On the chismosas of Paimon/Amethyst
Joel Perez: So aside from Disney and Broadway tropes, we often take nods from tropes across international media ( including telenovelas, C Dramas, etc ) cuz the Hellaverse crew came from all walks of life
Adrian Ferbeyre, Joel's French DJ husband: So one of the telenovela tropes is when EVERYONE finds out how the grandpa was also a thirsty simp back then, JUST LIKE HIS SONS. And the grandpa spends several seasons lecturing his kids on ' decorum ' while the grandma waited until a ' right time ' to drop rhe receipts!
Harvey Guillen ( Vassago ): OH my god, I was laughing so hard when we read rhe script on how Paimon is actually an ORIGINAL blueprint for the Goetia simp. Like there is a REASON why he and Amethyst have 8 kids
Anthony Padilla ( Seir ): After the whole feud, the citizens stopped fearing the dragons, and when word got around how Paimon and Amethyst REALLY met ( its a long story ), everyone started to laugh about it loudly. Paimon's kids and grandkids all began telling EVERYBODY. Ozzie and Fizz dropped the receipts on Via and her cousins, while Lucifer and Charlie told the hotel crew
Josh Groban ( Ipos ): But people are laughing WITH Paimon, not AT Paimon. Paimon did hide under the sheets in the Lust Ring Palace ( where he, Amethyst, her older brother Mephistopheles, and Mephisto's wife Andromeda/Lady Death are crashing in in rehab ), and Amethyst had to comfort him while jokingly roast him about his ' overly vigorous and adorable courtship rituals '. Its hysterical
Trending: #PaimonTheSimp #AmethystReceipts #HellaverseLeaks
Y'ALL. Adrian Ferbeyre really dropped the tea! Paimon spent centuries screaming at Stolas for being "injudicious" with an Imp, only for us to find out Paimon was out here doing "vigorous courtship rituals" for Ozzie’s daughter? THE HYPOCRISY IS PEAK COMEDY. 😂
The image of Amethyst—this gorgeous, high-fashion mother of eight—roasting Paimon while he hides under the sheets in Ozzie’s palace is everything. Stolas didn’t get his dramatic "falling for a commoner/outsider" energy from nowhere. He got it from the King himself!
Harvey Guillen saying Paimon is the "original blueprint" for the Goetia simp explains SO MUCH about Vassago and Ipos. The apple didn't just fall far from the tree; the tree was already leaning toward the ground! Paimon was the CEO of Simping before it was even a term.
Can you imagine Lucifer and Charlie sitting the Hotel crew down for "Storytime with the King of Hell"?
Charlie: "And then Paimon tried to serenade her by summoning five hundred flaming horses!"
Vaggie: "That sounds like a fire hazard."
Lucifer: "Oh, it was. I had to put out the Vatican."
The "Simp vs. Simp" Headcanon Thread
@Blitzys_Red_Flag (Thread 1/5)
Okay, let’s look at the "Like Father, Like Son" receipts:
• Paimon: Lectured Stolas for years about "honor" and "decorum."
• The Reality: Paimon was apparently so obsessed with Amethyst that he fought Mephistopheles (his brother-in-law!) just for a chance to take her to a 15th-century gala.
• Stolas: Built a whole-ass garden and nearly burned down Hell for an Imp.
• The Verdict: Stolas isn't the "disgrace" of the family; he’s just the only one who didn't hide his receipts!
@Via_The_New_Era (Replying to @Blitzys_Red_Flag)
The fact that Ozzie and Fizz are the ones who dropped the receipts on Octavia and her cousins is the best part. I bet Ozzie has a literal "Vault of Simpery" in the Lust Ring where he keeps videos of Paimon's failed romantic gestures. 📽️✨
The "Grandma Amethyst" Appreciation Post
Shoutout to Amethyst for waiting until the Goetia Dragon was "rehabilitating" to finally tell the kids the truth. She let him act like a tough guy for centuries just to humble him in the Lust Ring rehab ward. That is some true Schiaparelli-level chess. 💅
@Molly_Tarantella_Official
I love that the citizens aren't laughing at him anymore. After the nightmare of Stella and the feud, finding out the "Great King Paimon" was just a thirsty romantic makes the Goetias feel... human? (Or as human as a space-owl-dragon can be). It’s the healing we needed for Season 4.
