#fangbone headcanon

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what is your option or headcanon based on how fangbone acts during 'the house of leaving' episode?? :o

Here’s some of my thoughts about it. 

So with the basis of Hovelfroth being when a barbarian staying inside for too long and goes crazy, what I headcanon is that it also has something to do with the willingness of the barbarian to stay indoors, what they are feeling, the buildup of negative emotions, and how stimulating the environment they are in is. 

Stoneback was stuck in the cave to avoid those stones and was devoid of mental stimulation and Fangbone had already planned to go hunting at the petting zoo but Bill(unknowingly though I kinda have doubts about it) guilt tripped him into staying for hours to watch a movie marathon. Both barbarian really didn’t want to stay inside and they were stuck for a long time. With Fangbone, he’s semi used to staying indoors for a period of time and it’s the knowledge that he can leave that allows him to cope with it better in my opinion. I think factors such as sleeping, a stimulating and engaging environment, also how big the enclosure is also helps combat/slowdown Hovelfroth.

When you are asleep you are able to pass the time. When you’re in a stimulating and engaging environment, you are more distracted and can think past certain things. Fangbone only really paid attention to what Bill said and you can’t honestly tell me he really paid attention to the movie. He was twitching and looking at that clock waiting to get out so he was not 100% focused. If you are in a big area with space, you would feel less trapped than in a smaller area. Hovelfroth rapidly increased when Drool made the enclosure smaller and made Fangbone more feral. You could argue that it was heading that way and it was but it would have taken a little bit longer. 

I think if Fangbone was actually in the mood to do a movie marathon, the symptoms of Hovelfroth would take a bit longer to hit him. It would still happened but it would take longer because he would be engaged and his mind would be more focused. 

And even though Fangbone is somewhat used to the indoors in his cave,school, and other places, he still regularly spends a lot of time outdoors and has a lot of breaks. We have seen him go to recess, jump out the window of the school in the second Fred Bone appearance, and just be outside a lot. I do think that Fangbone has/is building a delayed effect of Hovelfroth since I think he spends a lot of time indoors compared to other barbarians. 

Lowkey I think all barbarians are slightly claustrophobic and scared of being trapped in something they cannot escape. Also with one of their official languages being Wolf, it’s understandable that Hovelfroth makes them act very feral if you think about how a wild animal acts in a cage versus a barbarian whose stuck indoors for a long time.

Also I think Hovelfroth manifested as a need for some personal time away from Bill. Fangbone said they spent the whole moon cycle together which I’m taking that to mean a month and not day.  No personal time to really do the activities he likes. I mean he does stuff he likes with Bill but that’s more of a ‘they both like it’ rather than an ‘only he likes it’ thing. Bill doesn’t really like hunting animals like Fangbone does. So it makes sense that he wouldn’t be doing that activity with him or at least a lot. Also with Drool’s constant attacks and school work, Fangbone doesn’t really have a lot of time to care about stuff he likes. It’s also not healthy to spend every waking moment with someone even if they are your closest friend.

Anyways that all I have for now. I didn’t want to overload this with all the bits and pieces I have.

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Another screenshot edit :D *does a little spin*

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Fangbone Head-canons cus yes.

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Thoughts on the episode “the drool of young”? I could say so much but my main thing is how like. It could have worked if they just did what patty was doing!

(sorry in advance for the long post. I don’t know how to do the continue reading button thing on my phone)

So I rewatched the episode and I do agree that they probably should have told the truth and done basically what Patty had said from the start. Or they could have destroyed him like Twinklestick suggested. Either way it would have worked. I’m just saying. It’s not like Fangbone and Bill haven’t caught a body before. And Fangbone was more than willingly to do the job. 

However, it’s completely understandable why Bill went the route that he did. 

This is the evil wizard(whose been trying to kill them since he first met them and all barbarians)’s younger self.

