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A-T-3 126 Marley Marl Is One Hell Of A Man

Marley Marl catches the ear of WLBS DJ Mr Magic with his mix of Malcom McLaren's Buffalo Gals. Broadcast across the Tri-State area Mr Magic hosted Rap Attack, the first exclusive rap radio show to be aired on a major station. Marley Marl became Mr Magic's on-air assistant/DJ. In 1983 Mr Magic and Marley Marl started the hip-hop collective the Juice Crew, named after one of Mr Magic's aliases, "Sir Juice"

Buffalo Gals mixed by Marley Marl listen out for the intro vocal thanking New York DJs from Carol Williams' Can´t Get Away (From Your Love) (Special Club "Dub" Mix) (A-T-2 150)

Marley Marl's debut production was an answer to fellow Queens residents Run DMC and their hit Sucker MC's for Marl's then girlfriend Dimples D, the record is called Sucker DJs (I Will Survive). Delivering an answer record is the beginning of a pattern. The beat programming on this record is kinda wack (he uses a TR-808, don't blame the 808) and the scratching isn't the best, but I love Dimples D (Crystal Smith). Delivering great lines like "he cuts the record with so much class" of course it was going to be popular with DJs. All the great 'turntablists' use it and so do the shit ones. Marley Marl has used bits of the vocal from this record all through his career, it turns up on Shante records, Shan records, The Uptown Crew kicks it

Sucker DJ's was the first record to be put out on Partytime Records, which was a sub label of Arthur Bakers Streetwise Records. In 1984 Partytime would put out the first Def Jam record. Sucker DJ's didn't do anything in the US upon release, it was released in Europe through Dutch label Injection Disco Dance and comped by High Fashion Music on the, Street Sounds Electro rip off, Scratch Tracks compilation. In 1990 Dutch DJ and remixer Ben Liebrand remixed the track, now shortened to Sucker DJ, by blending it with Hugo Montenegro's I Dream Of Jeannie theme, which I think Afrika Bambaataa used to play at UZN parties. It's very possible Ben Liebrand sequenced Scratch Tracks, anyway, Liebrand's remix was a hit across Europe

Marley Marl's beats would get a lot better, he would follow Trevor Horn's team and sample beats, before any other hip hop producers in the US, so the story goes - didn't it turn up on Eric B for President or something?

His second Juice Crew record will be 1984s Roxanne's Revenge, another answer record this time by 14-year-old battle rapper Roxanne Shante, kicking off the Roxanne Wars

Kool DJ Red Alert (one of the first DJs to play with the Universal Zulu Nation) had a rap radio show on Kiss FM in NYC, it would rival Mr Magic's Rap Attack show starting a beef between the two DJs. Red Alert was down with BDP, Mr Magic with the Juice Crew, and so began The Bridge War

Here's the Suckapella of Dimples D - Sucker DJ's (I Will Survive) which is the best cut on the 12 imo

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Dimples D & Marley Marl | Sucker DJ [Genie Mix] | 1990

Dimples D, whose real name is Crystal Smith, was one of Marley Marl's first successes before his breakthrough on Roxanne Shante's ''Roxanne, Roxanne'' the following year. ''Sucker DJ'' was not a big hit when it first came out in 1983, but charted across Europe in 1990 when this remix that lifts the American sitcom ''I Dream Of Jeannie'' theme song came out.

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Run DMC - Sucker MCs

Hip-hop is such a self-referential kind of genre, but then most genres are. The whole point of a genre, in a lot of ways, is to establish a set of rules, of references that people are expected to know, to get, to understand what's going on. You know, some indie band has two guitar lines intertwining with each other, and they're probably deliberately referencing Television, and they probably expect you to get that on some level. What this means is that a lot of what hip-hop music does goes straight over the heads of the uninitiated, even when those uninitiated really dig it (as we pre-teens did).

