you can explain the material things that could be done to make trans women's lives easier, and someone who thinks misandry is real will show up like "that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, abolishing gender". and then they wont abolish gender
they only ever want to abolish trans women's gender
a lot of people say "abolish" when they mean "re-naturalize." they don't want to make sexgender systems more visible and work collectively to dismantle them. they want to make them invisible and insist there is nothing there to dismantle.
Not entirely related but it reminds me of this story
One day I showed off my girliest outfit around the only person who knows I’m transfem and he was just like “oh yeah that’s nice what’s so special about it” and when I mentioned they were girls’ clothes he just went “well yeah but clothes have no gender” and I literally had to look him dead in the eyes and say “let me have this”
I’m not mad about it but it was EXTREMELY disheartening especially because he thought he was being supportive by taking the femininity out of what I was wearing
"let ME have this" me me me me me
Yeah how selfish of me to *checks notes* have a gender identity,
in fact how dare I make decisions about how to present myself and show them off to my most trusted friend (who has been following my transition closely) at all, I really should have known better
well...yeah? glad we're on the same page