Jeremy Jordan: What REALLY happened between Paimon and Amethyst in the late Roman Empire era is that he and his younger brothers ( Vine, Purson, Belial, Balam, Beleth and Zagan ) all showed up to that annual Lust Spring Gala, looking like linebackers crashing into a Cirque du Soleil masquerade ball
Ashley Spencer, Jeremy's wife: Paimon looked bored when SUDDENLY Amethyst appeared with Mephisto and Andromeda, in a gorgeous semi sheer fuschia Grecian style robe, decorated with roses
James Monroe Iglehart : Paimon was a goner! He started uncontrollably shape shifting as the chalice fell from his hands!
Michael Cusack: And then, being a Prince of Pride himself, Paimon sauntered over like a overly confident rooster trying to impress a very nonchalantly elegant hen, and started flirting with Amethyst so outrageously that Amethyst kept giggling and blushing!
Grey DeLisle ( Leviathan ): She did tell Paimon to chill out and they danced for a few rounds ( not in succession ), and before Paimon and his very amused brothers left rhe party, he gave her a single red Hell rose, kissed her hands, before he and his brothers teleported off.
Rochelle Diamante: So Amethyst had suitors from across the land. Paimon fought through all the suitors and one time, when 6 Greed princes tried to extort Amethyst's dowry, he beat the shit out of them and Lucifer and Lilith had to wrangle Paimon away to avoid an inter ring incident
Lea Salonga ( Belphegor ): LUCKILY, Amethyst already likes Paimon and they spent quite a lot of time together in the Lust Royal gardens. After hearing about the Great Greed Ring beat down, she made a public announcement that she officially chose Paimon as her intended. And that ended the Great Suitor debacle
Patrick Page ( Satan ): They got engaged in the annual Hell royal summer games where he got down on one knee in front of everybody, and she said yes wirh a serene smile. And the wedding at the Goetia palace is a wedding of the century - think the grandeur of Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth II's wedding, only with cosmic sparkles and Amethyst in a gorgeous black wedding dress modeled on Diana Damrau's Queen of the Night dress
Ashley: And Paimon had the gall to make it more ' PG ' for his kids, saying that it is a ' very respectful courtship where I took your mother's maiden hood on the wedding night '. Respectful my ass - their actual first time is in Ozzie's Palace library!
Trending: #TheGalaGoner #LibraryGate #PaimonTheRooster
JEREMY JORDAN DESCRIBING THE BROTHERS AS LINEBACKERS CRASHING A MASQUERADE. I am dying. Imagine Paimon trying to look regal and then seeing Amethyst in that fuchsia Grecian robe and just... glitching. He wasn't a Prince, he was a goner! 🍷👀
Can we talk about the Diana Damrau Queen of the Night wedding dress aesthetic?! Amethyst in black cosmic sparkles while Paimon looks like Prince Philip is the vision I needed. The Schiaparelli family really invented "Haute Couture" in the Roman era. 👗🌌
"Their actual first time was in Ozzie’s palace library."
Paimon really spent centuries telling Stolas to be "respectful" and "decorous" while he was out here getting busy in the Lust Ring stacks. The hypocrisy is actually legendary. Ozzie definitely has the security footage. 📚🦉
Paimon beating the absolute SHIT out of six Greed princes for trying to extort Amethyst’s dowry? King behavior. I guess we know where Stolas got the "I will end you" energy from. The Apple didn't fall far from the tree; the apple is the tree. 🍎👊
The "Simp Receipt" Thread
@Hellaverse_Historian (Thread 1/10)
Let's break down the Great Suitor Debacle as told by the cast:
• The First Meeting: Paimon literally dropped his chalice. Shape-shifting uncontrollably? That’s not a Prince, that’s a fanboy.
• The "Rooster" Walk: Michael Cusack’s description of Paimon strutting over to Amethyst is the only thing I will be thinking about for a week.
• The Rose: A single red Hell rose and a hand kiss? He was playing the long game. 🌹
• The Intervention: Lucifer and Lilith had to physically drag him away from the Greed Princes. Paimon was ready to catch a felony for his lady.