Fear for this guy’s abilities if he gets angry or provoked. (We see how he uses his powers as an adult and he is able to use his powers when young so whose to say he’s not able to do the stuff he is going to do in the future but on a smaller scale?)

If they are nice to him then it should help save the world by making his future self nice too. Doing anything to make D-rool feel any other emotion that is not positive could possibly set him off. 

One thing I will say that would have immensely helped in making D-rool not become evil is if any one of them actually talked to D-rool about stuff and got to actually know him. Like when Patty told him that his pranks weren’t funny if he was the only person laughing, he says that he would lay off the pranks and she was very surprised by it. My thoughts on this moment is that everyone even Patty is still kinda seeing D-rool as the person he’s going to be in the future and not the one in the moment being the innocent ish person that he is despite acting like a jerk. D-rool doesn’t know too much on how his behavior is being a lot and not welcomed because Bill keeps enabling and somewhat encouraging him and the others all kinda unenthusiastic parroting Bill except for Patty. Bill, the person who is arguably the closest to D-rool, doesn’t think to ask D-rool about himself only focusing on maintaining this charade and actively preventing the future from happening. This is not sustainable because one day he’s going to slip and cause the spiral into evil like we saw in the dance. Also Drool planted that seed of doubt in D-rool’s head so I do think if he didn’t find out during the dance then he would have found out about the lies eventually.  Bill’s approach to D-rool is reacting more in the moment then actually planning ahead to better maintain everything. This part is something I need to think over because I’m trying to think deeper into Bill’s personality and based on everything I remember, this is inline with his past actions. It makes sense if you think of this like a battle’s he and Fangbone have because Bill often has to think on the fly and D-rool is arguably a threat. I don’t think he’s ever really planned for an extended future in the show or books with the exception of the bribe bag in the finale. They are still kids though so I’m probably thinking way to deep into this. 

D-rool never had any friends so he thinks that what he’s doing is right and no one else but Patty corrects him. Like he is bad but is oblivious to it, but if no one else helps to even mention it then they are just as bad as they think he’s being. 

Also this episode happen before the Breaker of Oath’s one and that was the episode where Drool’s backstory was revealed. In that episode, Bill felt more sympathetic for Drool and I think if he had known about that then he wouldn’t have acted so fake friendly. I think he would have been more genuine about being D-rool’s friend while still lying but I think Bill talking to everyone at the dance to convince them to keep pretending would be a little different. 

I’ll be honest and say that this is one of the top 3 episodes that I have a hard time watching back. I think it’s partly because of Bill desperately trying to appease D-rool so he wouldn’t be evil. I do think it’s funny in an ironic way that Bill who’s trying his damnest to prevent D-rool from becoming evil and keep him alive is responsible for Drool remaining evil and alive. Despite this episode being a hard watch for me, it is one of my favorite Patty-centric episodes. It also makes me wish we had more episodes and that we got a Groundhog Day style episode with Bill or even with Fangbone and their other classmates. 

With this episode, I can not really blame Bill for how he chose to deal with the situation as he is a kid and dealing with a legitimate threat. Lets not mince words here, D-rool from everyone’s point of view (even Patty) is a threat mainly because of his future self’s actions and how he currently acts does not help his case. But because of this, I have to commend Patty for being the brave one who took it upon herself to do the right thing, call out D-rool’s behavior when it got bad, and tried to teach him how to be a good friend/decent person. It’s not easy trying to show the right way when everyone else kinda enables it(Fangbone doesn’t count necessarily here since he genuinely wants to kill D-rool but Patty and mostly Bill keep preventing him. I got to applaud Fangbone for holding back at some of those moments.)

Also Patty looking sad at D-rool turning evil and also revealing that she was(even if she didn’t want to) in on it was so well animated. Some of the budget had to have gone in that shot. Thought it was interesting to bring up.

This episode also helps develop Patty more into a character. We see more of her personality and genuineness. I think she is probably the fourth most fleshed out character but I could be biased.

