Another observation I had about Daredevil Born Again:
One thing that adds to the dissonance we feel while watching the show is that Matt Murdock’s life after Foggy’s passing is being made to resemble his old life. Kirsten is the new Foggy (the best friend/law partner), Heather is the new Karen (love interest), and Cherry and BB are both the new Ben Urich (Cherry is the investigator who teams up with Matt, BB is Ben’s niece). The show even tries to replicate the OG show with the new cast, such as Kirsten clashing with Matt over ideals of justice, the stoop kiss with Matt and Heather, and BB investigating Fisk. Also, I’m pretty sure the scene with Matt and Cherry at the docks was framed to resemble the scenes with Ben Urich in season 1.
I don’t think this is Marvel Studios trying to outdo or crap on the OG show. I think this is being done on purpose to make you feel uncomfortable. It’s Daredevil…but it’s not what we’re used to. You see familiar interactions, but it’s not with the characters from the OG series. Everything just feels slightly off, which works because that’s where Matt’s head is at. His whole world crumbled around him which messed him up immensely. Even the OPENING CREDITS were made to resemble the original, but with enough changes that it gives you a different feeling from the OG.
Now that I think about it, this is kind of a clever way of having the audience deal with loss/grief alongside its main hero. The main character having familiar dynamics with the new characters forces you to come to terms with the fact that the OG trio is gone. It feels off because you want these interactions with the old characters. And the opening credits? The OG gives you a feeling of strength and terror while the new one is melancholic and subdued. The new one lost the power and confidence of the original, which works since Matt Murdock is currently at his lowest.
ok obviously dex is v fucked up but i feel bad for him. Vanessa telling him he's "the best" at killing people made him feel so used and manipulated, like that's all he's good for. No one sees his humanity. It actually is v tragic.
Daredevil: Born Again Live Blog - Season 2, Episode 5
Under the cut, as always
5:30 (ish) So, Vanessa just..isn't dead?
This damn show, man.
6:40 BB... Go. This is dangerous for you.
Also, are they setting up a love story between her and Daniel or something?
7:10 (ish) "critical condition," really?
Can't characters just die!?
Like, if they're going to kill her off, they should actually kill her off!
I guess we'll see what they do.
8:17 okay, so that's what the stills i saw were about! A flashback or dream or something.
Make's sense.
8:30 Oh, hey! rabbit in a snowstorm! Aka "rich people art." (My words).
9:23 huh. Okay, that's what they're going with, apparently.
I don't like it.
10:57 i know a lot of y'all like Dex, but I just don't.
11:23 flashbacks! I knew Foggy was only going to appear in flashbacks.
Still trying to pretend he might be alive, but I don't actually think so.
12:16 Having flashbacks with Matt and Foggy is kind of nice, but I've been rewatching the original show lately and this show just doesn't have what the og did. It's missing...A lot.
But the main thing the new show is missing is the heart of the original. And a sensical plot.
12:24 Foggy the Fembot..Where have I heard that before? Comics, maybe?
13:29 hate this Ray dude. As I'm supposed to.
15:00 okay, I feel like we got some "Landman & Zack were shady" in the original show, but they only ever did so much with it. So, I'm curious. What are they doing here?
16:00 CRTPTO? WTF?
This is the worst episode so far. There's no way he would've said that and the writers obviously didn't watch the og show.
People seem so out of character in these flashbacks!
Hell, there are so many references to the original show that its obvious the writers have seen it, but it feels like they decided to rip it to pieces.
It is kind of nice to get more of their time at Landman and Zack, though.
23:27 Why would BB leak that? They'd know it was her because who else would it be?
That doesn't feel out of character, necessarily. But it feels unnecessarily stupid.
I mean, I guess it could have been anyone at the hospital, but the nurses and doctors aren't going to have done that and BB was just there, so..
Does anyone know if BB is in the comics, btw?
23:38 i think this is a journalist but he feels like paparazzi
Oh, shit. Threaten him with the avtf. Not that I'm really surprised.
24:00 CAN'T THEY COMMIT TO KILLING CHARACTERS OFF?
If your going to fridge her, at least stick to doing it!
That's one thing that's really pissing me off this episode. They don't even seem like they're actually going to kill Vanessa off. After everything.
And this next part isn't me ragging on the show, just something I've noticed.
But i think I've mentioned before that I've been rewatching the original show and going from the original back to this one is really causing me to notice how much the characters and actors have aged.
Except for Charlie Cox/Matt Murdock. He doesn't look much different.
But the others.. It's been years since the original show and you can tell.
That's not a bad thing. This show takes place years after the og ended.
It's just a thing I'm noticing.
Okay, I didn't think Bitcoin was even a thing at the time the og show came out, but I looked it up and apparently, it was.
Still just feels...weird. Can't even put into words the reason why, but it does.
I still think it's definitely out of character that they're saying that Vanessa was just trying to hustle someone rich into buying her "Rabbit in a Snowstorm" painting when she first met Fisk.
27:50 oh, shit. Daniel's going to give BB up as the source of the leaks to save his own skin, isn't he?
Or maybe he's just going to end up being killed off, himself. Guess we'll see.
And the random retcon that it was originally "Murdock and Nelson" and later become "Nelson and Murdock" is just stupid.
Like, we already know otherwise and also, that's such a pointless retcon! Like... Why?
Some people seem to really like the new show, but it's not living up to the hype AT ALL. It's all about pointless retcons, shock factor, nostalgia, and nonsensical plot.
29:22 Poor Daniel is terrified. I don't like him because he's a prick, but that doesn't mean I want him dead, either.
Also, i don't get why people love Buck so much? He's just there doing Fisk's dirty work and that's about it. Not that that's really the most important thing, lmao.