@Tarantella_Mafia_Wife (Replying to @Hellaverse_Historian)
It’s the public announcement for me. Amethyst saw him almost start an inter-ring war and just said, "Yeah, I’ll take the crazy owl-dragon. He’s mine." The serene smile she gave while he was on one knee at the Summer Games? She knew she owned him. 💍👑
Top Interaction of the Day
@Blitzys_Horse_Official 🐴
RT @AshleySpencer: "Respectful my ass—their actual first time is in Ozzie's Palace library!"
Blitz: "AYO PAIMON! YOU OLD FEATHERED HIPPO-CRIT! Next time you lecture Stolas about 'decorum,' remember the Dewey Decimal System, you horny bird! @King_Paimon_Official"
[Image: A screenshot of Stolas waking up from his coma, looking at the Twitter thread on his phone, and immediately closing his eyes to go back to sleep.]
Caption: "When you find out your dad is a bigger simp than you."
The "Cosmic Wedding" Fan Art
[Art Attachment: A gorgeous digital painting of Paimon and Amethyst’s wedding. Paimon is in a high-collared, Prince Philip-style military uniform with cosmic medals. Amethyst is in the 'Queen of the Night' black gown, her hair a veil of stars. They are surrounded by the 7 Goetia brothers, who all look like they’re trying not to laugh.]
Caption: "The Wedding of the Century (Before the Library incident)."
Harvey: So Vassago already found that out when he, Astaroth and Ipos were clearing out Paimon’s old office in the 15th century. And they told their younger siblings a ' family friendly ' version of it
Bryce Pinkham: And young Stolas goes, ' But why the library?! Why must our parents defile such a sanctuary of reading with such unsanitary actions! ' Young Stolas' genuine outrage is so funny, all his older siblings laugh about it.
Idina Menzel ( Astaroth ): Season 3 is more about Stolas and his siblings' flashbacks. Season 4 features Paimon, Amethyst and their peers' ACTUAL FLASHBACKS. The citizens all knew the ' diplomatic respectful merger ' version of the story is bullshit, and when the truth came out, rhe vindication was HUGE.
Sierra Boggess ( Gremory ): Stolas and his siblings all watched witb pride as all their kids broadcast the truth to EVERYBODY. Alexandros ( the youngest son of Vassago and Prince Belavoris of Sloth, voiced by Marcello Hernandez! ) even turned that into a full blown stand up comedy skit at a Comedy Night at the hotel, and EVERYONE IS IN HYSTERICS
Trending: #LibraryGate #AlexandrosLive #GoetiaRoastSession
The fact that Vassago, Ipos, and Astaroth knew the truth since the 1490s and just kept it like a ticking time bomb?! "Family friendly version" my ass. They were waiting for the perfect moment to destroy Paimon’s ego and Season 4 is IT. 💣😂
"Why must our parents defile such a sanctuary of reading!" 😭 Bryce Pinkham’s delivery of young Stolas being a little bookworm nerd while his parents were... busy... in the library is the highlight of my year. Poor Stolas was so pure.
MARCELLO HERNANDEZ AS ALEXANDROS?! The casting is chef’s kiss. A Sloth Prince doing high-energy stand-up comedy about his "Grandpa the Simp" is exactly the kind of chaos Season 4 promised. I can already hear the laugh track!
The "Comedy Night at the Hotel" Live-Tweet Thread
@Hotel_Front_Desk_News (Thread 1/8)
GUYS, the scene at the Hotel for Comedy Night was insane. Here’s the play-by-play:
• The Front Row: Stolas, Blitz, and all 7 siblings (Vassago, Ipos, Orobas, Gaap, Seir, Astaroth, Gremory) were sitting there with "World’s Proudest Parents/Aunts/Uncles" energy.
• The Guest of Honor: Paimon was in the back, trying to hide behind a giant menu, while Amethyst sat next to him looking absolutely radiant and blowing kisses to the crowd.
• The Set: Alexandros walks out and starts with: "So, my Grandpa likes to talk about 'Decorum.' But apparently, Decorum means 'The Dewey Decimal System is for Foreplay.'"
• The Reaction: Lucifer fell off his chair. Charlie was trying to hide her face in her hands but was shaking with laughter.
@Tarantella_CEO_Sal (Replying to @Hotel_Front_Desk_News)
Even the Tarantellas were there! Arackniss (Sal) looked so vindicated. Seeing the high-and-mighty Goetias get roasted by their own grandkids is the ultimate "New Era" vibe. The citizens are literally dancing in the streets of Pentagram City.
