#dsn speculation

[leofiat-bunny]

Sorry, there are a few split second frames that shouldn't be in here, but I have to actually get up this morning, so this is what you get 🙇‍♀️

Honestly, except for scenes the episode trailers have included, I'm not in the least bit sure what'll happen. But I gave it a stab anyway.

So Leon keeps chasing Pob, which includes giving the cat collar.

Which leads to the 2nd Leo question.

Then Pob approaches Leo directly.

I'm not certain if Leo will speak to Pob before or after Fiat asks about Pob. The reason he goes with "friend of a senior" could be entirely because bringing Leon into a conversation with Fiat isn't exactly Fiat's favourite thing. Plus, "oh the guy Leon has a crush on" could be considered spilling secrets and handing Fiat ammunition (Leo doesn't know Leon's already told Fiat). Dealing with spoiled brats competing for your attention is hard work 😩

But I went with before because... well it works I guess? Possibly just because I've gotten used to thinking of it in that order.

But Fiat gets right on the "plan"... I guess Leon helped him fight past his remaining shyness at least? 😅

He only asks about Pob after they've showered.

Pob updates his cat about how Leon's making him feel.

Fiat tries to upkeep the house. Since there's no maid and he's trying to be a good boyfriend.

Leo finds him struggling with dishes and we get a cute scene.

Then Fiat finds Leo in an apron, since of course Leo doesn't want Fiat to do all the work. And we get another cute scene.

I included an implication of Fiat jumping Leo in school as a continuation of the "plan".

Not sure if the rose if from Leo or for Leo; if they arranged a court date and Leo didn't show or something? At any rate, I think Fiat was waiting for Leo to show when Leon came.

My first feeling is that Fiat would go forward, not run away, when Pob & Leo are "caught". But possibly he'd go forward, have his say, then storm off, ignoring Leo?

Including the Leon & Leo bed scene here is partly because I can't think of a better time to have it. It can lead to Leon explaining... something to Leo, which can lead to LeoFiat resolution, a move intended to earn forgiveness for Leon from viewers?

That resolution includes/leads to a court date to make up for the messy one.

Meanwhile LeonPob go on a kind of date.

And we end on a cute scene just because. 🤷‍♀️

(Of course, it's quite possible the ep will end with the "caught" scene - just like ep 4 ended with the library scene that had been included in the ep trailer.)

I know I said I'd keep putting the girl into the next ep, but I've changed my mind. I think she'll get an ep to herself eventually.

So I think future eps will include

parents return (prob ep 6)

curly hair (ep 7? We have a fair amount of preview, and the bulk of time in the early previews belong to earlier eps. Family drama seems likely to be the finale.)

Fiat family drama (ep 10-12)

girl (ep 9? We're running out of eps, but it could be a light ep before the big ones)

Pob's deal (side story through ep 10-12 to maximise the ep 11 effect - this will include his crying scene)

sleepover & fancy do (ep 10 as part of the run up? ep 12 as part of the wrap up?)

winning basketball (ep 12 as part of the wrap up... just realised we don't see LeonPob in the stands 🤔)

I realise I'm missing an ep.

(Watch her scenes be in ep 5 now. 😅)

As for ep 6

I'd promise to get this done earlier for next week, but I'm not even going to get to watch the ep on laptop until Monday afternoon, so I am very deliberately not promising any such thing.

I will try.

[leofiat-bunny]

Don't Say No Current Understanding

Ep 1 2021/08/06; available on LINE TV at 23:50 Thai time (16:50 UTC); weekly episodes

We don't know how many episodes so I'm working with the presumption of 12 episodes, each 45 minute, followed by a longer, stand alone, paid episode, exactly like TTTS S1 and S2.

The main couple is LeoFiat (🤯) and the secondary couple is LeonPob.

The inciting incident is LeoFiat getting together - more specifically, the university finding out about it. This leads to a group of plotlines, some of which will be resolved fairly early, and some which will follow through to the last episode.

