. Katara understands responsibility, but she also values emotional connection and the people she loves being present in her life.

So if Aang had actually gone through with fully letting go of all earthly attachment (which he decided to do and was also in the process of doing it, when he was killed by Azula), Katara probably would have understood why he did it, but she still would have been emotionally devastated by it. She would not be angry that he chose her and wanted to stay connected to the people he loved. If anything, she would have been relieved, and together they would have looked for another solution… which is literally what happened.

[sawtoothjack]

it's also the same Katara that warned him about how dangerous Avatar state in General Fong episode. and don't want him hurting himself. Those people are hypocrites, if Aang chooses Katara, they'd label him selfish and don't understand what Katara wants. But those are the same people who critizised Aang who later on busy saving the world and ended up neglecting his family (according those people). The same people also calling Aang uses Katara for 'breeding machine' but they also think Aang failed to rebuild air nation and should do harem instead marrying Katara. tired tired tired

[animusrox]

[nattanoora]

｢ LØRDAG • 30 APRIL, 2016 • 12:34 ｣

[noorhelming]

06.05.2016 ✩ 2x08: Du tenker bare på William

“You have to accept that not everyone sees the world the same way you do. You can’t simply believe that you alone have the answers to what is right and wrong. If you haven’t even made an attempt to understand the one you love… then that makes me pessimistic in behalf of the whole world. I’m not saying you have to be with him, but you can’t decide that without even trying to understand him.”