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I wrote this in a comment the other day, but I thought I would post it for the people in the back.

I think the people who see all of Hudson and Connor’s interactions and see only friendship must not have a very strong sexual impulse or very much sexual experience themselves. Because, come on. If they find each other attractive (they do); if they get each other in a way that allows them to be themselves and feel safe (they do); if they feel cosmically aligned and meant for one another to the extent they consider themselves soulmates (they do); if they had sexual chemistry from the word go (they did); if they have felt free enough to kiss and taste and touch and smell each other’s bodies (they have); if they have been unguarded enough to cry in one another’s arms (they have); if they can’t even tolerate being in one another’s presence without touching and hugging and holding (they can’t); if they have heart eyes and smiles and laughter for one another like they’ve died and gone to heaven (they do); if they’ve claimed one another—‘Mine’ ‘My Love’ ‘My Baby’ ‘My Lover Boy’ ‘My Sunshine’ (they have); if they are shameless about their bodies and their sexual expression (they are); if they jumped right into yet another project where they were explicitly sexual and intimate with one another (they did); if they find in one another the only person on Earth who truly understands what they are going through, supports them, encourages them, and comforts them (they do); if they have inked their connection to one another permanently on their bodies (they have); if they have spent time in the privacy of one another’s homes, repeatedly, at length (they have); if they have declared their love to one another and to the world over and over and over again (they have); if they have ALL OF THESE THINGS (THEY DO!!!) why on god’s green earth wouldn’t they be lovers? That would be insane. Like they-should-see-a-therapist insane. If you don’t think they are having sex, you don’t know sex.

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Again you’re a liar, misssassy56 herself called him a queerbaiter there’s screenshots everywhere along with the 300 replies on her post saying all types of shit about Hudson. Stop pretending you care about him and focus on your precious white boy who can do no wrong

I don’t recall my name being Miss Sassy. Everyone is responsible for their own emotions and responses. That wasn’t, has never been, and never will be, MY response. I love Hudson and Connor both, and never said a single word against either one of them. In fact I have gone to the mat specifically to defend Hudson against racism. So fuck right off with your false white knighting and your derogatory attitude toward Connor too. Nobody loves Connor more than Hudson does, and nobody loves Hudson more than Connor does. Certainly not you. You wouldn’t be pitting him against his soulmate if you did.

Personally, I think Hudson was just being a gentleman in a crowded arena. If it turns out he’s fucking her, I’m not pressed about it. I’m not policing or judging him. Not one little bit.

And I don’t appreciate you mischaracterizing Miss Sassy, when it’s clear all you really want is a scalp.

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It’s not about his relationship and you know it lmao it’s about you all running to accuse him of horrible things like queerbaiting and being like Connor’s ex just because he held his girlfriends hand. He never asked you guys to ship anything and you still blame him for your fantasies that’s what people are mad about

I’m not doing that. None of my mutuals are doing that. Connor loves Hudson, and Hudson loves Connor. We love them both. Nothing has ever changed that. In fact we LOVE that Hudson has loved Connor in a way that his “ex” did not.

Stop erecting strawmen and take your issue elsewhere. It ain’t me.

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im almost convinced youre a troll

What exactly would I be trolling?

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https://www.tumblr.com/slyravenmimic/821258865753587712/i-think-youre-a-delusional-person-and-you-and

The police are out in full force today because we had a K sighting. They’re harassing everyone. Serious question, if they’re so sure about this relationship why do they even come into our spaces? Because I sure as hell don’t enter theirs. No one is getting hurt and Hudson isn’t on Tumblr reading any of this. So let us have our fun for fucks sake. Do you really think this is the first time a famous person has been shipped? Because it’s giving young.

I agree. I hesitated posting that, but sometimes it’s important for people to see what we deal with. I don’t want anyone to feel alone when they get hate coming their way. It’s abundantly clear who the kind and thoughtful people are, and who needs “help”. I’m very happy to be here with our friends.