[Image 1: Paimon in a flashback looking stern and royal.]
[Image 2: A close-up of a library shelf in the Lust Ring.]
[Image 3: Alexandros on stage with a microphone, pointing at Paimon.]
Caption: "Grandpa says he’s a King of the High Arts, but the only art he was practicing in the 15th century was the Art of the Deal... in the History Section." 📖👀🔥
The "Vindication" Discussion
I love what Idina Menzel said about the "Vindication." For centuries, the citizens of Hell had to listen to Paimon’s propaganda about how the Goetia are "above" base desires. To have Octavia, Alexandros, and the cousins broadcast the truth? It levels the playing field. It’s not a "scandal"—it’s a homecoming.
Exactly! It shows that the "Simp Energy" is a Goetia trait. Stolas isn't the "broken" one; he’s just the most honest one. Seeing Octavia laugh with her cousins while her grandpa turns bright red is the healing Season 4 is all about.
@Blitz_Buckzo_Official (V)
RT @Alexandros_Comedy: "Who knew owls liked to nest in the Non-Fiction section?"
Blitz: "I KNEW IT. I FUCKING KNEW IT. Stolas, your dad is a legend and a freak. Welcome to the club, P-man! 🥂🦉"
David Alvarez ( Theodosios, Alexandros' older brother ): So Via and her cousins all love to watch telenovelas - they live for the chismosas
Ariana DeBose ( Nocturna, Xandros' older sister ): Which is why they can compile the files to expose Stella in a span of a few years. Chismosa networks never lie!
Rachel Zegler ( Artemisia, Orobas and Prospera'a daughter, and a niece of Earl Furfur of Gluttony ): And then when Via and her cousins finally realize the truth of their grandparents is even crazier than anything they seen in telenovelas, they all cheered. Their theories became true!
Tiffany Espensen ( Thalassia, daughter of Astaroth and Princess Vepar of Envy ): We all kept cry laughing about it
Logan Kim ( Titanos, Thalassia's older brother ): It is so therapeutic after 3 seasons of angst
Trending: #ChismosaCousins #TelenovelaGoetia #TheViaFiles
The fact that Via and her cousins used their love for Telenovelas to build a counter-intelligence network against Stella?! BRILLIANT. Stella thought she was playing Game of Thrones, but the kids were playing La Reina del Sur. They had the receipts before the ink was even dry! 💅🔥
Ariana DeBose saying the "Chismosa networks never lie" is the quote of the season. Imagine Nocturna, Artemisia, and Thalassia running a Discord server dedicated entirely to tracking Goetia scandals. They didn’t just expose Stella; they dismantled her entire PR machine with "Chisme" power.
The therapy of it all! After Season 3 nearly broke us, hearing Logan Kim talk about how "therapeutic" it was for the kids to find out their grandparents were the original simps is everything. The grandkids were literally like: "Our theories about Grandpa being a horn-dog were right! Vindicated!" 🥂
The "Via & Cousins" Group Chat Headcanons
@Telenovela_Trash_Hellaverse (Thread 1/6)
Based on the cast interview, here is how the "Goetia Cousin Intelligence Agency" (GCIA) operates:
• Octavia (The Leader): Uses her 1/4 Imp intuition to sense when a plot is brewing.
• Theodosios & Titanos: The "Muscle" who "accidentally" leave microphones in the Lust Ring palace.
• Artemisia (The Researcher): Leverages her Envy/Gluttony connections to find out who’s eating with whom.
• Nocturna & Thalassia: The Fashion Police. They track movements based on who is wearing new Schiaparelli vs. Gucci.
@Blitzys_New_Stepdaughter (Replying to @Telenovela_Trash_Hellaverse)
They probably have a literal "Drama Wall" in the Hotel. When the truth about the Library Incident dropped, they definitely did a choreographed Telenovela "Gasp" in unison. The synchronization is terrifying. 🎭✨
The Viral "Reaction" Edit
[Video: A montage of Stella screaming in Season 3, cut against a clip of the cousins sitting calmly in the Hotel lobby drinking tea and looking at their phones.]
