Do you think Emma frost and colossus would make an interesting couple? I was just rereading astonshing x men and there where a few scenes where she was clearly ogling him and commenting on how handsome and muscular he is. Id imagine it would be an opposites attract thing.
Hello!
I do think they’d be an interesting couple - very opposites attract as you mentioned! I’m not sure how feasible it would be long term, just because Emma Frost is a very conniving sort, and Piotr really doesn’t seem the type to vibe with that, but I do think that there would be some very interesting chemistry. @osmiumamygdala what do you think?
What's your favourite portrayal of Colossus, in terms of how he's drawn i mean? For me its how he's drawn in x men origins Colossus and astonishing x men. The way he's drawn is how i default when i picture him in my head.
Some of my favorite styles for him are Adi Granov, Alex Ross, and Rick Leonardi:
As for my default image of him, it's gotta be between Leonardi up there, Jim Lee:
Dave Cockrum:
And if I'm being honest, the styles used in the Krakoa era/X-Force series are getting there, too.
Do you think Colossus was really into wrestling/sambo growing up as a boy? For me its as good an explanation as any as why to why Piotr was already a good fighter and really muscular when he joined the x men despite being a civilian teenage boy.
I like the idea of Piotr being interested in wrestling! I especially like it in conjunction with the concept of Mikhail being the one to introduce it to him and the two of them rough housing the way brothers tend to.
Imagine, before Piotr started getting big, Mikhail swooping in on him to put him in a hold.
Do you think when the MCU adapt the X men and hopefully adapt Colossus theyll change Piotr nationality from Russian to Ukranian or Polish or just a generic Eastern Europe background to avoid controversary?
Forgive me in advance because I am going to vomit out a deluge of my thoughts and feelings on this matter, and (as is characteristic of me) it is going to run long.
Short answer? Do I think the MCU might pull something like that? This is Hollywood we're talking about, so I wouldn't be surprised. Optimistically, I hope for better.
Long answer: I would hope with the very building blocks of my person and psyche that one would not attempt that goofiness.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'll repeat it verbatim until I'm exhausted and have to scrawl it out in dirt because I choose this battle: Colossus, as a character, was conceived during the Cold War. People didn't like Russia then, very justifiably. There were MANY, MANY horrible things the Soviet Union was responsible for at that time. Prejudices all around were ASTRONOMICAL. And here was Colossus, a heroic Russian character, there to remind you, "hey! These people are still people! Even when we're scared! Even when tensions are high! Even when groups are enacting horrible acts! Individuals still exist, and they are people!" This general attitude is integral to the themes of the comics Colossus was brought into. I think anyone could see how changing Piotr's background because of "controversy" is a kick to the teeth and backasswards with this in mind.
Colossus' Russian home and heritage are important to him and fit within the general overarching ideas of the X-Men. Where Piotr comes from informs us of his perception, things he might have seen or done, and ideas he might have. Throughout the comics, there are multiple points where the differences between him and his peers are observed. It's also obvious he's been exposed to propaganda in his home country, and we see how his teammates handle or fail to handle it. Not to mention, he is shown in direct opposition to Russia and its ideals occasionally, and he also faced prejudice and pushback for his nationality in America concurrently.
AT THE SAME TIME-- While all of the above is true, you don't have to focus on Piotr's country of origin to make a compelling story or character arc with him. It's a PART of him, like his mutation, his art, his farming, his being a brother. No story with Colossus needs to center on (or limit itself to) just one specific facet of his personality. He could incidentally be Russian, as it were (like Deadpool's Colossus).
Leading to; the MCU will probably not have Colossus as a very integral character. In cases like this, historically, the MCU might choose to sand away the uncomfortable parts of a character or make edits to them to ensure they are more palatable/better fit to the story at hand. For this reason, he very well could still be Russian (there ARE Russian characters in the MCU already, after all, I wouldn't see the point in making a fuss of it now), or they could change him for "simplicty's" sake. They might not even give it that much thought.
For a final addition: I would HOPE the minds behind the MCU have the sense to understand that Russia is not interchangeable with Ukraine or Poland and vice versa. Because... those places are not the same. At all.
Do you ever find it odd that Piotr one of the most shy, sensitive and innocent character in marvel wears one of the most revealing and skimpy costume of any male character in all of comics? I really wish there was a canon explanation of what exactly possessed the professor to design and craft an outfit like that for a teenage boy.
Oh it is absolutely mind boggling. Things in those early comic days weren't exactly air-tight, and you'd have questionable things bubble up from time to time, but moving past that...
Imagine being saved from a catastrophe by this gigantic metal adonis, his got his ass Ziploc packaged in red booty shorts and he's got the red knee high boots. He's got maybe a thread of fabric around his chest at this point.
And he bends down and talks to you in the quietest voice on the PLANET about art or something?? Like??
I know, logically, in my mind, that the costume is based off of a circus strongman outfit, but PETEY PUREHEART here is just lugging around his fat fucking silver hams on display like it ain't nothing!?
THIS IS THE DUDE WHO GETS FLUSTERED AT BEING CALLED "SWEETIE!"
It's another wild dichotomy. Naive, innocent, but you WILL see his ass, Lord help you!
We know he loves his first costume, because he was grinning ear to ear like a dope when he put it on. Every outfit he's worn since has drawn inspiration from that first one. He pokes fun at it lovingly every now and then, especially the shoulder pads.
And his sister also wears skimpy outfits, which Piotr does not bat an eye at! Wild!
Is it because the artists want to slip this metal dude into something revealing? Oh, no doubt, but the possible reasoning behind it is so fun to poke at.
I sure can try and post some panels here! There's a lot to pick from-- comics include quite a bit of kidnapping and bondage, always have, always will!-- so this is just some of them! Also, I want to take this moment to recommend @marvelheroperil ! There's a whole collection of panels like these over in that direction, and they update pretty frequently!
Which actor do think would be the best choice to play Colossus? For me its Florian Munteanu, the guy who played dragos son in creed 2, he meets most of the criteria. Hes extremely tall and muscular, hes eastern european, his character was rather sensitive under a stoic, grim exterior which is befitting.
Florian is one of a handful I've felt strongly for Colossus, for all of the reasons you've listed!
Another is Henry Cavill, mostly for looks.
And of course, I was fond of Stefan Kapičić for his voice in Deadpool. And you know what? I think he'd make a pretty good face for him, too, if he really wanted.