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I think you’re a delusional person and you and your friends on here should go for some psychiatric help immediately

I think the same about you. I also think you are mean spirited, which we are not. And that you think you are the self-designated thought police, while unironically never having a deep thought in your life. How do you like them apples?

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Where does the idea that k is toxic stem from? I’m mostly on x and even with how intense things are there nobody calls her or the relationship toxic we just wish it didn’t exist, it seems to mostly be a tumblr thing but what do y’all know that we don’t?

Most people recognize love when they see it. I have never seen a display of love from either one of them towards the other, in words or gestures. It goes both ways. If they were palpably and consistently loving towards one another, I would have no reason to want her out of the picture. Their love wouldn’t threaten Hudcon’s love at all. The more the merrier. However, most of us just aren’t seeing it. I want her out of the picture because I want Hudson to be happy, and he doesn’t seem happy with her. It has nothing to do with Connor; he’s happy with Connor. But, I also feel Hudson has his path to follow.

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maybe they're all poly and dating hudson? 🤷‍♀️

Maybe. Maybe that’s not too far from the truth depending on how you want to define it.

This is what I believe: Hudson and Connor are truly, madly, deeply in love with one another. They spend every hour of every day that they can be together, together. They make mad passionate love as much as possible, and when they’re not, they talk and laugh and explore every crazy creative idea they ever had, and dream about the future, marvel at the present and reminisce about the past. They affirm one another, and praise and hug and cuddle; they pour love into one another’s overflowing cups. They bare their souls to one another and feel safe doing so. They never stop thinking about and yearning for the other. They are bonded for life and never doubt it; a future doesn’t exist without the other in it.

However, when they say goodbye, they’re free. Because the fact of the matter is, they spend more time apart than they do together and the rest of their lives isn’t some kind of sterile bubble. Neither of them came to the other as a blank slate. Life outside of their relationship hasn’t been surgically removed. They both have an overwhelming number of work obligations, time commitments, and travel agendas. There are new people to meet, connections to be made, and costars to kiss. Both of them have to cater to their respective management teams, navigate their careers and appease their fans. Scandal and upset has rocked them both, and there are forces conspiring against each of them. They have pasts and the relationships that came with them—in Connor’s case, he has another soulmate to tend to, and in Hudson’s case, a large number of friends and a lingering, confusing, apparently toxic relationship, that has become entwined with his public image.

Connor and Hudson know about what happens, because they tell each other (they are best friends), but they have no interest in controlling or policing what the other one does. It’s not in their nature. But, importantly, what they do outside of their relationship has no bearing on what happens inside of their relationship. As long as THEIR relationship is loving and strong and provides a sanctuary for one another, the other relationships just don’t matter to them. I think what they want for each other is to be happy and to navigate their lives to the best of their abilities, and to do whatever they need to do to that end.

Do I think Bailey has this same loving attitude? Yes. Do I think K does? No. But I do think she and Hudson have an understanding on where they stand, even if we don’t.

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I made the following comment on @misssassy56 post yesterday. I thought I’d bring it forward because of the current meltdown some folks are having regarding K.

I’m a “from the beginning” truther. Maybe it was one of my posts anon saw, but I’m not the only one so I’m not assuming that. I’ve come to my conclusion because of the ongoing and overwhelming evidence Hudson and Connor have fed us from the very beginning, both in real time and retroactively—in photographic evidence, words they’ve told one another, and testimony they’ve shared publicly. Even KNOWING they are intentionally obfuscating, they have obscured the truth just about as successfully as their Oscars outfits hid their nipples. If you’ve ever seen nipples before, you know what to look for.

NOTHING, and I mean nada, zip, zilch, about K has anything to do with that assessment. I don’t care if Hudson and K ever were together sexually or if they still are. I don’t care if she is a paid beard, a good friend or an enemy trying to use him. (I care about his wellbeing, but I’m not talking about that). I don’t care if they ever had a threesome or if they ever wanted to. I don’t care if what Hudson had with K has morphed and changed or if it’s always been the same, whether it is platonic or FWB or open or closed. I don’t care if Hudson is or was cheating, or is honest or is lying. I don’t care if he lied to her or to him or to himself. I don’t care if she is around for personal reasons or professional reasons, or if he is in control or out of it. I don’t care if he is “straight” or gay or bisexual. I don’t care if he knows himself.