These include:

1. Leo's mother being a queen 👑 and a goddess 🙇‍♀️ (and awesome mother/mother figure to Leo, Fiat, Leon, and Pob... and probably any other kid she comes across)

2. LeoFiat navigating their new relationship

3. A mystery Pob & Leo plotline - possibly only a micro plot to kick off:

4. LeonPob (this will result in a single "innocent" love scene)

The pictures distributed through uni and sent to the family homes of Leo and Fiat leading to:

5. Slutshaming in university

6. Leo dealing with his jealousy, involving the conversation in the car (which goes badly) and then the talk in the rain (much better)

7. Finding out and responding to the person who sent the pictures - with all the other stuff, this probably is that one guy in the trailer, not an actual mystery

8. Flashbacks scenes - possibly an exploration of how Fiat started seeing guys (rather than just waiting for Leo to make a move); probably includes Leo "encouraging" Fiat, which probably leads to the drunk bar scene and that trailer guy again

9. Fiat's dad getting the pictures and an exploration of his home life, including his dad saying "What parents in their right minds would let their son be with you?", and us meeting his mother and half-sister

10. Leo's parents may never see the pictures but they become aware of them and prove Fiat's dad wrong

Regarding the LeonPob storyline:

Current theory is: after Leon talks to Fiat in the library, Fiat has him try to get close to Pob and find out his plan. He might even encourage Leon to try flirting and redirect Pob's attention, but I'm currently leaning towards him not.

Either way, Leon ends up with a crush and starts trying to actually pursue Pob. It's rather KongArt or MarkKit, except Leon might not even realise what he's doing.

LeonPob will have a decent amount of screentime [James (Pob) is the actor Smart (Leon) worked with most]

So stuff actually happens! 🎉

This to a back drop of friendships and comedy scenes. And so far that "comedy" appears to not be a threat! I've actually been entertained by it. 😮

Friendships of particular note:

1. Leon & Leo & Fiat - after my queen and LeoFiat this is what I'm most looking forward to

2. Fiat & Seng & Puth

3. Fiat & Beam

4. Leo & Chai

Ex-Theories

[For entertainment, to clear things up, and to show the above is not definite by any means]

1. Leon being a bad guy [he's actually a sweetheart]

2. LeonFiat being a thing that happened [doesn't fit their relationship but, more importantly: the trailer shows Leon's hand on someone's waist and we never actually see anything consensual happen between the non-otps. They close doors and fade to black right away. The most we see is Fiat in TTTS S2 playing with the guy's hand. So the waist should be Pob's]

3. The secondary pairing being ChaiJames [it's SmartJames; we still know nothing about Chai's role]

[leofiat-bunny]

So, now we've seen the trailer, let's look at the cast list again

1st: they've officially told us that Smart's character has a crush on Fiat, so that's not a twist... could well be a twist that he's evil of course.

2nd: names

I tried to recreate the names in the pictures and put them through google; results included below, numbered left-to-right, top-to-bottom

I included Leo and Fiat as kind of test cases

Probably best I stick to the actors until the inevitable mistakes are corrected though. 😅

So what do they do in the trailer? And who's missing?

1. Smart is our potential Lhong, telling Fiat James (Pob) wants to steal Leo

2. James is Pob, seeking Leo's help with something, and either he doesn't like Smart or he's generally pretty rude or EXTREMELY shy (leaning towards the 1st option - and only somewhat shy). Later in the trailer he's the one asking Leo why he hurt himself by setting Fiat up with another guy

4 & 5. Seng & Puth give Fiat the sex toy

6. Beam wishes Fiat well (and jinxes them 😅)

7. Rin, who I think might be Fiat's half sister?, is the one telling Leo he knows who was most hurt by "that incident"

Not listed

Leo's brother(?) - the one who hands over the pictures; guessing he's just a small role, possibly even just the one scene

The girl who's eager to break up LeoFiat, and the girl she's talking to are listed. Pretty sure the latter is another mini-role, as for the former: our other official villain isn't included either, so I'm guessing they listed our official protagonists only ("official" as in pre- any sort of twist)

Speaking of him... yeah not a protagonist

Rick returns from TTTS S2, which makes me happy. Both for continuity's sake and because I like him. Pity he's not in the cast list though

