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Page 584 has Rosemaster saying "but that would.." to glitchmaster's plan about defeating NK, to which she replies "I've taken precautions". Perhaps they've already found a way to persist beyond NK's powers? I'm not sure if that line could have meant anything to do with the crocus. That would imply both of them already know their lives are tied to NK's powers. Incidentally, Rosemaster was already lying about handing over the rose the page right afterwards to throw glitchmaster off her tracks

hmmm i forgot about that part. that COULD mean that they know NK’s power is keeping them alive, but at the same time it seems like they don’t know? because they didnt know why NK keeps carrying on the cycle. maybe they don’t know that NK’s power comes from peoples fear of him? Or they dont realize that NK cares about them and is doing all this to keep them alive?

If Glitchmaster does have a way to survive even without the Nightmare Knight, that will certainly make things interesting.

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what say you that Kanaya's and Karkat's visit to Echidna will still end up be the same choice being asked of them? Jade's quest require resolution post-scratch, John's quest ended up factoring things that APPEAR to be outside sburb's programming (retcon powers), so perhaps Echidna of the troll session was asking a task of Kanaya that's only resolved across 3 sessions(!) so it appeared impossible to her?

Could be. Echidna may very well give both Kanaya and Karkat a second chance to rectify their previous actions. Kanaya, the same “impossible” task as before, which she may accept this time. Karkat, the opportunity to set right his previous mistake of rushing the frog breeding which resulted in the kids’ cancerous universe. (Which wasn’t entirely his fault, but he certainly blames himself for it.)

Maybe Kanaya and Karkat will sendificate the Genesis Frog to Jade in the past. (That still needs to be resolved.) Maybe they’ll breed a second Genesis Frog, so there will be one that becomes the Cherubs’ universe and another that becomes a universe for a new instance of Paradox Space.

If there ends up being two Genesis Frogs, maybe one of these frogs is the “perfect” one from the Trolls’ session that they never found and bred. Echidna could certainly help them with that, and it could easily relate to an “impossible” task that would also be resolved across multiple sessions.

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btw since you're replaying the cases, can you observe if the DD is especially rampant with villain persona switches and their breakdowns? I'm p sure the series starts pretty light on it, just simple expression or minor cosmetic changes, and progressively have gotten more ridiculous over the years as if the team is trying to boil the AA series down to its gimmicks. e.g. Aristotle might be intimidating but it was so hard to take the trial seriously after his mohawk getup reveal (Marlon was worse)

I think you’re right that the ‘persona’ switching has gotten more and more ridiculous, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just the team having fun with the higher memory capacity/3D gimmick. :’D It’s almost been a natural progression in the games, though. The villain reveals and breakdowns are some of the most memorable parts of each game, so it makes sense that they’d want each iteration to be more memorable than the last.

I still think the “final boss” of AAI2 has the most fucking ridiculous reveal and breakdown, though. Not even Marlon can beat that imo.

But anyway, a lot of things in these games have problems with being boiled down to their gimmicks. Even characters like Oldbag and Lotta were nowhere NEAR as bad in their first appearances as they would grow to be later, and you can argue that the Judge himself gets more and more outlandish (and dare I say, idiotic) with each game.

I think the only near-100%-positive example of this is with Apollo himself. His “I’m fine!” wasn’t that much of a thing in his first game, but it became one of his defining characteristics first outside of the series proper, and then inside it with DD. But instead of flattening his character, using that gimmick kinda expanded on it.

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CLAPOLLO GIVES ME LIFE. I can only recall two times when apollo was confronted with juniper's crushing, once when we were athena,once when we were apollo, but I don't recall the bracketed blue text of inner thoughts ever coming up so theres room to imagine apollo feinting obliviousness to not to lead the poor girl on CAUSE HE IS ALREADY IN A BROSHIP WITH SOMEONE ELSE also Aura saying their on the same boat (it's not japan to ever make mainstream media queer relationships so prob not canon)

I really do think Juniper’s crush is never gonna amount to anything more than a crush tbh. This series doesn’t like romantic entanglements that aren’t in the past, for one. For two, you’re right that Apollo never reacts to it. And for three, I think she was meant to be a character who FINALLY treats Apollo positively, rather than the weird backhanded compliments he’s used to getting; that it manifested in the writing as a crush is kind of an unfortunate consequence imo.

As for Aura’s “in the same boat”, it’s likely she was more referring to having lost someone precious to both of them (”at the hands of the little Princess” or whatever she was likely insinuating), but I definitely honestly think Aura’s romantic feelings are otherwise canon. The Japanese is just as insinuating as the English in that regard, which is quite interesting.

Like, Japanese female friendships are on this weird pseudo-romantic-but-not-really pedestal here, but I don’t actually think Aura and Metis fall into that weirdness, and I’d be more surprised if (at least from Aura’s end) it wasn’t romantic.

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A whiplash that occurred was the difference between Countdown and Academy Juniper, I had a moment of confusion about case chronology when Academy Juniper was introduced, her lack of "my grandma said" made me consistently feel that this was an entirely different person, even if they tried to explain it away with "being school president"(and around high school friends) sick!juniper also felt like pandering to the sick sort of japanese fetish about protecting frail delicate girls

Juniper’s character is kinda weird as hell, isn’t it :”D

I think it’s possible to make an argument for something like circumstances? Like, Academy is the first time Juniper’s seen Athena in years iirc, and the first time she’s met Apollo at all. It’d make sense that she was maybe a bit more...stand-off-ish, I suppose? Or that she was keeping secrets during Academy’s run. But that’s about the only explanation I can give for the difference.

I dunno if I can say anything about the possible pandering, but I can certainly see that angle. It probably came from a more benign position, what with it making her obviously innocent, and then also creating the whiplash when we see her first chronological appearance in Academy, but well...

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DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD cause I only found your blog and backtracked hella back after your liveblogging finished and there were no new posts. anyway I was pretty surprised when none of the characters in the DLC case seemed bad at first usually with AA's track record and animedia in general liking/treating animals well = not a villain so I didn't suspect Marlon at first given how he treats Rifle, and wasn't surprised when he was let off the villain hook by having plot-wrttien as innocent

NOPE DEF NOT DEAD, the spoiler blog just grew less and less pertinent as more time passed after the American/international release(s), but I decided to come here to talk DD stuff since a mutual friend on my personal is just going through the game for the first time, and I didn’t wanna deal with readmores o3o

Turnabout Reclaimed is a hell of a case. I’m kinda lazily playing through DD again atm on iOS (it looks SOOOO nice I’m so impressed), but I decided to do both DLC additions first so I could go through the main story last. Reclaimed feels....kinda really long, at some points? Almost to the point of dragged on. I will readily admit my biases have a lot to do with that, though, since the Agency is represented...kinda unevenly. I really appreciated some of the details, like Phoenix giving Apollo a case-related job to do in the background, but what I would have appreciated MORE was if they has split up the junior attorneys so that we were with one during one Investigation Phase, and with the other during the remaining Investigation Phase. I ESPECIALLY feel this because the only significant Nick-Apollo interaction we have is either towards the very end of the game during that brief moment it’s only those two at the defense, or during the quiz dlc which wasn’t localized how dare you.

still morbidly upset about the quiz dlc not being localized and i got to play it

Uh. *ahem*

Yes, Turnabout Reclaimed. I think it went on forever but I LOVE the resolution to the case. We do not often get a genuine, honest to god accident in this series. If memory serves the closest is 1-3, which was a case of self-defense. And you’re right about the characters, it was remarkably hard to pin who it might have been until the very end, and when it turned out to be no one at all it just....felt really natural.

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