#coots raph

[yellowhollyhock]

COOTS Raph vs 2003 Leo

COOTS Raph takes more of a leadership role with his brothers! ... Onstage. He writes the music Mikey writes the words. Also it seems like it was him coming home upset that inspired Master Splinter to pivot from ninja training to music training. He's really at the heart of it all.

And we assume that he can fight. I mean, I gave him high body awareness and high discipline based on his dancing and singing. And they are enemies with Shredder and definitely will still fight if it comes to it. I just don't have much to say about his actual fighting style because,, he's busy putting on a show--

So overall I'd say, well-trained, nice footwork, possibly a little out of practice but definitely still in good shape.

2003 Leo even at his healthiest is like, obsessive about training. I'd say he outranks Raph in terms of discipline, determination, stealth for sure (stealth is definitely the least transferrable skill in Raph's new line of work). From his canon fights we see a great strategic mind that understands opponents' motivations, always ready for the unexpected, that kind of thing. His moves are highly varied. He likes his swords but he has other skills, he can do bare fists and he can also hold people hanging off of buildings. He's great at using his environment.

I have to say something in Raph's favor at least to keep things interesting, and I can say this: Turtle Cage fights are also a performance. Leo has done that kind of thing before, but well he did get poisoned right away. But if he hadn't he would've done a great job. Raph, however, does performance for every day. It's his thing. So there is that to consider.

The COOTS turtles are tough because I do actually think they're good ninjas. It's just, they've pivoted and the others didn't pivot. No matter how great you used to be, it doesn't quite match up with continued daily practice.

2003 Leo came very close to winning last year and he has a competitive streak. He wants this real bad. As for Raph, he got out in Round 1 and he lost to Next Mutation 'You Break The Bricks With Your Will' Leonardo. So uh. He also wants this real bad.

Will Leo get another shot, or does Raph get to redeem himself?

COOTS Raph wins

2003 Leo wins

Voting ended onJun 13

[yellowhollyhock]

Next Mutation Leo vs COOTS Raph

Role flip Leo has been waiting for a chance to bash someone's head all day maybe all week and Raph is gonna watch and wait for his moment

NM Leo,, there is no other turtle like him you guys. How do I explain him. Here's a quote

"You don't break the bricks with your head, you break the bricks with your will" (defending his plan to break the bricks with his head)

"Just try not to land on your heads" (this is his plan to defeat the Shredder)

"I never lie! Never" (is hooked up to a lie detector which immediately dings him)

Very much more of a fight harder than a fight smarter kind of a turtle. Sheer determination has taken him a long way and he continues to favor it. As far as actual fighting, visual gags galore of course, aside from that in universe definitely a powerful ninja. Eager to learn too, he is the only one of his brothers who continues to show an interest in learning from Venus after they save Splinter.

COOTS Raph, like with all his bros, we have to assume is a good fighter based on his dancing and the fact that the city trusts them to be heroes. I feel with them we do also have to assume a bit of rustiness due to spending less time on it, but still.

I also am gonna give him the advantage for levelheadedness and perceptiveness.

Angry Leo or dancer Raph?

NM Leo

COOTS Raph

Voting ended onMay 31, 2025