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I like forcing people to watch Generation Loss with me, but one problem they tend to have is that they don't have any background knowledge on the content creators involved (when I watched it I only knew about some of the content creators from the DSMP and in Sneeg's case, Origins SMP, and I still don't know much about a few of them. But I started talking about GL Nikki and how her being meant to represent Nikki's lived experience as a content creator online also probably unintentionally doubled as a commentary on how female characters are treated in media and by fandom spaces and it got me thinking:

Can the death of the author be applied to GenLoss? Not in a "I'm going to pretend Hatsune Miku wrote har/ry pot/ter" way to alleviate guilt (from what I've seen, Ranboo is a pretty based person) but in a, "can this piece of media be analyzed outside of the author's direct intent?" Way? Could someone who's never watched Ranboo enjoy Generation Loss as a story about someone named Ranboo and still get something out of it? What does the mask mean to someone who's never learned why the mask is significant to the content creator the character is based on? Can someone who's never heard of the bullshit Nikki was put through still get something interesting out of her character like with the aforementioned parallels I noticed with how female characters are perceived in general?

I feel like maybe you'd have to know a little bit about Ranboo's LGBTQ + identity to see them leaving out that Ranboo is Enby and Gay completely because he's the Main Character and that can't be outside of the cis/straight default! But that only really effects the character analysis of how GL Ranboo is treated and they would still probably be able to see the implicit homophobia in how Showfall treats gay men as jokes like with Sneeg relationship with Frank and Austin's whole, gay guy trying to pretend he's straight thing. But once it's revealed that the whole thing was a show and how Austin's "joke" status continues even when he's the only person who gives a damn about being murdered they might be able see that commentary.

I kind of want to make an assignment that's just, "watch Generation Loss and try to analyze it as deeply as you can without researching the people behind the project, and then tell me what you think it means." Because I'm so interested in what the answers would be.

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gl!niki is such an interesting character. the implications behind her repeating "im nice" so she wont die, and it genuinely working, until she gets killed and discarded like a background character. like she was the butt of the joke. like her, the nice girl, the pliant one, dying in such a uneventful way, was the gag in itself.

and the thing is that it's not a lie. none of the characters care. she's forgotten the moment she's off-screen, and the audience moves on. she was only there to play into the "fridging" trope and nothing else.

kinda like how niki's characters are either hated or used as stepping stones. kinda like how no one can bother to describe her beyond "she's nice." kinda like how, the moment another content creator starts to stream, they click off in favor of watching someone else.

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I need to know,

Was I the only person who was thinking during the last episode of generation loss thinking, " This isn't the end, also long as we are watching the show will go on. "

Or am I just a tab bit insane?

NO YOURE RIGHT I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING BECAUSE LIKE;

Generation Loss (Gen 1), to me at least, was about the effect of an audience, what sort of things happen when suddenly a mass of eyes flock towards a person so suddenly, its so prevalent throughout.

It's a commentary on the media industry and how its focus seems to be ONLY the audience, not its creators. They don't have any problems torturing their subjects, forcing filters and inhibitions to act on a democratic whim, just so they can have an audience. But the audience is not exempt from being used by the industry either. The audience is a part of the social experiment, we are just as much the lab rats as the streamers are.

The ending of the 3rd episode brought that home for me because literally the audience is a perpetrator and witness to a poor guy's death. It's what the audience chose to do when they cant look away. It's what the audience will ruminate on as the credits roll with his dead body being zoomed away from. They can't stop seeing the corpse, the camera won't let them all the way until the end.

All the glitches into the "reality" were intentional otherwise the cameras would've panned away, cut to a technical diffulties break. But no, they showed the blood in Charlie's gut for a split second, they showed the characters freezing on hold as Sneeg is being reset.

The audience can't help but watch a comedy and a tragedy. So the show goes on with that in mind. They want the audience to laugh at the bits and jokes, they want us to cry and plead when our favourite character is threatened. The audience gives Showfall Media power when they react, when they give their eyes where they shouldn't be.

The only way it ends is when people look away, but Showfall Media won't let that happen.

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generation loss generation 2 playlist analysis !!

hello !! this is my first actual post so sorry if there's any weird formatting ! i have not seen anyone analyze ranboo's playlist for generation 2 yet so i figured i'd fill the gap !!