Honestly it would have been a kindness to destroy him with the pillow filled with doorknobs shaped like knives. Like if this was a genuine timeloop then Bill would have cemented D-rool into becoming evil if it were not for Patty. 

Also I feel like D-rool liked Patty not only because of her personality and the way she stood up to him but because it was Patty’s glitter and art stuff on the toe was what made Drool feel goodness in his body which is the whole reason why D-rool is even existing in the future technically.

I think this episode also highlights a character flaw in Bill. And that’s going to be his lying to protect himself and the greater good which ultimately backfires on him in the end. I can’t exactly say if the amount of lying that Bill does is enough to count as a character flaw but we do have two full parts of episodes (Drool of Young and The Hound Of Hounding) that showcase Bill’s lying at the focal point and I do think his trickery with lies throughout the show still apply to some level. There are circumstances within each episode that help the lying not seem like an insane thing to do because I feel like a lot of people would do the same thing Bill does in those two episodes but I do think it’s something to think about. Please do take everything I say regarding Bill with a grain of salt because it’s been a hot minute since I’ve been Bill’s age so I’m not 100% sure and I most definitely can be wrong. 

With everything said, I think this episode should have been a two parter or just a straight 22 minutes episode. It would help expand the school lore, develop everyone’s characters, and truly show the stress everyone’s feelings with the knowledge of the situation they’re in. I think if there was more to this episode then this would have been a great mid-season finale or a season one finale if there were more episodes of Fangbone. (Mainly because school events specifically dances are kinda a big thing on shows and something happens in them that helps end the season or midseason. I could just be insane or wrong though) 

Random thought but D-rool kinda reminds me of those young kids who are kind of entitled and rude because their parents aren’t attentive or actually parenting them and they think that their actions are ok.

These were all the thoughts I could muster about the episode.

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Random Fangbone! stuff I think about. Feel free to ask me to elaborate on anything. (Part 4/???????)

Fangbone and Bill with that one clingyduo quote. Bill: What am I without you?

Fangbone: Yourself. (say what you will about the dsmp but they had some banger quotes)

Fangbone and Bill with that one animation meme where the characters laying down with their heads close but on opposite sides and one is leaving and the other one doesn’t want them too???? For the life of me I don’t remember the name but it’s both in Russian and Spanish.

Will as a cult leader.

Will and Bill but singing the song Confrontation from Jekyll and Hyde musical(?).

Thinking of Bill and Fangbone angst.

Bill doing crimes when he gets older because lowkey he kinda a menace and I feel like he’d become slightly overconfident in his abilities but he has a good reason too.

Patty and Eddie being cousins and Cid trying their best to get close to Patty so they teach Eddie some of their skills to try and get close to her.

Will and Toofbreaker doing random stuff and the woods and when they see each other, they greet the other by their name only and then proceed with what they were doing. (The scene from Haunted Hotel where Abaddon and Esther cross paths in the woods doing their own thing but greet each other by their first name. It’s the zombie pretend dad episode with Aunt Rose.)

Fangbone and Cid as not exactly close friends but have an acknowledgment thing going on. It’s a respect thing where they each are never going to fully change but they both care about Bill and know the other one is good at what they do type stuff. (I plan to showcase this in another fic I plan on writing with one of the other ideas I put here. You can guess which one if you want.)

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Random Fangbone! stuff I think about. Feel free to ask me to elaborate on anything. (Part 1/???????)

Cid being a she/they nonbinary person who got top surgery. (Inspired by how my favorite artist portrays Luz from the Owl House)

Borb and Toofbreaker having a crush on Patty. Borb more so than Toofbreaker.

Fred Bone having a legitimate social life that the other members of the quartet are always surprised by it even though he’s told them multiple times.

Borb- he becomes a wizard. He has the orange hair and is a mix of Drool and Bill, who were both wizards, so double whammy. 

Fred Bone- makes money off his art. 

