What is your take on all the Charlie hate? Personalty I find a lot of it weird and often done in bad faith
Oh yeah, I've got some Thoughts™ about this! Gonna be spitting some Opinions here, so be warned! There be hot takes abound! And to properly illustrate this, I will be using spites of my persona to convey the tone of this!
The hate on Charlie isn't caused by a writing issue. It's fine to have a character with her flaws because people IRL have those flaws and can learn something by seeing them portrayed in a story. The hate for Charlie is caused when people with similar flaws to Charlie see a mirror and get uncomfortable.
And because they're uncomfortable and embarrassed, they then have to justify it. It is far easier to blame an outside source than to look inwards. So they call it a piece of garbage and jump on the hate bandwagon!
I know this because it made me uncomfortable too. I have fucked up like Charlie did... because it's a realistic mistake to make. That's what causes the 'cringe' reaction. It took me days to watch the entirety of episode 3 because it was way too relatable.
But in the end, Charlie's not an irredeemable piece of shit who needs to do hard labor to be forgiven (same goes for anyone BTW). She's a person who fucked up in a cringe way that had serious consequences. She then took responsibility to repair the damage she had done.
I know I wrote a more... mature version of Charlie for the Fallen Emily AU. I sidestepped the cringe cause that's not what I was focusing on. But, in doing so, I made Charlie a far more shallow character. If I had been writing her for the show, she would have been written off as "just another Mary Sue goody-two-shoes!". But because I'm not Vivzie, people are praising my version of Charlie without realizing all the flaws in my writing.
Nor do they stop to think that I could be just as 'bad' of a person (whatever that means) as the belothed vixen, Vivzie!!!!
And... look, I wish I could be appreciative of all the compliments I've gotten about the Fallen Emily AU. I really do. But as of late, most of them have been like this;
Oh and there's so many more too!
Now, hot take apparently, but maybe don't use a fanwork as a platform to bash the original! I made the comic because I love the show! I'm expanding on it's themes, analyzing it's characters, I've dedicated over a year and a half to this project!
What the hell makes them think I dislike Hazbin? Where do these people get the balls to say this stuff????
So yeah, a lot of the criticism against this show is absolutely in bad faith! I'm starting to suspect there's an actual smear campaign cause it threatens to make people think about morality! Which is... more than a little concerning! That's the thing about bandwagons, you get so caught up in it that you forget to ask where it's going....
And look, even if you hate Hazbin Hotel but love the Fan-Content, still don't do this. If Amazon thinks us fandom creators are a threat to their customer base, they can and will have our stuff removed. We'll get Cease & Desist letters in the mail, and we'll have to take our stuff down! This is also why we can't make money off of it.
It's easy to forget in the era of AO3 supremacy, but we are not safe from copyright violations. Hiding from the big corporate eye in the sky is the best way to keep the fan-stories you like avalible. So don't go making it a Thing™ alright?
Anyways, in conclusion; I agree wholeheartedly with brain bubbles here and my take is that Charlie was a bit cringe/prideful this season, but that's better than her being bland.
lol Charlie from spn just because of that last tag
This is gonna be all hate.
Why I like them: I do not except that they are a woman and lasted more than one episode on Supernatural. That’s a feat.
Why I don’t: Everything? The fact she is so super awkward, they made a character that was supposed to represent the weirdness of the fandom while still trying to make her a bad ass and it comes off as 20 times worse than my second hand embarrassment for Michael Scott.
Favorite episode (scene if movie): None.
Favorite season/movie: None.
Favorite line: None.
Favorite outfit: None.
OTP: I will say Dorothy/Charlie cause that made her leave for a while.
Brotp: Charlie/Idiocy.
Head Canon: She is replaced with a lady not as terrible. Like Bela Talbot.Or Jo Harvelle. Or Lisa. Or basically any OTHER WOMAN EVER on the show.
Unpopular opinion: Obviously it’s unpopular that I don’t like her. I think her whole character type is shit and the fact they made her a lesbian so she didn’t “threaten” the m/m ships is even more ridiculous. That’s what made her survive more than one ep and not get attacked by the fandom.
A wish: That she wasn’t a character???
An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen: Don’t let her be resurrected.
5 words to best describe them: Embarrassing, awkward, quirky (in the JLaw way, like playing that shit up for popularity, on the writers’ part obviously), naive, dull.
My nickname for them: *five second long fart noise*