comic-Michonne: You’re a fucking rock star, Rick Grimes.
tv-Michonne: The famous Rick Grimes.
comic thoughts vvvvv (big spoilers)
So much parallels or similarities with both Richonnes in s9 and them in CW. (laws and parenting..)
idk what to think on issue 191. Im like so burnt out on writers and plot twists and shock deaths. im just SIGH.
I was really into figuring out what the current plot/volume of the story is about. Why they care about Commonwealth and stuff. But it’s just weird to lose Andrea a year ago(?), Dwight in CW, and then maybe Rick too.
Like uh what is going on? I don’t understand comics I guess but I don’t like how this plot with Rick is going.
I feel clueless. Is TWD comics ending soon? Was this arc/volume about Rick’s final time? This comic story is so jumpy and unpredictable. I was idk expecting Rick to be like a God father or someone in the background helping Carl leading a group. Like Rick is a mentor and Carl is his student. Like some super obvious trope and we all figured in (long) time Rick will die (in final issue). I don’t want it to be in one issue or a couple issues like that. Idgi...I want Rick to have this big meaning arc/volume and go out in a big way. Not in some shock value death or something. Idk...Im just surprised but not really since I read fan comments that kept saying issue #200 is coming and one of the issue is when that compendium ends and begins. (huge ass book #3 or #4 I think). So yeah at least I was hinted at.
Idk I kinda don’t care about the comics that much ..but I do! sigh. I have this lil hope and expectations on it. I care about on some things with main characters and family in it and it also kinda relates to the show. Anyway, I’m just like UHHH wait till June to see what will happen. Rick for sure dies or lives. I’m kinda going through my disappointment feels and all. But if Rick really dies then I’m fine and I just stop caring about the comics. Tho ..michonne. Whatever ..story will then be messed up and disappointing. like tv twd rn. Actually feels the same way. Will Rick live? *waits for answers.*
Also if a big character was planned to die in around #200 I really thought it would Michonne. She found her new home and happiness by finding Elodie. She doesn’t have the sword anymore ukno. Unless the ending of TWD comics is coming. But yeah, Rick dying at this time, kinda seems like Michonne is in Rick’s position. Michonne found her daughter and raise her, be with her. It’s just similar character agency(?).
Idk what’s next. I don’t understand there’s so much care and focus on CW and what about ASZ, Hilltop etc. I guess I mean we feel attached to ASZ and others because our survivors live there and fought for it. CW is just some random fancy big place. I do understand why Rick and Michonne and others care a lot about the ways CW do. Because TWD is always in this plot of socially something evolving. CW is part of the story where characters don’t have to be survivors and lose that old world stuff anymore.They can be and do those things like in the old world had. But also they can now make it better too. So yeah , but it’s like wtf some place in Ohio ...what about ASZ? okay...
WE ARE NOT THE WALKING DEAD
Idk I’m tired of writers rn. We’ll see how twd comics will go. sigh...
Here is your very first look at the cover for #TWD #187. STORY: ROBERT KIRKMAN ART: CHARLIE ADLARD, STEFANO GAUDIANO & CLIFF RATHBURN COVER: CHARLIE ADLARD & DAVE STEWART JANUARY 2 “The Road Back.” Can Rick Grimes bring peace to the Commonwealth--or will he tear it apart?
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Wow. I don’t think we’ve gotten a comic Richonne cover art in a long time. It’s for issue 187 and it’s for the new volume. I’m like akjlj;safldsjflkj What does this mean! ok I just hope Michonne still lives. I hope they both live. ok. Looks angsty and pretty.
It’s interesting to see Michonne in her work suit and working as a lawyer. She still doesn’t have her sword. For now or a long time? It’s a different change to her.
Richonne. Idk just them on the cover makes me think something major gonna happen in the story overall. Sure I want romance between them but I think it’s too soon or whatever Kirkman wants. Rick looking away (though the cover arts can be misleading.)....I hope Richonne are not becoming enemies or something. Michonne is really protective over Commonwealth but I think it’s partly about Elodie. Idk I don’t want them go against each other. Let them be together. <3 Let them rule the world.
