Bones content: Here is just the Shadowheart x Astarion banter from the Abdirak scene
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Bones content: Here is just the Shadowheart x Astarion banter from the Abdirak scene
Hi! so, i have a question, about your fic, i know Daemon hated(hates?) Walserys, but, correct me if i am wrong, but i also got the feeling that he loved him still (due to some things he has said or thought, i think i could feel that there was at least some affection there???) , like a love hate (more hate than love, but still), so i wanted to know if i am somewhat correct or if it is just me being blinded by my love for Walserys and i completely misinterpreted what i read? XD
Hi there 😊
You can use the present tense 😂 and before I delve any deeper into this, I want to say that my base to write Daemon's perspective of his relationship with Viserys in "The Blacks & the Greens" has been this sentence right here which to me remains one of the strongest things said about Daemon's feelings in canon (regarding anything):
“When word reached Prince Daemon he spoke no syllable of grief, but his heart hardened against the king, his brother. Thereafter he spoke of King Viserys only with disdain, and began to brood day and night on the succession.”
This is what we are given regarding how Daemon felt about Viserys in Fire and Blood, and it never really changed thereafter. Now, at several different points, Daemon does want to reconcile with Viserys, though given everything that precedes it and follows it, he doesn't strike me all that sincere, and instead, quite honestly, it's mostly because he needs to be in Viserys's good graces to be back in Westeros and do his thing.
Now, how Walserys felt regarding his relationship with Daemon, that is another matter. We know that Viserys never really stops loving Daemon, and continuously tries to see the good in him. That he always makes excuses for his younger brother.
This has been my standing when writing the relationship about the two brothers. On the one side we have the brother who continues to love the other no matter what, tries to see the good in him, and at the end of the day, quarrels aside, just wants to be his friend. Versus, the other brother, ambitious, dangerous, and vengeful, who can't really let it go, and who never has a chance to fully express how he feels.
The latter is Daemon, and this is how I have written him in relation to Viserys. He never forgets what Viserys has done to him, that he caused the death of his firstborn child (indirectly), and he does allude to it throughout the story though he never fully lets it all out. When he does try to bring it up, Viserys - who never thought much of it or ever perceived himself as being responsible for anything - doesn't really get what Daemon is trying to say and dismisses him (which only adds to Daemon's resentment and anger).
Then there's Rhaenyra - the third head of the dragon - who at the same time pulls them closer and other times apart. She's something besides them being each other's brothers that they share, but at the same time she's also a point of contention between them. She's something that Viserys loves, and so part of why Daemon wants to "ruin" her is because he wants to ruin something Viserys loves, like Viserys once did to him in a sense. Catch here is (and I do try to make it clear) that's not the entire story of why he wants Rhaenyra, and he does come to regret his actions, not because he feels sorry for Viserys, but because he feels sorry for his niece, his little dragon.
Even so, throughout the story, in many instances Rhaenyra's caught between the two brothers and made to suffer as they try to throw hits at each other. At other moments, she's something they both love and share, and ultimately, it's also because of her they reach an understanding of sorts, though it does take a while.
For Viserys he makes his final peace with Daemon when Visenya is born. He gets that despite it all, Daemon does love Rhaenyra, that he is a good man (deep down, way, way deep) and a good father, and that he was the right man to marry his daughter and give him his nephews/nieces-grandchildren. For Daemon, this final moment of making his peace never comes. He still resents Viserys, and part of him still hates him, and perhaps always will.
Viserys to Daemon is his bronemy.
However, he's still Daemon's brother. If someone was to ask the Rogue Prince how he felt about Viserys he would say: "He's my brother." Daemon's fond of him, and for all his complaints, he doesn't really mind Viserys. They grew together, shared many adventures as children, and much like Rhaenyra, Viserys always loved Daemon, which he likes. He likes that power of having a hold over another person. He likes being admired. And, while Daemon can say what he wants about Viserys, when others do it, that's another matter, especially if they are not from his family. They are Targaryens, dragons, they are above others, and Daemon especially holds this to his heart.
So in the end... hum... I will leave it at everyone's consideration XD it's not an obvious yer or no, I think. If yes though, don't expect Daemon to ever admit it and go beyond "He's my brother".
PS: Please bear in mind I only consider asoiaf canon as my source on how to write Daemon Targaryen. I only consider the books. Prince Matt Damon has nothing on the Rogue Prince.
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i think i still have an ask about kristoph and i being law school mates and i rly like it i need to reply b/c i have a whole plan on how that'd go down it would be great we'd probably be like rivals or something trying to one up each other but if we don't turn into some domestic saps like miles and nick then i've gone down the wrong path and need to replay until i get the good ending
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