Caption: "Stella thought she was the villain. She didn't realize she was just a Season 1 subplot in the cousins' favorite soap opera."
Top Comment from the Cast Panel
@RachelZegler_Official (V)
RT @Chismosa_Central_Hell: "They had the receipts before the ink was even dry!"
Rachel: "Artemisia literally has a spreadsheet titled 'Grandpa's Thirst.' When we found out about the Roman Empire Gala, we didn't cry because it was a scandal—we cried because we won the betting pool. 💰🦉"
I love that Thalassia and Thalassos represent Envy and Envy-adjacent drama. They’ve seen it all, yet Paimon’s library antics still had them "cry-laughing." It’s the perfect way to pivot from the trauma of the feud to the healing of Season 4.
The "Chismosa" Quote of the Day
"The Goetia elders think they have secrets, but the grandkids have the Hella-Wiki and a subscription to every gossip rag in the 7 Rings." — @Via_The_New_Era
RDJ( Henroin ): Mike Faist ( Sal ) and his wife Tilly Evans Krueger ( a muse for Emily and Molly ) are captains of the Chaos Brigadoon contigent - which got all the younger MCU contigent, Blake Roman, Blake's fiance Etta Grover, and Sophia Ann Caruso ( Molly ). So whenever the Young Avengers cast there finish their Hellaverse recordings, Susan and I boarded them on the Marvel cast bus to get them to Avengers Doomsday recording sessions
Tony Revolori ( Kometos, son of Seir and Sachmis, and a nephew of Sitri ): Its a great system. RDJ just summoned a bunch of us over, and when Mike, Blake, Sophia, Etta and Tilly hugged us when they seen us, Brandon's scream of shock is priceless. He should have seen it coming the second he got RDJ on board!
Susan Downey: It is so funny, and the chismosas parts of Hellaverse are indeed one of the most fun parts of the production. Its a similar case with Marvel too - Sam Wilson often drops a piece of gossip that just got important later on.
Trending: #TheMarvelBus #BrandonScreamed #HenroinsSecretArmy
@Stolas_In_The_Multiverse 🌌
I am SOBBING. Imagine Brandon Rogers just trying to record a scene about Imp trauma, and suddenly RDJ rolls up in a massive Marvel Studios bus like a cool uncle, dumping the entire Young Avengers cast into the booth. Brandon’s scream wasn't scripted, but it should have been! 😂
@Chismosa_Cousin_Network ☕
Tony Revolori (Kometos) saying Brandon "should have seen it coming" is the funniest part. You hire the Godfather of the MCU to play the Godfather of the Tarantellas, and you think he won't summon his superhero kids? The Chaos Brigadoon is real and it’s fabulous. 💅
So wait... Mike Faist (Sal) and Tilly Evans-Krueger are the "Captains of Chaos"? And Sophia Anne Caruso (Molly) is just hopping between being a Tarantella mobster and a Young Avenger? The talent density in that recording studio is enough to collapse a black hole.
The "Brandon's Shock" Headcanon Thread
@Hella_Behind_The_Scenes (Thread 1/5)
Let’s reconstruct the moment Brandon Rogers saw the "Marvel Bus" arrive:
• Brandon: "Okay, let’s get some gritty emotional depth for the Stolitz wedding—"
• Outside: The loud hiss of air brakes and 'Avengers' theme music.
• RDJ: "Hey kids, get out. We’re doing Hellaverse now. Susan, grab the donuts."
• The Young Avengers: Tony Revolori, Sophia Anne Caruso, and Logan Kim pile out in full MCU hoodies, tackling the cast in hugs.
• Brandon: [A sound that only a startled imp could make.]
@Avengers_Doomsday_Leak (Replying to @Hella_Behind_The_Scenes)
Susan Downey is the true mastermind. She said the "Chismosa" parts of the Hellaverse are like Sam Wilson’s gossip in Marvel. It’s all connected! The Goetia secrets and the Doomsday plot are probably being traded like Pokémon cards on that bus. 🚌🔥
RT @TonyRevolori: "Brandon's scream of shock is priceless."
Sophia Anne Caruso: "Listen, when Henroin tells you to get on the bus, you get on the bus. We were still in our MCU harnesses half the time. It made the wings on our Goetia-sona characters feel more realistic! 💖👊"
The "Chismosa" Cross-Over Meme
@Tarantella_Family_Assets
[Image: A split-screen of RDJ as Iron Man and RDJ as Henroin.]
