The whole interview is worth watching, but especially her answer to the question of whether Israel dragged the US into the war!
A (rough) transcript:
There's been this convergence of discourse between the far right, [. . .] and on the other hand you have liberals like John Mearsheimer saying this as well, and then you have the Democrats also coming out and saying this, [. . .] that Israel has dragged the United States into this war. And specifically, officials from the intelligence apparatus including Kent and including Sullivan—opposing political parties in the united states—both said that [US]American intelligence officials uniformly told Trump and his administration that this war is a bad idea and that Iran is not a serious threat to the United States or US interests, and it was Kushner and Netanyahu—and I think possibily also Witkoffthat—dragged the US into this war. That is the dominant discourse right now across the political spectrum in the United States basically. [. . .] So why is everybody saying all this stuff in the United States? Why is there this discursive convergence? It's a convergence of interest, because what the MAGA people, and the liberals, and the Democrats, and the Republicans all have in common is their commitment to US imperialism. They have differences of what needs to be done to preserve it—tactical differences, even strategic differences—but they all believe in the project. And the purpose of a proxy like Israel is plausible deniability! If you can blame the proxy for the dirty work, if the proxy is the one that committed the genocide, the United States wasn't involved. Right, that's the whole purpose of a proxy! That's what happened in the contra war in Nicaragua, the United States consistently said, "we didn't do all that, we didn't behead people and drop them in volcanoes—that was the contras." Well that's precisely what's happening now, so anybody who continues to advance this discourse that zionism and imperialism are not flip sides of the same coin and part of the same project, they are reflecting a commitment to the US imperialist project. In the 80s it was the contras, to-day it's the zionists and you know many others, and tomorrow it'll be somebody else. Unless you address the primary contradiction creating the majority of the violence in the world, the most violence in world history, and that primary contradiction is US imperialism. It is not zionists. Zionists are a tool to perpetuate and advance US imperialism, but it is US imperialism that is the primary contradiction in the world today.