I just don't get why certain characters seem to be fandom favorites. Think it's just cause people like white guys a lot, but.. That's a topic for another time.
30:20 (ish) okay, so...they've hired someone to kill Lionel/Ray, right? I'm understanding what just happened correctly? I think so.
30:35 poor Foggy. Saved that dude's life and the dude is still calling him names.
Sort of random, but I miss Claire. They'd probably just ruin her character...
Wait, what?
31:48 (ish)
DID MATT JUST SAY HE KNOWS A NURSE!?
Are they about it bring Claire in!?
I was just thinking about her! As y'all saw!
They probably won't do her character justice, ofc.
32:18 fuck, I love Foggy. And I miss him.
And are they going to bring in Claire or just make a vague reference to her?
Guess we'll see.
I think the most disappointing thing about this show is there was no reason that it had to be this bad. It seems like there were good ideas. There is definitely amazing acting. But they throw in a bunch of other stupid stuff that keeps the show from flourishing. Stuff I already mentioned: pointless retcons, shock factor, nostalgia, and nonsensical plot.
And they didn't have to. This show could be amazing, but the writers and whoever else won't let it. And so it doesn't have the heart that the original does, but I know that it.. It could have. If it was allowed to, if the people in charge wanted it to.
But they just want money, fame and attention.
And no amount of great actors or scenes can change that.
Okay, this alternating scene with Dex and Matt and Foggy and Lionel is actually really good!
And since the show's all nostalgia bait and shit anyway, why don't they bring Foggy back!?
A bunch of the other shit they do doesn't make sense.
35:57 Matt just...leaves?
I want to say that's out of character, but I'm not actually completely sure.
36:21 oh, shit. That's where that money came from!?
BRING BACK FOGGY, YOU COWARDS!!!
37:00 okay, that's actually a great scene...
EXCEPT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE!
Dex has been bleeding out all episode! AND HE JUST GETS UP AND WALKS OUT!?
And Matt's crisis of conscious doesn't feel that believable.
It's Matt. He believes in justice more than he honestly should. I do have to say that my opinion on that might change if I rewatched ddba season 1 but I don't want to. This show isn't worth rewatching to me.
And like, the "celebrating mercy" thing is cool and I like the bits taking place in the past.
But the stuff in the present doesn't make sense.
Dex should have bled out by now. Why tf is he walking!?
37:55 okay, now what's going to happen to Daniel?
Oh, hey he didn't give up BB. So far, anyway.
38:39 did that Lionel dude leave?
39:10 "I'll do anything"
39:47 he left, good. But unfortunately, I don't think he's going to get far.
40:05 and back to that pointless retcon. They'd already decided they were "Nelson and Murdock".
40:38 So, Dex isn't dead.
41:02 and apparently, neither is Vanessa.
This episode is trying to say a lot, but it's also not saying much at all. Not very well, at least.
42:18 oh, SHIT.
Vanessa has amnesia, doesn't she?
42:43 guess not. She knows his name.
42:59 "I've never seen you like this"
Yeah, I don't think anyone has. Dude's crying.
But he thought he lost you so I don't blame him.
Okay, why are they dancing around the fact she almost died?
Like, she keeps being confused why he thought she wasn't going to make it.
Like... How is that confusing?
I mean, she might not remember exactly what happened since she literally just woke up, but... Eh, idk. Just feels weird.
This whole episode just feels off, y'all.
44:20 oh, so he was planning to buy the gallery or something.
45:26 shit, she's not actually going to make it, is she?
He really should have let the nurse look at her.
Yeah, as soon as she started repeating her words, I realized that they were, in fact, going to kill her off. They were just doing it SLOWLY.
I had wondered if that might be the plan, but there are a lot of times where characters seem like are dead when an episode ends and then the next episode comes around and they aren't.
Welp, episodes over and I don't know how I feel.
Just going to go ahead and post this because I don't really have more to say.
daredevil born again liveblog/reaction under the cut uwu (งツ)ว
hbngn im sorry but Matt torpedo-ing this relationship right after being haunted by his ethereal dead wife Foggy Nelson last episode is forcefully reminding me of the current state of stranger things shipping discourse. RIP milkvan and RIP this poor woman's hotass lawyer bf relationship. the fakest fucking "i love you too" ever uttered. my lanta
ummm. i feel like Bastian should look worse? didn't he get his face pummeled by a crazy man within like the past 48 hours??
"our son has problems. i know what to do -- let's give him lethal fists of fury. let's absolutely insist on it"
oooo matt is gonna smell him (Bastian) on Heather isn't he (hannibal brain in overdrive it has effected how i watch all media unfortunately)
O__o oh god maybe not?? he's not gonna have the chance girl you should have made a bathroom excuse & called someone like 10 minutes ago?????
OH MY GOD! oh my god finally!!!!!! i am so sick of hearing and reading "does it even matter that he's blind," YEAH, FREQUENTLY.
"fuck daredevil i hate daredevil" - flat surfaces with important plot stuff on em
LMFAO MICROWAVE PART DEUX Feat. baton
god that was a satisfying noise.
ahh shit matthew they are gonna frame your ass. again! (maybe not he pulled yet another Bats move this episode)
i read an idle fan theory recently suggesting Heather could be this show's version of Typhoid and the hair was enough to sell me on it honestly. but also the whole, everything that just happened there does move things along a little , in that direction,
"MUSE IS DEAD :/" that delivery got me lmao.
him saying your name isnt that weird, doc, your name is all over the office. ijs
I forgot what a joy Vanessa is. “Wilson, I don’t want to watch you run your criminal empire; I want to be a part of your criminal empire. I’m not some trophy wife-- I want to have people killed on my own.” What a strong, independent woman, demanding equality and respect in her relationship. An inspiration to us all.
