#anti-kitsowitz

[violetfaust]

Wow.

Reading that Vanity Fair expose on how the Lost writers' room was exceedingly toxic, racist, and sexist sure shines a light on Kitsowitz and how they ran OUAT.

[grace52373]

Not really in defense, just more explaining things

I don’t speak for the fandom, let’s get that cleared up. I can only speak on what I have seen. I would never tell anybody not to block anything they might not like, find offensive, etc on their blogs. I have been blocked by a few people, I am not sure why but I don’t question it. My one thing on my blog is that my followers have a safe space to talk, debate, and find something to enjoy. My only rule is you must tag that way no one sees something they shouldn’t. For instance, I am pretty much anti-cs and cs bad apple fans but in respect to my followers who aren’t, I tag and I encourage other followers to tag as well. If you see something you shouldn’t and it appears untagged, feel free to come into my inbox and ask me even if anonymous. That said, don’t assume that because it is on my blog that I 100% agree with every poster. I just believe in free speech and I think that everyone, whether I agree or not, has a right to express their opinions freely as long as they are not a porn blog, or a violent hate blog. 

I am a fan of many different movies and shows and I am conservative and religious. I don’t care if you disagree with me on issues or agree with me, I just want to have a blog that is open to all kinds of opinions but you must tag or I will nag you about it or tag it for you! LOL! My followers and some of the people I follow can attest to the nagging part!

We all come from different backgrounds and share different opinions. What may not bother me, may bother you and vice versa. That is why I insist on tagging and please if you find something untagged that disturbs you, give me a chance to fix that before blocking but if blocking makes you feel better, than do it. 

One of the reasons I am addressing this is not only because of my real life views on politics and religion but for my fandom views on Rumbelle.

I have followers who see Rumple as abusive and Belle as abusive. I sometimes reblogged if something is said that I agree with, or I will like because even if I disagree, I support their right to an opinion and I won’t give them hell for it. If they ask for an opinion, I will give it. I have learned from my rookie tumblr mistakes and am trying to do better. 

My views on Rumbelle are this: i love them. From the moment the characters interacted on screen I thought these two are really bringing my favorite fairy tale to life and putting an even better, more realistic spin on it. I acknowledge that they have faults and I acknowledge that this is the writers doing and I refuse to hate a character they are deliberately writing oc! Rumple and Belle were oc for the first half of season 6 and they aren’t the only ones. Rumple and Belle are both guilty imo of unhealthy bordering on abusive behavior towards each other. Rumple locking her up on the boat, and his putting a tracking device on her was indicative of real life abuse and now before my pro Rumple fans jump down my throat, i realize that his actions were bad but do not make him abusive overall. He never treated Belle like that before and he always, always respected her autonomy. I believe Belle’s fears from her issues with Rumple, her being unsure of who to trust and her manipulation by the Black fairy through her son pushed her over the edge. She went into overprotective mommy zone without thinking of the consequences or thinking that she may be overreacting and really has no proof that Rumple will hurt the baby. I think it pushed him over the edge because he lost a baby, his new baby hates him and is separating him from his love and his wife is working with his enemies against him and threatening to run away with their son and he will never see them again, ergo, Rumple’s pain over Bae is being revisited and is pushing him to try to stop her from taking their son. I understand why both are reacting the way they are even if I don’t agree with it and want to say. sit down and talk already!

Belle on the other hand is no Milah 2.0! her language towards Rumple is similiar and is bordering on abusive. How do I know this? Because of what my followers who have been abused and because of what my cousin has told me. My cousin and some of my followers were abused and they heard in Belle’s lines, the same things their abusers said. I think the Milah comparisons are because like Milah, Belle called him a coward because she said his fear made him weak or too weak to be good. That is not something a person going through real life struggles, addictions, or illnesses needs to hear and I want to slap Adam and Eddie for including this line and using a well beloved and compassionate character to do it. if Hook said it or Regina, it would be dismissed but because Belle said it, people were hurt. The people I saw calling Belle abusive were not women haters in the least, they were abuse survivors who saw a character they love say things their abusers said. Disagree with them all you want but please don’t judge them so harshly. Her language towards Rumple and her begging him to spare his enemies including the one who killed his son along with having said enemies threaten to use Rumple’s dagger on him, and wanting to kill him while she stand by and does nothing, and her use of the dagger against him soured me on Belle as much as what Rumple did soured me on him too. I know Belle’s treatment of Rumple was coming from a place of distrust and deep betrayal. Even though I don’t agree with her throwing him out of town with just the clothes on his back, I understood her pain, I understood both their pain and my heart broke for both of them.

