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How my work day is ending. Questlove DJ’ing the final session of the Clio Cloud Conference for legal software nerds. A fun end to an otherwise overly busy day!

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DON’T SPEND MONEY ON STUPID SHIT PART IV: PAYING LAWYERS FOR WHAT MACHINES DO BETTER

Can you remember the last time you used the “Yellow Pages?” Can you even remember the last time you saw a Yellow Pages. For that matter when is the last time you used a regular telephone book. When you receive those books what do you do with them? Do they even make it past the garbage can?

Why is that? Because you Google. The Yellow Pages and telephone books are ancient artifacts that have been replaced by technology.

Believe it or not, lawyers use technology too. Legal book publishers have become data storage companies. So ask yourself this – why do you pay your lawyer to do something a machine can do better?

We’ve all seen ads for Legal Zoom. Many people who use Legal Zoom and software like it to receive all of the legal services they need. But, at least for now, Legal Zoom cannot address more than routine legal issues.

Legal Zoom does not work in complicated transactions or instances where a lawyer’s knowledge is important to make sure you know what you are receiving will be recognized in court.

That being said, any lawyer who is worth your money knows that sophisticated software exists to do for lawyers what Legal Zoom does for non-lawyers. How do you know when your lawyer is charging you for something that a machine can do better?

There are some telltale indications:

1. Four lawyers reviewing a contract, no matter how long the contract is.

2. A twelve to twenty-hour day by a young lawyer drafting and revising a document. Really? Who can even keep track of changes after that much time looking at the same document over and over.

3. The lawyer you hired only looks at a document after it has been through multiple layers of other lawyers.

Sure, sometimes documents are drafted in short periods of time over long hours. Sometimes multiple lawyers have to look at documents to make sure they comply with requirements of specific subject matters of the law. But that should be clear from the bill or easily explained by the lawyer who sends you a bill.

If you don’t know for sure, ask. Ask the lawyer what software they use to be more efficient in document drafting. Better still ask the lawyer if he or she knows what #jEugene is or what it does. If the lawyer cannot tell you. That’s a lawyer you do not want to hire. Simple as that. If you do, you will spend money on stupid shit.

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DON’T SPEND MONEY ON STUPID SHIT PART II: “FREE CONSULTATIONS”

Everybody likes things that are free. Free things often make us happy.

Sometimes free things are valuable to us – sometimes they are junk. Sometimes they actually cost us money and aren’t really free at all.

Free initial consultations offered by lawyers fall into all three categories. Two of the three are spending money on stupid shit. Why? Sometimes spending money on stupid shit comes in the form of receiving something we think is free but really is not free. Take for example the “free initial consultation.” You see nearly every lawyer offer a free initial consultation. Some lawyers actually provide free initial consultations that provide value to their potential client. However, many times what is described as a free initial consultation only provides value to the lawyer.

Let me provide two concrete examples.

First, the contingent fee initial consultation in an injury case. That consultation is not free. Not under any measure. The lawyer uses the initial consultation to evaluate whether the case is one that want to take on an initial basis – intake control and nothing more. If the lawyer decides to take the case on an initial basis at the end of the initial meeting, the client signs a contract entitling the lawyer to a fee even if the client later determines that lawyer is not a lawyer who can provide the services they seek. At the same time the contract signed by the client allows the lawyer to fire the client at any point in the lawyer’s opinion the lawyer’s evaluation of the claim or the likelihood of collection is insufficient to proceed. Some of those contracts go so far as to require the client the pay a fee in the event that a lawyer recommends a settlement and the client rejects the settlement. Is the initial consultation in that case really “free?” Absolutely not. Rather the client has spent money on stupid shit that only provides value to the lawyer.

Second, “free” initial consultations in non-injury cases of really any nature. What do clients actually learn in those consultations? In many cases, not any value whatsoever. Lawyers often use those consultations to evaluate whether the client can afford the lawyer, or whether the fee to be obtained by the lawyer if the lawyer takes the case is significant enough to justify working with a particular client. Again, intake control protecting the lawyer but no real value for the client. Once again time, which is money, spent on stupid shit.

What can a client do? Ask questions. Will the lawyer look at documents and make a recommendation or provide a fee estimate at the end of the consultation? If not – expect to spend money on stupid shit. Will the lawyer evaluate alternatives to using the lawyer that are truly helpful for the client at the initial consultation? Will the lawyer provide fee estimates or flat fee quotes for work to be completed after the initial consultation or at some point shortly after the initial consultation before the client decides the retain the lawyer? If not, you’re probably spending money on stupid shit. Ask clients who have worked with the lawyer in the past what they have experienced. Look at reviews on Facebook, Avvo or the lawyer’s website.

The testimonials we see all too often about how much money a lawyer got for a client are misleading at best. No person receives a significant settlement unless they have suffered real and significant injuries. Testimonials hand selected by a lawyer are of little or no value. They are justifications for the purchase of stupid shit.

Think again about immigrants and the use of lawyers. They are afraid to use lawyers. They understand that nothing of value is free in business and without a clear understanding of what they will receive, they do not hire lawyers. The same thing is true with many other people who many need to consume legal services.

What is the solution? Ask what will happen at the initial consultation. Seek flat fees or not to exceed fees for the actual evaluation of your case. Seek estimates of cost for projects and understand what can lead cost estimates to vary. Use your instinct or “gut” feeling – ask yourself “am I spending money on stupid shit” even if the initial consultation is “free.”

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