Parallels. Idk why but learning about s9 and tv-Richonne talking about laws and civilizations is really similar to what’s going on currently in the comics right now. It’s like when they showed Georgie in s8 that was a nod to the (really) recent comic issues about Commonwealth during of those months. In a way, this cover art is focusing on Rick and Michonne in the comics and it reminds me of Richonne. So they’re like focusing on both Richonne(s) on the politics and the laws and govt systems etc. It’s weird..Idk if it’s really a parallel yet because it’s not just Richonne, there’s Pamela, Dwight, Magna talking about the laws and stuff.
It’s interesting about both Michonne(s). They’re both being lawyer-y currently. In the comics, comic-Michonne during what is s9 is at, comic-Michonne wasn’t thinking of laws. She was away pirating, looking for her daughters, and came back from sea, just in time for the Whisperer war to fight. (Carol is what comic-Michonne is doing like before and during a little bit of the time-jump).
All the civilization stuff is kinda to compare against the whisperers and how not so bad Negan is and something comic Rick thought about during AOW and after. It was kinda there but like way after comic Andrea died the plot starts talking about civilization and government systems and stuff.
“The Road Back”--- I was like oh they’re gonna be on the road again like there’s no home anymore. lol But I think they mean Richonne and others go back to ASZ? ..A civil war gonna happen... New World vs Old World? At that time, is Rick leading Commonwealth?
This is such a big moment for Michonne. I’m like OMG. This vol. is such a good story arc for Michonne.
I saved some pics from the Michonne standalone comics (I think, or..). It’s also part of when the survivors found ASZ. It also reminds me of tv-Michonne when she doesn’t miss the sword. Ok ...I added more Michonne pics...so yeah it’s a big Michonne post. :P
Idk why but it also seems like romantic moment in 179. Giving her katana to Rick. It’s like some common romantic / action movie trope.
‘What’s wrong with us?’ ‘to have happiness?’ ‘keep living.’
I kind of think there’s some long arc or parallels, between Rick and Michonne in the comics. It’s cool and I like their relationship and how they support each other.
Issue 175 thoughts and speculations, and tv show’s remixes.
*Michonne *Richonne
> TWD comic spoilers
> TWD tv spoilers
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-OMG! Issue 175 had been out for awhile and I’m just still shocked about Michonne and that she’s on her way finding her daughter(s?). I did not see this coming. It’s like I should have known. Because yeah it was kinda obvious or I just didn’t think it would happen at all. lol
In issue 168, I think, when Michonne decided to lead the Ohio group for Eugene, I was wondering why Michonne have to leave her bff Rick when he’s grieving over Andrea(wife) and alone in ASZ. I thought this was some plot that was setting up for Rick and Negan to parallel or get Rick downward spiral or something. I thought maybe Michonne didn’t want to be around Rick like maybe she have feelings for him. Idk or Michonne wants change, something new. But instead, Rick kinda adopts Mikey. He’s doing alright rn. I guess that’s ..also.. the point Kirkman wanted on Rick’s side of the story. We’ll see. My main point is that the reason why Michonne went to Ohio wasn’t all about making Rick alone (Jesus/Aaron at Hilltop. Carl at Hilltop). Kirkman wanted Michonne to leave ASZ to get to the story plot of her finding her missing daughter(s)! I did not see that coming. I think others thought of that but I was like ehh Michonne didn’t find them in Oceanside so? She grieve it out and was like feeling better lately. So yeah, now she gets see her Elodie soon and perhaps Colette!
-So this issue was such a big deal for Michonne. OMG Ok. Michonne is my fave in the comics. I don’t really trust Kirkman and sometimes doubt his writing, but I’m surprised he did this...or not. I mean I feel like this is what it suppose to happen. Make Michonne a mother again. I think her character journey is all about not finding her daughters and dealing with that pain, slowly letting it go and being more open with her past lovers, being close with the Grimes boys, being more human. And now she’s finally getting answers and closure to what happened to her daughters and ex-husband. She may even be a mom again to Elodie. This moment is something that I wanted before Kirkman would someday decides to finish the comic book or kill off Michonne. This was what I want and hope for her and her character’s journey, and so I’m like idc what else happens. I got what I wanted. (unless Kirkman screws up something else or I want more stuff. whatever. no can trust writers. lol)
-I am starting to think around issue 175 and on, is the beginning of the end. It seems like everyone’s getting closure or something. Maybe the end is not coming but everyone’s getting new chapters in their journey. Eugene and Siddiq learned the truth of Rosita, Jesus loves Aaron & wants to stay with him, Negan is changed, Maggie got closure, Michonne will find her daughter or what happened. idk about other characters. Grimes boys are changing..Rick is a widower and adopts Mikey?,Carl is starting to lead, Dwight wants to lead?..