I can never forgive Adam and Eddie for doing this to my favorite couple, for making me a non shipper for awhile and for hurting their fans. i cannot forgive them for doing this and not making the time to fix it. Rumbelle needed real conversations! Belle needed to know what lengths including tlk that Rumple did to wake her. Both needed to apologize and talk to each other but no, we continue to get meaningless CS and Hook scenes to the exclusion of all else. The characters had no time to react or process or be angry and that was a disservice to them and the show and the fans. 

Bottom line, I won’t judge you for thinking Rumple or Belle acted abusively in seasons 4-6 even if I don’t agree with it as long as you tag it. I will fight those who say Rumple was an abusive spouse to Milah or that Belle was an abused wife or about Rumple choosing power over Belle because it never happened! To me there is a difference over unhealthy, toxic, reactions vs real abusive situations. Rumbelle became toxic bordering on abusive in season 6 but they corrected it and made strides to be healthier. real abusive relationships rarely if ever improve or become healthy. Maybe instead of abusive we can use unhealthy instead?

[worryinglyinnocent]

Why are you down in the dumps about OUAT?

I just feel like everything I read about it seems to be bringing us further and further from a happy ending for rumbelle, and sometimes I just wonder why I bother putting so much emotional investment into a couple that the showrunners obviously don’t give a flying fuck about. 

[violetfaust]

GOD I want to see Kitsowitz’s new Disney/fairy tale show crash and BURN. I want it to be clear to the entire world that the only reason OUAT survived as long as it did was a) incredible casting and acting, and b) being built on Damon Lindelof’s foundation.

[violetfaust]

Hey, Disney?

Setting aside the stupidity of trusting Kitsowitz with any of your properties again after they ran OUAT into the ground (these are the guys who made people tune out from live-action Frozen, for Pete’s sake), how in the name of all that’s good do you plan a BATB prequel and say, “Let’s do it about Gaston and LeFou” when Lumiere and Cogsworth are RIGHT THERE??

[violetfaust]

Do you remember if there was a good twist after Brigitte Hales came to Once Upon a Time? She thinks she is good at twists forums[.]primetimer[.]com/topic/3828-the-storybrooke-daily-mirror-ouat-in-the-media-cons-and-other-real-life-encounters/?do=findComment&comment=5816688

Snicker.

Well, let’s think about it. S5 was her first, if I recall, and though she was a very junior staff member then, that season served up:

1. The brilliant twist of Killy being the Dark One and the sum total of Dark Emma’s motivation

2. The stupendous shocker of Rumple taking back the DO curse because “that’s the man I am.”

3. The stunner of leading us to believe that Killy would stay dead only to permanently kill ROBIN instead!

4. And finally, the magnificent topper that absolutely no one could have predicted: a literal deus ex machina employed to resurrect Killykins in the year of our lord 2016.

But wait! Things got even better in S6. We had such staggering twists of heartbreaking genius as:

1. Rumple getting it on with the Evil Queen and Belle trying to kidnap their child from him.

2. Emma’s life being threatened—by Rumbelle’s SORASed son.

3. Killy murdering charming’s dad—and not having to pay a moment of consequence.

4. And the breathtaking shocker of Emma’s ugly ass wedding dress.

Wow, I can’t WAIT for Brigitte to run her own show.

[violetfaust]

I can’t wait till Sunday is over and I can return to my usual blogging over the lousy writing on just ONE dead show.

[violetfaust]

So to actually fully experience the “fun” of the OUAT ep “Changelings”

@sieben9

@idesignedthefjords

...You guys REALLY have to see the absolutely brilliant and wonderful promo that Rumblr got to enjoy for TWO FULL WEEKS in advance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJytyT4j2Ao

My very super favorite part of this astonishingly accurate preview  was the emphasis that Rumple wanted “revenge.” Like that was ANY part of the already ludicrous so-called story of 6A. But hey, a certain pirate needed propping... (as he always, always did).