I’m curious about all of these things and want to figure them out. I have my own, not entirely popular, opinions. But I don’t need to make sense of K, or Hudson’s sexuality writ large, or his beliefs about monogamy—not one iota—to make sense of Hudson and Connor. Because their relationship is not about her and never has been. THEY have been crystal clear from day one.

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You could call me a Hudcon truther maximalist. My truth is that they fell in love at first sight, and acted on that love, sexually, at first physical opportunity. They were fucking before filming even began, and by the time they were midway through they were open boyfriends to all in proximity. Before their summer clothes were packed away for the season, they were in a committed relationship that they decided to announce to the “world”.

This isn’t my truth because I like the story. In fact, it’s not really MY truth all. It’s the truth that they showed us and told us, and showed and told each other. I’ve lived enough life to know what I’m seeing and hearing. Once you’ve spotted the tiger in the long grass, you can’t unsee it. Only the very foolish would assume the tiger is gone after it’s slinked back into the recesses.

Once someone has shown you who they are, has given you a glimpse into their heart, you can’t unsee them. For those of us who love Hudson and Connor, it’s because we have seen in them something unabashedly lovable. Nothing that anyone who is filled with hate can throw at us will change that. We can see right through those that try, because we have eyes for the only thing that matters: love.

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https://x.com/i/status/2003845844584595743 The little smile..

That is a sweet little smile indeed. What I see is not only the pleasure of Hudson’s weight settling on him, but the happy anticipation of affection. Connor smiles and then raises his cheek for a kiss. That is what his body and emotional regulatory system expects. That expectation is another example of a well worn grove of behavior that the body engages in before the mind catches up. It is only after the kiss doesn’t happen that Connor remembers where he is, lowers his head, and resumes a neutral expression. I don’t think he is disappointed because he understands the context of what is happening, but it does speak to how much joy they derive when they express their love and affection to one another behind closed doors. It always seeps through the cracks.

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I saw your comments about the stupid drama and I agree. It makes me angry that so many people think he must be involved with something that was done TO him at a party where people were drinking and outside (no mirrors). He didn’t even have the pic on his own account? Can we please blame the people who keep trying to tear him down every chance they get?

For those that didn’t read my take, H was the victim then and he is the victim now of these vipers. This was obviously an event where everyone wrote on each other as if they were signing yearbooks. It got a little out of hand and I think it drifted into hazing territory. Somebody ELSE drew that on him without his knowledge, took the picture, and is using it for leverage. Like drawing a dick and balls on someone’s face when they are passed out, but a lot more evil. Apparently he knew a person or two in high school that turned out to be evil. This was done TO him, not by him.

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The story behind Princess Margaret's secret romance goes like this: Television cameras and photographers caught Princess Margaret making a very intimate and affectionate gesture: cleaning a piece of lint off Townsend's uniform. https://www.tumblr.com/sunnypeachyy/811475953896374272?source=share No further questions, Your Honor

Ah, so they are in good company. At least they don’t have a queen to please. Well, that queen.

The subtle acts of familiarity and care the body performs without notifying the mind.

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All I'm saying is: if this is how they act in public — after having savored each other, caressed, kissed, and touched right in front of everyone — what happens behind closed doors? But it is none of our business... No further questions, Your Honor

Hudson: “Even in moments they’re not touching, there’s a yearning to touch. There’s a good period in the show where they’ve kind of broken that barrier, and there’s a little bit more comfort. But the language of physical communication still has a beautiful evolution where it gets more comfortable by the time you reach the later episodes. It changes quite a bit, and I think having a great intimacy coordinator and Jacob there, they were able to help navigate us that language and remind us where it could possibly be harder in moments for Shane and Ilya, and where we can just fully envelop each other with everything we want to do.”