-Even communities are changing. They’re all rebuilt from the Whisperer War but there’s this a whole new community, Commonwealth that is really protected, strong and huge. Idk if they’re safe or the good guys, but Kirkman including Elodie makes us fans interested in the community! I really wonder what will happen next with the Commonwealth in OH and other communities in VA. Will the main characters leave Hilltop, Sanctuary, ASZ, Kingdom? Will Commonwealth and other communities become like an east coast territory being led by a higher rank group or person? Will our main characters even want to live in Commonwealth? idk I mean like Rick would he even want to go there ...maybe he would want to stay at ASZ where Andrea is buried at. Anyways, it’s gonna be interesting to know what will happen.
-There could be other potential drama to it with Elodie and Michonne, and the communities/people. Like what if Michonne is all excited about finding her daughter and everything’s great but she’s like I want to go back home. Elodie be like why? What is home to you? Then Michonne realizes she got another family back in home, VA. Riiiiiiiick. ok lol idk. Maybe the Ohio traveling group can’t leave Commonwealth or something. Maybe there will some civil war with all the communities against Commonwealth, or Rick or Carl will be president some day(of the east coast..like Falling Skies show). IDK i just want Mikey and Elodie to meet and be like some crossover ship-name thing with Stranger Things. El and Mike.
It’s crazy how in issue 175, comic-Michonne found her daughter(s) (Jan.) after in the show where tv-Michonne’s (and Rick) will lose her second son, Carl(Dec.). It was just all emotional to think of those two stories. It’s also reminds me of this speculation or theory that I did long ago that seems like ..I was right or will happen or something like that. :P
My old-ish theory of the comics (issue 169, before s8 happened) and TV show. My theory or speculations are about tv-Richonne and comic-Richonne. #twd remix theories I was trying to think of ways on how tv-Michonne will still live on after comic-Andrea died. Like how tv-Michonne still be Rick’s wife and perhaps adapt to comic-Michonne as well. *If only the tv writers wanted Michonne to live on and NOT take comic-Andrea’s death too. If Rick will not lose both Carl AND Michonne. So, future stories are gonna be hard to remix or they will be a couple. My point is, my theories of tv-Richonne/comic-Richonne might not even work out and it’s kinda impossible. I’m not sure about comic-Richonne becoming a couple. Though they’re one of the leading characters and best friends.
But......one of theories? right now is that the TWD show writers killed off tv-Carl like how comic-Andrea did, so that tv-Michonne can live. And, since Michonne will lose another son, maybe Michonne will do what comic-Michonne did in future stories based in the comics; leave ASZ(pirating or Ohio traveling trip) to grieve or something else.
Here’s a bit of my old post of my old theory....
* Instead of miscarriage, it’s death of Carl. *Carl’s death = Negan redemption.
So far I got an idea that popped in my head and it’s instead of Michonne dying based on comic Andrea’s death, maybe Michonne would have a miscarriage or they lost their child from walkers/enemies. So it’s all angsty and tension between Rick and Michonne. It’s hard for parents to deal with their death of their child. idk why I thought of this :( …overthinking is bad (ok I’m kinda thinking Fringe’s final season with Peter and Olivia dealing with their issues since their daughter went missing). …Oh I know..I kinda was thinking of something that Rick and Negan could bond or whatever Kirkman have in mind later on in the comics. In the comics, they lost their wives recently-ish. I think Kirkman wants Rick and Negan to bond or something really in common in the story right now.
*Michonne left because she wants to. Later, Kirkman had in mind to have Michonne finding her daughter(s).
