you reblogging the "this is what every forcemasc post" got me thinkin.
So "forcemasc" is the mirror of "forcefem" as seen by the tumblr trans community. The type of acceptance shown by trans women to other trans women and giving you what you always secretly wanted. Now, we trans women came up with this as an inversion of what forcefem is in larger society, the humiliation of a man being made lesser than himself. So I was thinking whats the inversion of "forcemasc" into actual society? And the only thing I can think of is violence and "male socialization." Violence is how male supremacy is upheld and enforced. If someone hears your a tranny they will beat it out of you, saywyour just a faggot, and if you say your gay they'll try and beat the fag out of you. Maybe there is space to try and reclaim this as a forcemasc kink, but what we just get instead is forcefem but in blue flavor. I think it maybe has something to do with that would have to have them confronting "wanting" to some degree "male socialization," but they cant square that ideological circle so we get water down painted over forcefem instead
I have two main thoughts as to why forcemasc just fundamentally doesn't work the same was as forcefem.
"Being a man" is the default good thing to be in society.
One of the biggest tools involved in male socialization/male bonding/being "one of the guys" is misogyny.
One of the easiest ways to signal to a group of men that you're "one of them" is picking a woman (any woman, really) and going "damn, she's a crazy bitch. amirite?" It's both a bonding ritual and a reinforcement of the status quo.
Everything in a cishetero patriarchal society is forcemasc. If you aren't a "real man" you're punished, no matter what. Cis women and all trans people are punished (but punished differently) for not having the good sense to be born "real men". But aspiring to be a man is still something that can be seen as admirable. Behaving misogynistically has real material benefits, regardless of your gendered positionality.
But being a trans woman, i.e. being born into the class of "real men" and radically rejecting that by desiring to be and taking action to shape yourself into something perceived as "lesser" is an ultimate transgression.
You're correct in identifying the roots of forcefem as a kink in degradation and humiliation. Because to society writ large being feminine is something to be scorned and derided. Radically reclaiming forcefem as something beautiful and desirable is always going to fly in the face of what society tells trans women about themselves.
There is not and cannot be a forcemasc equivalent to the radical reclamation of forcefem, because masculinity isn't punished and derided on a societal level in the same way.
Transmasculine people can be and are punished for not confining themselves to the role society assigned them at birth. Everyone is punished to a degree for deviation from the roles we're supposed to play. I'm not arguing against that.
But it fundamentally is not the same, and therefore can't be mirrored. Any attempt to invert the radical reclamation of forced feminization will always come across as transfeminism painted blue.
If we lived in a purely cis-centric non-patriarchal society (that is to say, a society that valued and treated cisgender cissexual men and women equally, but punished transgender and transsexual people for their perceived deviation), there could be a forcemasc equivalent to forcefem. But we don't. We live in a society that subjugates and punishes every person that isn't a cisgender cissexual man.
In a society that values and honors masculinity above all else, and treats everything and everyone else in relation to how it can serve masculinity, forcemasc is incomprehensible.