There is a lot to be said that, as actors, they are channeling Shane and Ilya. However, I think the truth of it is that as Shane and Ilya, they were channeling Hudson and Connor. They WANT to envelop each other with everything they want to do. They WANT us to see it. Waiting for the characters to catch up to their own intimacy was another form of edging. I think they will always be ahead.

After a full year of a blooming relationship it will interesting to see what they will envelop each other with in season two.

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I don't care what h meant by "seeing" c or if he said sin c or if he meant to say he saw c on the big screen — at the end of the day he singled out C from his hr family. He mentioned his families and the people he singled out are his mum and dad and then his c. And you know what, that's enough for me. Happy pride month🌈

Happy pride month back atcha!

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am i the only one thinking that interviewer was fishing for hudson to talk about K when she asked “what keeps you grounded during these moments” and then he said the canadian crews and costars he’s worked with keep him grounded 😭😭 like that is not the obvious answer when you have a “long term girlfriend” who you literally just saw a few days ago

You and me both. Not just fishing, she threw out a whole ass net. And came back with “Canadian crews” LOL

Not even a crumb for the friends back home. So much for stability.

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So, has the fandom come to a consensus on what Hudson actually meant if he did say "seein'/seeing" Connor??

Because I'm still seeing jokes about Hudson hallucinated Connor 🙄 which is just silly and goes nowhere

Saying he meant a Facetime call is just weird to me, because who would say "I saw my friend yesterday" if they just Facetimed them???

If they somehow met in person (which i thought everyone agreed was logistically very difficult), then why didn't we get a selfie or something?

If it was because it was a secret meeting on the dl, then why did Hudson so casually mention it mid-sentence in an interview like that? Was he just on autopilot and not thinking?? Because it's kind of a big deal if Connor, the co-lead of the show that swept the CSAs, made the effort to leave filming to fly to Canada to be there, but then didn't appear anywhere near the CSAs and nobody else mentioned or saw him.

I actually think that requires more reaching and weird logic than believing that Hudson said "my HR family, [minus/without] Connor"

And i don't understand why people are getting mad and saying it's cope or anti hudcons. It's not like they're saying "he said he hates connor!!!"

It's literally not erasing the fact he specifically mentioned Connor and noted how important Connor is to him and to HR, despite the fact he couldn't be at CSAs.

I just don't want to get my hopes up that Connor somehow did manage to see him in person, but we didn't know anything about it and there's no photos.

Has fandom come to a consensus? LOL

No, but everyone can come up with their own theory. Here’s mine.

He definitely said “seein’ Connor” in response to what his favorite moments were. He meant that literally.

Turpentine was filming both Sunday and Monday (likely seven days a week), but individual actors are required to take two days off a week per union rules, typically Saturday and Sunday. Connor could have negotiated to work through the weekend in exchange for Monday and Tuesday off. That allows him to leave for Toronto Sunday evening/night.

Somebody took the photo of the whole crew up on stage from the back of the room that Hudson later posted. Could have been Connor and then he dipped.

I think anyone who knew them on set, knows they are together. They were never subtle. I don’t care how friendly you are, if you are kissing necks and holding hands in your down time, you are more than friends. Folks ain’t stupid. They also heard Hudson’s speech and the story he was trying to tell, so if they were asked not to post photos of Connor, they wouldn’t. I think it is odd that no one mentioned Connor but Hudson, but they were keeping it Canada centric, and sometimes you just ignore the elephant in the room.

My personal tangent theory is that Hudson’s Canadian management was contracted through awards season. I believe they were responsible for arranging K’s public appearances (Europe, VF, CSAs) as well as the mentions during the GRWMs. He did what he had to do to get through it, under increasing duress.

After having the situation with K and that particular management come to end, and spending a couple of days with Connor, Hudson emerges a new man.

He declares his love with a heart.

He verbally confirms his emotional support person in life came to support him.

He verbally indicates that he and Connor went on a serene little vacay together in Europe.

He talks about how he and Connor immediately fell for one another and they knew from the beginning how their relationship was going to bloom. And it’s been lovely.