I am also thinking of comic michonne’s storyline. Right now, comic Michonne left with a group to check out Ohio/another community(ies). She said she has to go. We don’t know why, it could be just Kirkman wanting Rick to be alone and go crazy…
*more speculations
….So with that thought, Michonne’s leaving Rick and my thought of how tv show adapting it with loss of their child, it’s like tv-Michonne needs a break and think about her life and grieve her own way and stuff and same with Rick. And then…Michonne comes back home, ASZ, and Richonne are able to move on and still be in a loving marriage. (And like… comic-Richonne happens after Michonne comes back from the Ohio trip.)
I guess I was thinking of this because of issue 169. Andrea died and I think it develops to another plot with Rick and Negan. Then Michonne left. Like how does tv show do it without tv-Richonne being over. I know there’s many other scenarios. Like maybe tv-Michonne wouldn’t go to Ohio.
So, I guess it’s like I’m saying Michonne will leave ASZ for awhile to do the pirate arc or Ohio trip or anything. But!.... I think the whole “Michonne leaving ASZ” part doesn’t matter or it’s a need in the story. Because, Carl died during All Out War and we already know Oceanside from Tara, Carol being away in that house, and Siddiq. So, I think there would be other remixes. Like someone else will take comic-Michonne’s part of going to Ohio or to the sea(Morgan?). Plus, s8B and on will be more different than the comics. Anything could happen in the show. It’s just a theory.
I feel like Idk anymore. lol Some stories are already remixed and happening, so some stories aren’t needed. ..Now that comic-Michonne will most likely see and be around Elodie, Idk how TV show will do it. Maybe things will make sense later on when we get more comic-Rick story and other stories, later.
I don’t think tv-Michonne will find Andre again. We’ve been told Andre is dead. Unless Michonne is also totally surprised like us if we see see Andre alive and found again.
It’s also doesn’t quite be the same as comic-Michonne’s story. I think this is so comic-Michonne’s thing…like ever since. I think for her not knowing where her daughters are and if they’re alive, was what made her who she was/is since she was introduced in the comics. Comic-Michonne is like tv-Michonne in s3 but for a long time. I don’t think any TV character is that way, imo. Tv-Michonne and Carol isn’t like her. I’m saying how comic-Michonne found out about her daughter and the emotional impact of it, wouldn’t be the same in the show, imo. So I don’t think this plot will happen..to Michonne or about Andre.
It can be done similarly, I guess. Like Michonne can’t find Judith for 3 years and Richonne split or something. Like Carol adopting Henry but can’t find him for 3 years. Oh, it’s like repeated misery for the characters. I feel like that’s too much for those characters. Like Michonne just lost Carl, had a child with Rick or Judith went missing in short time. That’s just so sad. Idk..so I think it’s better if a new character was introduced and was always grieving their missing child or someone. Like (for a couple) Desmond reuniting with Penny from tv show Lost.
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So yeah so much is happening for the comics and the show in 2018. Speculating is crazy and fun to do ..and confusing. overthinking is bad. I think the show will be even more different than the comics now because of tv-Carl’s death and comic-Elodie’s return. (and with Kang showrunning in s9) Also, who knows how long the show will be on air.
Carol and Henry (Kingdom group) relationship and Rick grieving over Carl’s death, is reminding me of the comics right now (after ww/nwo). It’s odd because the show is behind storywise from the comics.
Carol and Henry is kinda reminding me of comic-Rick and Carl but, also reminding me of comic-Michonne and her daughter plot right now-a new parent/child relationship into the story. That’s all. But if Henry becomes important in the story and Carol becomes his guardian.
And with Rick, he’s grieving like comic-Rick over comic-Andrea. Both Ricks are grieving over a Grimes. They also seem like alone and Carl isn’t there but (..comic-Carl is at the Hilltop.) So I guess Judith is like comic-Mikey. Anyways...I’m glad tv-Rick have tv-Michonne with him right now.
Kirkman (or other comic guy) defended and loves the pairings of Rick and Michonne.
Idk what to think on comic-Richonne. I’m kinda surprised. Like maybe there is a chance for them to have romance. But, maybe Kirkman is just defending his characters and tv-Richonne. I don’t trust Kirkman that much.
Also, I think it’s silly to hate on tv-Richonne because of the comics. TV and comics are different. You have to separate those two stories. tv-Richonne are following comic-Andrea and Rick as well and have the build up as comic-Richonne. And, comic-Richonne are bffs and they can become a couple if developed well. So ..whatever.