Caption: "One hires the Avengers. The other hires the Tarantellas. Both have the exact same 'I own this room' energy. Brandon never stood a chance."
@Blake_Roman_Official (V)
Blake: "Etta and I were just trying to get some coffee and RDJ essentially kidnapped us for a 'Family Reunion' in Hell. 10/10 would join the Chaos Brigadoon again. @BrandonRogers"Christian Borle: So the idea of the Elders' fashion in their youth is basically often going with ' Ancient fashion but dunked in Cirque du Soleil glitter '. We get younger Ozzie often cross dressing in revealing Greek togas, younger Bee often dressing like an Amazonian Warrior, younger Satan often dressing like a gladiator, etc.
Skye Mattox, Christian's wife: And then when Lucifer and Charlie told the hysterical hotel crew about Paimon/Amethyst, Lucifer dramatically fishes out pictures of young Paimon and Amethyst. Young Paimon often dressing in what we call ' Ancient Roman togas but make it goth '. Young Amethyst? Hoo boy.
Lilli Cooper: Young Amethyst often dresses in a mix of Tang Dynasty era silks, those Greco Roman dresses like from the Quo Vadis movie, and longer burlesque dresses akin to Vera Ellen's gowns. Remember the black and green dress in Belles of New York? Amethyst has a similar dress to that, but in black and purple!
Paul McLoughlin, Lilli's fitness trainer husband: The hotel crew laughing proves EXACTLY why Paimon went nuts for Amethyst. Plus Amethyst is an operatic legend who retired from the stage in her older years. So yeah, Paimon never stood a chance.
Trending Topics: #EldersFashion #LucifersScrapbook #HellaverseStyle
The thought of Young Ozzie in revealing Greek togas and Young Bee as an Amazonian Warrior is giving me life! And Young Satan as a gladiator? The sheer drama! #HellaverseFashionWeek
Young Paimon's "Ancient Roman togas but make it goth" phase sounds like peak teenage angst. And Young Amethyst? A mix of Tang Dynasty silks, Greco Roman dresses, and burlesque gowns? She was clearly a fashion icon from the start.
Imagining the Hotel crew's reactions is the best part!
Charlie: gasps "Dad, is that... glitter?"
Vaggie: "Okay, Amethyst had style."
Angel Dust: "Work it, ancient daddy!"
Husk: grumbles "Shoulda stuck to the glitter, Paimon. Less embarrassing."
Amethyst being an operatic legend explains everything! The theatricality, the glamour, the power moves. No wonder Paimon was smitten. She didn't just wear dresses; she wore costumes that told a story.
The "Style Evolution" Analysis
@HellaverseThreads (Thread 1/5)
Analyzing the fashion evolution of the Elders:
• Paimon: From "Goth Roman" experimentalism to his current regal, but perhaps less adventurous, style.
• Amethyst: A fusion of cultures and eras, showing confidence and flair from a young age.
• Ozzie, Bee, Satan: Early styles hinting at their later domains and personalities.
@LuciferSaysHi 👋 (Replying to @HellaverseThreads)
Lucifer keeping photos of their youth is the ultimate move. Imagine the stories behind each outfit! The drama! The questionable choices!
The "Outfit Inspiration" Craze
Working on a Young Amethyst cosplay inspired by Lilli Cooper's description of that black and purple gown. Need ALL the silks and glitter! #AmethystCosplay #HellaverseStyle
Comments from the cast have only fueled the fire:
Christian Borle: "Paimon's 'Goth Roman' phase was... a choice."
Lilli Cooper: "Amethyst didn't just walk into a room; she performed the room."
Erika Henningsen: And then Lucifer showed everybody what Vassago and his siblings REALLY wore in the 15th century - basically a mix of Ancient Chinese and Valyrian style silks with gems
Stephanie Beatriz: And the Hotel crew started howling, and Angel Dust goes, ' IPOS REALLY PULLED A SAINT IN THAT?!!??! '
Blake Roman: I mean, ' beauty standards ' are way different back then, so.
