Elucien/Gwynriel is not happening
*these are not in order and I address other things I’ve seen said that annoy me*
(Might be repetitive but it took me days and I just want it posted, I’m not proof reading. Will it have a part 2? Maybe) this is also all over the place because as soon as I had a thought, or saw something I went to my drafts and added that point.
-obviously when Acotar as a whole is still new and elucien are newly mated Sarah’s gunna play them up, the same way she did with Feyre and Tamlin. Stop taking old interviews and Facebook posts as confirmation. Do you genuinely think if she never wanted elucien to happen she would admit that? Obviously she’s not gunna spoil.
-Charming irreverence is a thing, it has a definition. It means to light heartedly/teasingly or playfully disobey rules/authority. Which Gwyn does, she has charming irreverence. It has nothing to do with Azriel and it’s not him finding her charming.
-“you’re my mate” It doesn’t matter if it was shock or whatever. Sarah would not write the start of one of her endgames like that.
-Spark/glow: those are not mate language. Sarah never made them mate language. YOU DID! Spark and glow have been used for multiple reasons but the most often one is magic/powers. Which is whats happening in the bonus chapter.
-MMC never have interest in anyone other than the FMC (dead lovers don’t count) in Sarah’s books. Not only did Sarah make sure to point out Azriel is over Mor because of his feelings for Elain, she had to make sure it was clear the next MMC was over someone he’s been into for 500 years. Meanwhile Lucien had increased interest in Vassa.
-secret lovely beauty was about the necklace, the necklace that represents Elain. There’s multiple reasons it could have been used at the end of the chapter, none of them romantic for gwynriel. Let’s use our brains. I also personally think Sarah might have just used it to close out the chapter without it being for any reason.
-Multiple times Lucien has been made out to be a joke. Feyre painting him (and Tamlin) as pigs, Rhys making him kneel. It’s mentioned multiple times he weak/gets winded. This is not all of it either. It’s Bern mentioned each bat boy could kill him with I problem.
-It was one ONE dagger lesson, and no where was it confirmed Azriel and Gwyn were alone. In fact the bonus chapter seems to be the first time they were. Also stop romanizing the rescue. Sarah definitely had Gwyn talk about how Mor was the one to take care of her in order to stop it being romanized but…. Lack of reading comprehension I guess… And Gwyn glancing at Azriel repeatedly the first day WAS BECAUSE HE REMINDS HER!!!!! The smile he gave her was a polite greeting. The desperation to grasp onto anything is crazy.
-Elain does not want Lucien. She said it, she showed it, other characters said and mentioned it and noticed it. SARAH said it and that he’s part of her trauma and someone who betrayed them.
-while I’m going on and debunking those 2 nonexistent ships I’m gonna debunk a couple of other things as well. Pleasure halls are clubs. Rita’s, which the inner circle hang out at, including Azriel is a pleasure hall. That’s why Bryce asked him if he’s a club rat. He’s not hooking up with anyone. I’m BEGGING you guys to actually read.
-Azriel watching Gwyn is admiration and encouragement is what a trainer does when watching a trainee work….
- Not everything is foreshadowing. It being brought up how then Autumn court fuck means nothing for elucien because SHE DOES NOT WANT HIM!
-Steph does not know anything! She’s said that multiple times…how are you gunna pay attention to her shipping Gwynriel, which by the way she said she ships it because of dynamic (most FANON) ships are shipped that way but ignore everything else that’s said. She even had to say not everything is romantic which was definitely about Gwynriel and she never talked about them again. Not only that but when Gwyn/Gwynriel was brought up Sarah would be annoyed/confused.
-when asked by Steph in a live after Silver Flames if we’ve met Elain’s official love interest Sarah said yes but her reaction showed it was not Lucien.
- “Sarah always has her couples happy together in the end” Gwynriels not a couple, it’s fanon. Elucien isn’t set up to be a couple. Elriel is not an obstacle for elucien, the elucien bond is obstacle for elriel. Elriel is the couple getting happily ever after in the end.
-the mistake/regret thing used for elriel is common. It was used for nessian and Rowaelin. It’s a common troupe in romances in general.
-you can claim otherwise all you want, azriel figuring out Elain’s a seer when Lucien couldn’t does mean something and is important.
-I started writing all of this yesterday (05/29) the day that the Gwynriels and eluciens were fighting about whether it’s Azriels book or Elain’s… surprise, it’s both
-Pinterest. The Pinterest go! Sarah used it for inspiration!!!! Thanatos is god of death which represents Azriel more than anything. Sarah did not use that image as “elucien”.
-I feel like people (some people) are WAY too mad at Rhys for the bonus chapter. The man had shit going on.
-Take every single one of Azriels reactions to/about Gwyn in the bonus chapter and compare it to Nestas in the main book. ITS THE SAME!
-I don’t care that it has not been officially confirmed, Gwyn is a light singer and she was involved in the bonus chapter to confirm it after the hints in the main book.
-Elain does not need to give the bond/lucien a try. We know by now because it’s been shown over and over that she’s uncomfortable. I do think Sarah will make them friends but there’s never going to be anything even slightly romantic.
-the womb theory…. Disgusting just disgusting. Gwyns bones were mentioned because of training, it LITERALLY says so in the book. But like everything else you guys make up your own shit. Also no one thought about it until silver flames because that’s when it got brought up, but Feyre and Nesta technically couldn’t have Rhys and Cassians kids until than but they were still TRUE mates.
-there is nothing, NOTHING shippable about elucien. Feysand was shippable without the bond. So was nessian. Elucien has nothing even with the bond.
-Azriel saved Gwyn from being SA’d stop romanticizing that!!!!!
-Bryaxis is NOT inside Elain
- Elain hasn’t rejected the bond yet because common sense tells you It WOULD happen in her book. Also the way Nesta was needed to be solved first that’s why she got her story first.
- Sarah is obsessed with her 3’s!!! Enough said
-eluciens/Gwynriels don’t know shit. They claim every year they know something, don’t fall for it