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[batbaffle]

sources under the cut since there's actually a lot on jason's age:

tim says he's 13 in a lonely place of dying (his intro), so that's straightforward.

now for jason, his age wasn't technically stated in any panels, but they established that he was 12 in the q&a section

this is further supported by character bios saying jason was 9 when he met batman, and the story with his intro was said to take place 3 years in the past (so 9 + 3 = 12).

if you'd prefer some evidence from within the story itself, jason says he's in 7th grade (7th graders are typically 12-13)

aaaaaand if you do the math on this imaginary gravestone, he's 12 (1974 - 1986).

i'm just gonna assume that jason would've also turned 13 by a lonely place of dying if he were alive, since i don't see any reason to think tim was meant to be older than jason. several months passed between jason's death and tim's intro after all.

[batbaffle]

My boi, the first robin

lol yeah

man that reminds me how marv wolfman gave a bunch of conflicting info in early post-crisis for the age dick was when he became robin. basically jim starlin and a few other writers established a bunch of consistent timeline stuff, but then marv wolfman contradicted it.

shit lemme check the specifics on that.

according to starlin, dick was robin for 6 years, and he stopped working with bruce when he was 19 (batman #416). jason was 9 at that point btw (confirmed in q&a section, consistent with several panels).

according to wolfman, dick was robin for....almost 12 years (new teen titans #55). big difference there buddy! that number could actually work with an itty bitty 8 year old robin. however, starlin said bruce had been batman for under 10 years around that same time (batman: the cult). lmao

then after jason's death wolfman said that only 10 years had passed since the death of dick's parents (batman year 3). this number is a bit less insane, but it still conflicts with the claim that bruce had supposedly been batman for over 2 years at the time.

wolfman implied that dick became robin when he was 13 (lonely place of dying), and that makes sense with the numbers starlin gave in batman #416. dick started at 13, was robin for 6 years, left when he was 19. it checks out. plus if you add up dick's 6 years as robin and jason's 3 years spent with bruce, that gives us about 10 years worth of batman. keep in mind that dick had a 6 month training period (lonely place of dying, also matches jason's info).

from there, we can choose to ignore one of two conflicting claims in order to make the timeline coherent: A. bruce had been batman for only 10 years around the time of jason's death --> change it to 12 years B. bruce met dick after he had been batman for over 2 years --> change it to under 1 year

personally i prefer to maintain starlin's info from batman the cult, so bruce would have to have met dick during his 1st year as batman.

ANYWAY TLDR: dick started being robin when he was 13 in early post-crisis canon, but marv wolfman messed up and said he was 8 once