#anti innercircle

[achaotichuman]

I think we can all agree the only bad thing anyone in this entire godforsaken series has done is trust the Inner Circle with literally anything at all. They could breathe and something would go horribly fucking wrong.

[zealousballoonfox]

Nesta and Eris

I don’t understand for the life of me why Nesta and Assian (Cassian) was endgame like we could have had Nesta and Eris Enemies to lovers, understanding their trauma and them both growing and evolving together and taking down the monarchy of the Autumn throne and rebuilding it and the tension between them would be immaculate and the understanding that they would have for one another. And the growth and character building that could be done from both of them being the underdogs and Nesta keeping her powers and Eris teaching her how to utilize them and then them having this romantic affection that will be so wholesome and Nesta the queen that she is getting a crown. And them both talking smack about the night court and Nesta spreading her wings and not getting Stockholm syndrome like in the night court because of those toxic bitches. Like seriously the only thing Assian sees her for is a mate and her body and nothing else and he got mad when she rejected him like every other toxic ass and because she denied having sex with him. And Nesta’s only character growth was that she was magically cured of depression and PTSD by sucking Assian’s dick. And Eris said her potential is wasted in the night court and he was right. 

[vidalinav]

Look, if SJM wanted me to believe that the intention of the intervention was a benevolent choice on behalf of the IC and her sisters, because they care about her and they were worried, then, and I cannot stress this enough, she should have written it that way. 

People try to argue this all the time, you know, and whatever--you have your opinions, but I am not convinced. You can’t tell me that it was necessary and then have Nesta have no withdrawal symptoms, no back and forth, no deep temptation, some great inner turmoil of an addict. If she doesn’t have any of this than the IC and Feyre and Elain look bad, because they took agency away without the reader contextually having known that they tried anything else that was meaningful. 

You can’t tell me that they care for her and then show me quite a few scenes where they outright say they don’t or don’t say anything at all. Caring has to be shown not said, where are the scenes where I am shown patience, empathy, compassion? If there is none, than the IC and Feyre and Elain look bad. Feyre and Elain worse because they are her sisters and therefore obligated. The entirety of the Feyre vs. Sister’s conflict is based on obligation. Feyre doesn’t look as bad because we know that conflict with Nesta, and we also know from acofas and mentions in acosf that she has tried at least more than Elain, though not well or effortful--inviting her to parties or to decorate is not effortful. It makes Elain look tremendously unsupportive, because we know that she does nothing. This is something I wrote about in a long analysis but never posted. Maybe one day.  

You also cannot tell me this is a healing arc, but then frame the situation that Nesta’s healing is not more important than taking accountability. Someone’s second hand suffering is not more important the person who suffers, especially in their own POV. You can have both at the same time, but you can’t fix the effects without evaluating and accepting the cause. That’s basic. 

The way I see it is that people keep trying to argue this blank grey area that was in between acofas and acosf--that “oh Nesta must have been difficult, if it resulted in this. It must have been warranted and if it was then the IC was justified because she was suffering.” It doesn’t matter. You have no proof. You have only what has happened in acofas, and what was briefly mentioned in acosf of what happened in between. The argument at the barge. The blanket statement of pushing people away, drinking, sleeping around. A moment with Elain, I believe, and the fact that Feyre asked her to decorate and gave her a tour of the house. But that’s it. Those are cause for concern but not enough for an intervention. 

What is obvious is that after the intervention, Nesta doesn’t have withdrawal symptoms and only thinks about drinking once. She starts a sexual relationship easy and that is not at all criticized. She is stuck in a house she can’t easily leave, but she does her duties. She is used many times, a few of those times being argued by her as not wanting to do it. We have blatant scenes of characters saying that they will use her no matter what it takes. We have very little scenes with the others that are not in direct relation to her power/skill of dance and games and using that power. 

So and I can conclude that if SJM wanted me to see likable, benevolent characters, I should have seen them. If she wanted me to see nice familial relationships being built, I should have seen them. If I don’t see these things in the book that I am reading, currently on the page, they don’t exist. It is not some people in the fandom reading things a certain way because they have biases, it’s that if it doesn’t convince people, ***it wasn’t convincing.***