This is sort of the way for (the original) 'Sucker D.J.s'. It's pretty much impossible to get what Marley Marl and Dimples D are doing without knowing it's an answer song to Run DMC's 'Sucker MCs'. It's the Frankee to Sucker MCs' Eamon. Marley Marl is basically trying to say here, 'you know what's worse than sucker MCs? Sucker DJs. And you know why they're worse? It's because DJs are more important. Which is why I've got a girl singing this, because I'm such an awesome DJ that it doesn't matter.' (At least, I assume that's why Dimples D is on it - I might be wrong about that kind of sexism, though, you never know)

The other thing with 'Sucker DJ' is that - outside of the I Dream Of Jeannie theme - there's a bunch of samples in it which are used in plenty of other hip-hop. It uses that saxophone squeal from that song by the J.B.'s that you also hear in music by Public Enemy, Eric B & Rakim, 2 Live Crew, and even the Black Eyed Peas. That 'pump pump pump, pump me up' bit at the end of a chorus is a sample from a Sugar Hill group called Trouble Funk. The bit about 'music makes you lose control' is from 'Body Work' by Hot Streak. The sample of 'King Of The Beats' by Mantronix is the same one used in songs by Eric B & Rakim and Ice-T. (Whosampled.com is wonderful).

And, in that age when uncleared sampling was of uncertain legality rather than of definite illegality, the use of these samples was a thing; using a particular sample was meant to communicate a particular thing. (See Christopher Weingarten's 33 1/3 book on Public Enemy's It Takes A Nation Of Millions... - Weingarten almost entirely discusses the meaning of the samples used, and how they put it together, and it's fascinating stuff, albeit fascinating stuff that would have been improved if Weingarten had shown how it fit with the lyrics in more detail).

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Dimples D - Sucker D.J.'s (I Will Survive) (1983)

This is the original version of 'Sucker DJ', minus the 'I Dream Of Jeannie' theme sample - note the plural and dubious punctuation: 'Sucker D.J.'s'. It's fascinating to listen to if you're used to the later version.

For a start, it shows how much hip-hop had changed since 1983. I mean, 'Sucker D.J.'s' is so barebones, so minimalist. It's not much more than Dimples D herself, some scratching, and some beats. There's something attractive about this, some sense of authenticity; you could imagine Dimples D performing it live with Marley Marl programming a TR-808 and doing a little scratching now and then, and it sounding almost identical to the record. 'Sucker DJ', on the other hand, shows the eight years of Marley Marl learning studio skills, mixing skills, etc (he was a big name producer in hip hop at this point, having produced LL Cool J's 'Mama Said Knock You Out'), and eight years of improvement in technology. In some ways, I suspect that's why Marley Marl chose this one to remix - he wanted to show how far he'd come. (edit: the remix was apparently by a Dutch DJ. Ben Liebrand)

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Dimples D - Sucker DJ

Tim Coyle mentioned in the podcast that Dimples D was a rabbit in the headlights in the clip; I don't think she's quite that bad, but she's clearly not quite a music clip natural either.

I do wonder about the circumstances of making the video, though. I mean, this was a song originally recorded in 1983. Dimples D, I guess, recorded that for her friend Marley Marl...and went back to her life. By 1991, was she a mum? Had she settled down? I mean, it's 8 years later, and that's probably what people do by that point (she does have an air of 'mum' about her in the video clip, though maybe it's just my associations with the early 1990s fashion). Maybe she found God, sings in church, and would only do the video if she was allowed to wear the huge crucifix earrings.

I can only imagine that her old mate Marley Marl rang her up one day and said, "hey, did I tell you I did a remix of your song for kicks, did I tell you some Dutch guy did a remix of your song featuring the I Dream Of Jeannie theme as a sample? Anyway, looks like we have a hit in Austria - oh, I mean, Australia. You know, put another shrimp on the barbie! Want to make a cheapie video?"

It must have been a weird conversation for her. Did she say, "yeah sure!" with a sense of nostalgia for the past? Did she still harbor a desire for fame? Did he have to talk her into it? Was she looking in those cameras wondering about whether the babysitter was doing their job properly?

In any case, I hope she got a tour of Australia at some point and got to see a kangaroo or two and hold a koala at some point.

-TB

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Sucker DJs - Dimples D