No appearance

3. Chai doesn't show up in the trailer. I now think he's Leo's senior and Pob's love interest

Side note: "How do you feel when you see me sleep with someone else" - the present tense indicates to me we might get a good chunk of flashback, not just the montage

(Edited to fix mistake)

[leofiat-bunny]

Hii, it’s me again! I’m glad you don’t mind me possibly blowing up your inbox dhdhd I would definitely love to join the discord when the show airs cause I’ll have more time to interact with everyone then! Also I actually rewatched the trailer and have to agree with your theory; pob’s mannerism is a bit odd for someone with a crush, he seems more curious abt leo in a collecting info way than in a love struck way I’m starting to question wether or not he’s investigating Leo for someone else 🤔 ++

Part 2:

The way he reacted to Leon saying Leo is kind in surprise felt like he was assuming Leo wasn’t nice (based on someone else’s words maybe)? Logically someone with a crush would pay attention to said person and observe them enough to know wether or not they’re a kind person? I’m not sure if I’m just looking too deep into that dialogue but yeah definitely sense something fishy in that storyline!

Hiii 💕☺️

You'll have more time when the show airs? That's great timing, well done 😉

I look forward to seeing you then 😄

Good point on the "collecting info"!

At first I thought he was seeking confirmation "Leo's kind right?" before he sought Leo for help with... something. I have **no idea** what Leo - specifically Leo, not Leo or someone else - could help with.

But if he'd been told he wasn't kind... did Pob help someone anti-Leo and now regrets it and is trying to figure out if he dare approach Leo and tell him?

It doesn't feel quite right but maybe something on those lines? 🤔

🤷‍♀️ I don't know 🤷‍♀️ (my tag line, I'm getting fond of it 😄)

Thank you for asking

🐰

[leofiat-bunny]

Pob & Leo

I continue to be on my "Pob doesn't have a crush on Leo" train, and have new theories wrt what's going on.

But let's say for a moment he does:

he was very judgey of Leon having casual relationships, "don't be a player", "the result of committing sins"

from what we've seen, he's not inordinately hypocritical

That is not someone who would try to break up a relationship.

(That's quite apart from it not even being a vague possibility to Leo.)

(Also, "what's he like?" and "is he kind?" are peculiar first choices for questions about someone you have a crush on.)

Anyway, back to my new theories.

So, Pob has social anxiety.

a. He doesn't know how to talk to Leon, but after talking about his cat, he wants to try to reciprocate. He's not about to ask about Leon's lovers... but his brother! He seems fond of him on the phone. So he asks about him. And Leon rejects the opener. (And yes, a question of "why do you ask?" can totally feel like a rejection.)

In ep 5, Leon gives him a cat collar and Pob tries again. And is rejected again, more so than last time. So he seeks help. From Leo.

b. School work! He's had a chat with his professor about his thesis and he could use the help of another student, one in Leo's faculty.

Except he's scared to approach anyone. Then Leo calls Leon and that's perfect! He's well known as being intelligent and polite, and Leon might be able to make the introduction! Or at least reassure Pob that asking wouldn't go amis.

Except his 2 attempts to bring it up were disasterous, so he'll have to approach Leo directly.

(I haven't forgotten that Leo's a year younger than Pob, but Pob might not need someone with a senior's level of knowledge on the topic, and the seniors will be busy with their own theses anyway.)

Okay, but both theories bring the same issues:

why smile when seeing Leo?

why the picture on his phone?

1: because he thought of Leon and that made him smile.

2: Phone, case, and ground all match, so it's not evil editing where that's not even Pob's hands and phone.

My first thought was to make sure he got the right complete stranger before he tries talking to him.

Sound ridiculous when he's recognised Leo before? Everytime I leave a shop - even when I haven't touched anything - I worry the theft detection system will go off. Anxiety IS ridiculous.

Then I took a better look at the photo in question:

You'd go for face-forward if that were the reason. However, that background - maybe that's something? If it were somewhere recognisable?

Yeah, that one's grasping at straws. I just genuinely think we're being tricked.

... this is where it turns out we are, but this isn't how 😅