#boysbian

[mixhail-friday]

lesboys and turigirls have no idea the amount of respect and admiration i have for them

shout out to all the lesboys and turgirls 🫡

[queertothepoint]

Identity of the Day

Lesboy

Type: Sexuality

Definition: Lesboy, also called Boysbian, Lesguy, Lesman, Lesbiman, or Lesdude, is a label used by those who identify as Lesbian while also identifying in some way as male, masculine-aligned, or as a man. This can be due to identifying as both a man, or masculine gender, and a woman or feminine gender, and identifying more with the term lesbian, being genderfluid and still identifying as a lesbian even when your gender is male or masculine, having a gender identity that falls between a transgender man and a cisgender butch woman, having a gender identity that falls between being a transgender woman and a gender non-conforming cisgender man, being a masculine-aligned woman, or being a feminine-aligned man.

Flag(s):

This is a Lesboy flag made by beyond-mogai-pride-flags in December 2020.

This is a Lesman flag made by beyond-mogai-pride-flags in May 2024.

This is a Lesbian Man flag made by euphorias-journey in July 2021.

This is the Butch Lesboy flag amde by hikus-pride-flags in September 2021.

This is the Femme Lesboy flag made by hikus-pride-flags in September 2021.

This is a Male Lesbian flag made by hikus-pride-flags in November 2021. The indevidual colors don't have meanings though the sections of colors do. The first two stripes represent masculinity, the middle 3 stripes represent wlw love, sapphicness, lesbianism, and women, and the last two stripes represent butchness, mlw love, acceptance, a disconnect from gender and sexuality, and radical inclusionism.

[cottonstuffedpup]

labrys lesboy flag i made for funsies ❤️ i posted this on tt already but figured i wanna post it here too cuz why not ❤️

i love the labrys lesbian flag because its sick af and im a lesboy so i thought itd be cool to make a labrys version of the lesboy flag.... and a trans alt too because FUCK terfs (ive heard the labrys lesbian flag has been claimed by terfs so i want to reclaim it because its too awesome to only be allowed for terfs to use)

[superstarrockinlesbo]

Artfight didn’t let me submit my oc because the file was too big.. luckily tumblr will!! Meet my first oc!! My artfight is @SofaBoa <3

[butch-kyouka]

ppl on tiktok stay soooooo mad abt boysbians. like what you gonna do abt it? call me a fake dyke? okay buddy

[butch-kyouka]

queer people with complex identities do not owe you explanations for your personal understanding.

if you can not respect someone without understanding them, fuck you

[tboy-cock]

why do you identify with "lesbian" if you say you're a man. A man can't be a lesbian, i don't understand it.

The whole lesbian concept excludes men bc it has nothing to do with men. Lesbian is women loving women, and if you identify as a man, i don't understand how you can identify w the lesbian community as well.

like this isba genuine question, I'd like to listen to your explanation bc im genuinely confused!

trans men, and any trans person really, cannot exist on the same binary cisgender people exist on. the binary was not made with trans people in mind, to be trans and to change your sex (which isnt limited to bottom surgery btw), would be inherently nonbinary, simply because the binary does not accommodate for trans people

beyond that, trans men dont have the same rights privileges and power that a cis man would have. meaning that while a trans man IS a man, he is not a cis man, and thus cannot experience male privilege, or the systemic power that comes with being a cis man

so we can conclude from that two things. one, trans people are inherently nonbinary. while not every trans person identified as nonbinary, the act of transitioning, socially and medically, is an inherently nonbinary act. i personally choose to identify as nonbinary to deal with the distress of people forcing me into the cis man category when i am fundementally different from them. now that we have concluded that the act of transitioning is nonbinary, let me address that: trans men have always been included in lesbianism. the communities are not seperate. the historical definition of lesbian has included gender diverse people as well as women, and trans men are still gender diverse

beyond that; a trans man identifying as a lesbian is not the same as a cis man identifying as a lesbian. the ideas that trans men are men and that trans men are NOT cis men can both be true. trans men who are attracted to women have more societally in common with lesbians (especially genderqueer lesbians) than cishet men. yes, trans men identify as straight all the time. however, if a trans man wants to identify as a lesbian, who are we to deny him? he isnt a cis man, hes not a threat to lesbianism or to the queer community.

faq:

"wouldnt identifying as a lesbian and a trans man be invalidating?"

a: different trans men have different opinions for themselves and their gender. some trans men choose to identify as straight/heterosexual, some trans men choose to identify as lesbians. it just depends on the person, however, if a trans man truly felt invalidated by the lesbian label, he just wouldn't use it. you dont get to assign rules on how a trans man chooses to identify, and you don't know him better than he knows himself

"what IS a lesbian then?"

a: the historical defintion of a lesbian is any gender diverse individual who likes women and/or gender diverse people. however, every lesbian can tell you something different. i know lesbians who only date binary women. i know lesbians who are exclusively t4t. i know lesbians who are femme4butch and date trans men who are butches. someones personal definition of their own lesbianism doesnt invalidate yours, and vice versa

"whats next, a CIS man identifying as a lesbian to cause trouble?"

a: and what if the world was made of pudding? trans men are not cis men, and to believe such is wishful thinking at best, and ultimately distressing to trans people. beyond that, i raise a counterargument of, what if we let trans people use the bathroom of their preferred gender? what would happen if a cis person used the opposite genders bathroom to cause trouble? the fact of the matter is, punishing trans people who are trying to live for the hypothetical cis person doing something wrong is transphobic and also stupid

"evan, i dont WANT to date a male lesbian/lesbian on t! what does this mean for my lesbianism?"

a: absolutely nothing! date who you want! you actually dont have to be attracted to every single person who is a lesbian! i know im not! youre allowed your preferences. i do know for a fact that some lesbians, especially under the trans/genderqueer umbrella are really into trans male lesbians and lesbians on t, but that does NOT mean that you have to be! once again, nobody elses personal definition of lesbianism can invalidate YOUR personal definition of lesbianism. im ALL ABOUT doing what you want!

[tboy-cock]

need to make my stance on this known because i had an account interact that i am in their dnis

this is a pro trans man lesbian/trans woman gay and bi/pan lesbian/gay/straight space

im more than happy to make a post on this as well! i would identify as a nonbinary lesbian, however everyone forces me in with trans male lesbians in their activism/transphobia because of the way i look, so ive become educated in that/am forced to speak on it often. but for all practical purposes, if you are against trans man lesbians, you wouldnt like me much, and im sorry i shouldve put it in my dni, but i didnt think id have to because my instagram (t4transsexual) is already geared towards male lesbians and bi/pan lesbians especially and i just kinda figured the right people would find me

and also! if your acceptance of trans lesbians stops at lesbians that you can put/force into the female category, youre still a transphobe. i see you, people who r "cool" with nonbinary lesbians but force me into the "trans male" category when i am nonbinary