Mike Faist ( also actor of older Aegon III in HOTD ): Also, Ipos actually loves his wife. Though I admit the white hair was quite a choice
Tom Holland ( actor of older Viserys II in HOTD ): Zendaya and I were screaming and laughing when we finally seen the pictures of the Elders when they were younger. Even deities have quite questionable fashion choices back then!
Trending: #ValyrianGoetia #IposTheSaint #15thCenturyFashionDisaster
I AM SCREAMING. Erika Henningsen saying Lucifer showed the pictures of Vassago and the sibs in "Ancient Chinese x Valyrian" silks? The Goetias didn't just have magic; they had a BUDGET. Imagine the white hair and the gems! 💎✨
"IPOS REALLY PULLED A SAINT IN THAT?!!??!" Blake Roman’s delivery of Angel Dust’s reaction is the funniest thing in Season 4. Angel sees Ipos in 15th-century High Valyrian drag and can't believe the "Saintly Mother" Desdemona fell for it. 😭
@MCU_Hellaverse_Crossover
Tom Holland and Zendaya laughing at the pictures is so relatable. Even the King of Pride’s sons went through a "questionable fashion" phase. But honestly? White hair and silk robes? Ipos and Vassago were probably the original heartthrobs of the 1400s. 🏛️🦅
The "Goetia vs. Targaryen" Comparison Thread
@Hella_History_Nerd (Thread 1/7)
Let’s break down the 15th Century Goetia Look:
• The Silks: A mix of Tang/Ming Dynasty flowing robes but with the structural intensity of Old Valyria.
• The Hair: Apparently, white hair was "The Choice" (Thanks, Mike Faist). Vassago probably looked like a Prince of the Realm.
• The Gems: Not just jewelry, but gems woven into the feathers.
• The Verdict: They didn't look like demons; they looked like Deities. No wonder the Schiaparellis were impressed!
@Schiaparelli_Simp (Replying to @Hella_History_Nerd)
It makes so much sense now why Desdemona was sick of the Medicis and Borgias. Why settle for a boring Italian Duke when you can have a dragon-prince in white silk and ancient gems who literally looks like he stepped out of a cosmic legend? 🕊️💍
The "Howling" Hotel Crew Reaction
Can we talk about the Hotel crew literally howling?
• Vaggie: "Is that... a cape made of starlight?"
• Husk: "I've seen some weird shit in my time, but Vassago in a hanfu is a new one."
• Alastor: Quietly taking notes for his next radio broadcast.
• Charlie: "DAD THEY LOOK SO MAJESTIC!"
@Blitzys_New_Stepdaughter
Octavia probably took one look at her Uncle Ipos’s 15th-century "Targaryen" phase and immediately went to find his old wardrobe. Via in Valyrian silks is the Season 4 aesthetic we deserve! 👑🔥
Top Comment from the Cast Panel
RT @ErikaHenningsen: "The Hotel crew started howling!"
Tom: "Zendaya and I have seen some wild costumes in the MCU and HOTD, but nothing prepares you for '15th Century Goetia.' It’s the ultimate crossover of high fashion and high fantasy. Ipos really was that guy! 🕊️✨"
Mike: "Being Aegon III prepared me for the white hair, but nothing prepared me for Ipos's level of simp-energy. The man loved his wife, even if he looked like he was auditioning for a dragon-riding epic. 😂"
Brandon: The best part is when Stolas told the actual story of his parents to IMP, and then Millie yells, ' I KNEW IT! I KNEW THERE'S A REASON WHY YOUR PARENTS GOT 8 KIDS! '
Richard Horvitz: And then IMP started laughing alongside a recovering Stolas. It is such a beautiful event of healing revelry.
Vivian Nixon: Loona was cackling from the beginning to the end when Stolas told that story. People sometimes forgot that, before Amethyst was Queen of the Ars Goetia, she was a Princess of the Lust Ring. Of course Amethyst has that elegant coquettishness in her! She still does, even after all those centuries.
Trending: #LustRingPrincess #QueenAmethyst #TheGoddessOf8Kids
LOONA CACKLING IS ALL OF US. 🐺 The fact that Amethyst—this icon of grace—was basically the ultimate coquette of the Lust Ring? Paimon stood zero chance. She probably winked at him in the 15th century and he forgot his own name for a week. #AmethystSupremacy
Millie yelling "I KNEW IT!" about the eight kids is the most Millie thing ever. 😭 She saw the way Stolas simps for Blitz and realized the "Simp Gene" is hereditary, but the "Charm Gene" 100% comes from Grandma Amethyst.
