#edeigard discourse

[butwhatifidothis]

Miscellaneous EdeIstan Takes Debunked by EdeIgard

"EdeIgard would have stopped Nemesis! She would have hated him!"

"EdeIgard didn't want to kill Rhea! She just wanted her to surrender, Rhea forced her hand!"

"EdeIgard isn't racist! She just hates Rhea for what she's done!"

(and featuring our guest star, Hubert!)

"EdeIgard started her war for the people!"

"EdeIgard tries to spare everyone she faces!"

"CF is about fighting fate!"

[butwhatifidothis]

It's so baffling that Edelgard - or more, her stans - try to say that Faerghus separating from Adrestia was a plot from Rhea to gain control of Fodlan, when, like... the people of the north were literally being fed to wild beasts for Adrestian nobles' entertainment. And this had been going on since at least the fourth Emperor's time.

Like they were literally poppin' bubblies to the horrified and desperate screams of northerners as they were torn apart by animals. Like uh yeah maybe the people of the north, like. Didn't appreciate that bit of history (if it'd even stopped by Loog's time). And so wanted to bounce. Like I'm just sayin' it's not an impossibility that that was at least part of the reason Loog wanted independence.

Makes sense why Edelgard never brings it up seeing how it'd kinda ruin her speech about Church Bad if she included this detail in it. But edelstans doing it too is double hilarious because they point to the Church disallowing certain texts within the library as proof of the Church's evil, but guess which is one of two known texts in the game that has Seteth's signature on it showing that?

One of the pieces of evidence for peeps saying that the Church is bad also shows that Adrestia used to partake in the noble enjoyment of the violent maiming of northerners. Never seem to mention THAT part of the deal lmao

[butwhatifidothis]

Christ on a bike. I use the “at least she admits she’s doing bad” as a running gag for my Tabaxi rogue when I play D&D with my friends. I can’t believe people are using it unironically for Supreme Leader.

And it's like, admitting that your actions were wrong... is a good thing! It shows a level of self-awareness that indicates the ability to do better! It's a crucial step in a character's redemption of said bad actions!

But, like... it's only as good a thing to have in a character if that character then, like... stops? Doing the thing they acknowledge as bad? Because if they don't then they come across as uhhh... more evil. Because they are aware of how horrible their actions are, and just. Keep doing them anyway.

Like! Oh good for Edelgard, she says that she'll take out TWS for all that they've done to people, she says that she wouldn't work with them had she known of all that they'd do (meaning! That what they did is WORTHY of disconnecting from them!), she says that she'd fighting for the weak, she says all the nicey-nice words that sound nice.

But like. She keeps working with TWS. And covers for them. And gets powerful weapons from them. And gives powerful weapons to them. And does know of all that they're doing and yet continues her allyship with them. And it's only after she's wrung all use out of them that she does anything about them, and not, like... when they were murdering everyone, including her own people. And she didn't stop them from doing that not because she was, like, forced to or anything, but literally because she wanted to use them for her own ends.

And she like. Sacrifices her citizens. Sometimes horrifically, like Remire, and sometimes by her lil' ol' lonesome like when she hides behind her people in Enbarr. And again, never forced to do any of this whatsoever; it's her active and willful choices that caused these things to happen.

SERIOUSLY MAN like a character who's written to acknowledge this sort of shit as evil and yet keeps doing it anyway because it benefits them isn't the win people think it is for the ~righteousness~ of Edelgard's character. If she only stops performing an evil action (siding with and directly helping TWS) so that she can do ANOTHER evil action (imperialistically and tyrannically rule over Fodlan through military force) then guess what!! She's just evil!!