Borb and Will hanging out in complete silence. Borb is just laying on the couch playing on a Switch or another handheld gaming console and Will is laying on the other side watching a show. Occasionally they say something like “did you see that crap?” But otherwise they don’t speak because they’ll get upset and try to fight each other.

Selena being more into survival wilderness and possibly trans.

In terms of the copycat Fangbone and Bill duos, the easiest to think about are Fred Bone with Borb and Will with Toofbreaker.

Borb finds it easier to hangout with Fred Bone. Will is pretty chill with Toofbreaker for the most part.

Eddy and Patty being cousins.

Bill hiding his stuff in Cavebania.

Borb and Toofbreaker finding it hard to connect to each other as siblings. They feel estranged even when they are close. Like their days are numbered. Feeling like someone you used to know and like you don’t know them at all. Growing apart type feels.

Will having all of Bill’s memories and missing his mom knowing that she doesn’t know he exists and he won’t have her food again.

Will pretending to be Bill to sneak inside his house and lying to his mom saying he’s cosplaying. Borb doing the same thing but it works only on Halloween.

the doppelgängers quartet sneaking into Bill’s house to play video games.

Thinking about how Grom and Morg are similar to Primus and Unicron from Transformers.

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Random Fangbone! stuff I think about. Feel free to ask me to elaborate on anything. (Part 2/???????)

Cid/Patty/Borb love triangle. End game would definitely be Cid/Patty but Borb and Cid have a fun dynamic.

Bill trapped in a time loop on the day before Fangbone is set to return to Skullbania and almost desperately tries to get out of the time loop while simultaneously not wanting Fangbone to leave. He’s mentioned he’s stuck in a time loop and Fangbone(he is not experiencing the time loop), confused, tries to help him to no success. Turns out it was Bill’s wizard powers that made the loop because he wish the day would never end or something.

Fangbone trapped in a time loop the day before he is supposed to return to Skullbania. Tries to get out and grows increasingly paranoid and cold towards people. Tries to get help from Bill who somewhat believes him(it takes a lot of loops for Fangbone to convince him right away about the time loops). Fangbone really wants to get out of this time loop. Feels like he’s caged. Seeing how weird and aggressive Fangbone became after yesterday(Bill is not experiencing the loop), Bill talks to him about taking a minute and enjoying the time he has to spend with him before he leaves for Skullbania and using these loops to do stuff he didn’t get the chance too. Turns out it’s Bill’s powers that are at fault. Fangbone feels alot of emotions. He doesn’t want to leave Bill but he also wants to go back home to Skullbania. He noticeably gets very very stressed about it.

(Really both time loop scenarios are filled with complex emotions and characters analysis that I’m not sure I’m truly capable of explaining)

Thinking about the same funny situations and how Fangbone and Bill would each react to them separately and how Bill and Fangbone would react to them reacting. So like if something happened to Bill and Fangbone then drops that Skullbanian wisdom or something happened to Fangbone and Bill pulls out that Earth wisdom but for the same situation. For example, someone kissing on tv and Bill covers Fangbone’s eyes or Fangbone covers Bill’s eyes instead. Another example is the time loop situation mentioned above. (I hope this makes sense. It’s 3 am for me right now.)

Thinking about the show and Bill’s character development. It’s believable to me that Bill would do something to make Fangbone stay on Earth forever with him if he didn’t end up inevitably feeling guilty about it. Like my guy will do what he has to do and lie about stuff.

Seems like Grom is something of a trickster and how that can relate back to the Shadowsteppers.

Some Skullbania/Earth Prom stuff: Specifically Borb having a nice suit that Fred Bone helped him pick. Cid wearing a nice dress or suit. Will chooses not to put on a fancy suit despite Fred Bone insisting that he does. Toofbreaker putting on a Tie but still has his usual outfit on. Patty, Stacy, and Fred Bone being on the Prom Committee.

Fangbone getting a Nokia phone.

Thinking constantly about if this is canon compliant or if it’s in this character to do this action. (Lowkey gets me stressed)