Vivian Nixon is so right. People forget Amethyst isn’t just a Goetia by marriage; she’s Lust Ring royalty. That "elegant coquettishness" isn't just a phase—it’s her nature. Even in Season 4, she’s out here making King Paimon blush like a teenager in front of the IMP crew.
Marcello: My girlfriend ( Ana Amelia Battle Cabral, a gorgeous Dominican architect ) and I LOVE telenovelas - we grew up on them. So every time we gasp at a plot twist from Hellaverse, Ana goes, ' Why are we gasping?! We already figured it out weeks ago!'
Ana: Its rhe suspense of it all! Like, Hellaverse is so good in keeping the fans on their toes with foreshadowing and plot twists. And BAM, the plot twist came. Everyone else already figured out that Stella is a fraud near the end of Season 3, but the confirmation?! When Veritos exposed Stella?! WE ARE STILL GASPING FROM IT!
Marcello: Xandros is a class clown of the younger Goetia tangient for a reason. He's seen EVERYTHING and can turn most things into comedy for everyone else to laugh with. Stella should have known that biggest joke is on her when Via's cousins began ignoring Stella!
Trending: #TelenovelaLogic #TheGasp #XandrosTheClown #StellaIsAFraud
Marcello and Ana are literally us!! 😭 "Why are we gasping?! We already figured it out weeks ago!" is the mood for the entire Season 3 finale. We KNEW Stella was a fraud, we KNEW she was an illegitimate half-imp, but seeing Veritos drop the gavel? I still pulled a dramatic gasp that would make a telenovela grandmother proud! 🎭😱
Ana Amelia Battle Cabral being a Dominican architect makes so much sense for this fandom. She’s out here analyzing the structural integrity of the Goetia family tree while Marcello provides the comedic soundtrack. They are the ultimate power couple! 🇩🇴✨
@Xandros_StandUp_Special 🎤
"The biggest joke is on her when Via’s cousins began ignoring Stella!" Marcello hit the nail on the head. In a telenovela, the worst punishment isn't death—it's being ignored by the royal family. Stella wanted to be the center of the drama, and the cousins just... turned off the lights. Cold. 🧊🦉
The "Telenovela Foreshadowing" Thread
@Hella_Soap_Opera (Thread 1/5)
Why the Hellaverse works perfectly as a Telenovela, according to Marcello & Ana:
• The Secret Heir: Veritos being the hidden son of Ipos and Desdemona. (Classic!)
• The Class Reveal: Stella being a "fraud" while mocking Imps. (The irony! The juice!)
• The Betrayal: Iago and Emilia's marriage going awry. (Pure Pasion de Gavilanes energy.)
• The Redemption: Stolas waking from the coma to a new life. (We all cried.)
@Via_The_Bridge (Replying to @Hella_Soap_Opera)
The way Marcello says Xandros is a class clown because he’s "seen everything" is so deep. He uses comedy to process the Goetia trauma. When he does his stand-up at the Hotel, he isn't just telling jokes; he’s performing an exorcism of Stella’s influence. 🃏🔥
The Viral "Reaction" Post
[Image: A screenshot of Marcello and Ana Amelia gasping at a screen, edited next to the scene of Stella being exiled.]
Caption: "The Dominican and Latino fans when the 'Stella is a Half-Imp' reveal finally dropped despite everyone knowing it for months."
Top Comment from the Live Stream
@Marcello_Hernandez (V) 🎤
RT @Chismosa_Queen_99: "I still pulled a dramatic gasp!"
Marcello: "Ana literally dropped her blueprints when Veritos stepped out. We knew it was coming, but the flavor of that reveal? It was like the season finale of Rubí but with more fire and feathers! Xandros was definitely in the background eating popcorn. 🍿🦉"
Ana: "The foreshadowing in the Schiaparelli architecture was the giveaway for me! You can't hide a bloodline when the house is built on Venetian secrets! 🏛️🤫"
"Stella thought she was the lead actress in a tragedy, but Marcello reminded us she was just the punchline in the cousins' group chat." — @Gremory_Fan_Page