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Out of all the themes and messages that surrounded Generation Loss, the theory I can never fully immerse myself in is the one about the dehumanization of content creators. Don’t get me wrong. I’m well aware of its confirmation and canonization by Ranboo and other cast members, and I don’t think that anyone who believes or enjoys this concept is wrong for doing so. What am I, a hypocrite lmao? No, it’s that for me personally, it’s hard to view Genloss in that context without feeling weird, I guess. Here, let me give you an example:

Let’s look at the character of Sneeg in this mindset, since we have two episodes' worth of content from him to analyze. Right as he’s introduced, we learn Sneeg tried to complete Slime’s trials, failed, and was stuck in a cage while not being particularly angry about it. It's as if it’s understandable that he’s trapped, that it was his fault, and he knows it. And then, for the rest of the series, he acts as Ranboo’s funny sidekick, doing everything he can to get Ranboo, not himself, to the end. The only time Sneeg’s character shows any agency for himself is in episode 2, when he’s wearing the hat and, after reassuring Ranboo that he’ll come back for him, tries to escape the mall. But he gets caught, is forcefully brainwashed, and returns to his cynical yet helpful self again. So within the context of the audience's perception of CCs, Sneeg’s character only serves as a benefit to Ranboo, and without him (locked up in a cage), Sneeg is nothing, worthless even. Which to me makes the role feel so... icky.

Honestly, that’s probably why I don’t enjoy the dehumanizing cc theory all that much. It never fails to make me viscerally uncomfortable whenever I think about it for too long. “Wow, Genloss doesn’t have a happy ending and is supposed to make you uncomfortable? No shit sherlock.”Yeah, yeah, I know, but that interpretation is just too real for me. With the changing one’s perception leaves them with no choice or time loop theories, we can absolve ourselves of blame, since this is what Showfall wanted to happen. It's still not reassuring, but I’m used to not having control over what happens, be it social, politically, economically, etc. But by viewing the characters as their cc counterparts, their pain becomes so personal that we have no one to blame but ourselves for the suffering they endure. And while I know I wasn’t at fault for their trauma (I was a lurker on twitch, twitter, and tumblr at Ranboo’s "peak", so I couldn’t share my opinion even if I wanted to), I still feel a sense of responsibility knowing that I can’t do anything about it now. That I don’t know how to make it all better. I can’t stop random people from harassing Niki in the past, but I’m still ashamed that it happened at all. It’s like secondhand embarrassment cranked up to 1000%.

I want to watch Lex Cat’s video essay surrounding this topic so badly, but I have to wait until I’m in a good enough headspace because I know it will leave me feeling utterly desolate after. I haven't watched Ranboo’s playthrough of Killer Frequency, but I’ve been told that chat was a mess of people trying to help and others lying to him (telling them they missed something even though they hadn’t, saying that he picked the wrong options when they were right, etc.) and I believe them 100%. I know this because I was there for the late-night mining streams, having to sit through chat screaming DIAMONDS at Ranboo just for shits and giggles. No wonder Ranboo doesn’t trust us to pick the correct combination code for the mall exit when all we have done before is try to fuck him over.

If we choose to believe that Generation Loss was about the dehumanization of content creators by their fanbase, then all this tells Ranboo is that we, his audience, have learned nothing. If they view Generation Loss as Ranboo’s cry for help, a last-ditch effort to change their community, pleading, begging us to see him as a human being and not just a commodity, then why are we choosing to treat him exactly the same as before?

Maybe that’s why voting to kill Ranboo was so easy for me. I never viewed myself as their judge and jury, glowering over him as I decided his fate. As his blood began to pool beneath him, I felt more akin to his executioner, simply following the orders given from Showfall Media.

Maybe I was wrong to assume everyone felt the same way…

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Gen 2 Playlist Analysis

Now that we know exactly how important and foreshadow-y these songs are, I decided that I have too much free time so here’s my shitty prediction of the songs meaning on the Gen 2 playlist. This is not serious at all so enjoy the rambling of an insane man. Sidebar: I use the word “Showfall” as a collective term and for legibility and could be interchanged with Hetch(s)

Kaisarion by Ghost - It seems to be either talking about a lowly grunt of Showfall’s POV talking about the company, or could be a nod to one of the new characters, but seems very much a Showfall song. Confidence: 7/10

Spillways by Ghost - CHATS SONG OMG! This reeks of a song that taunts the viewer/listener for their choice at the end of Gen 1. Could also be about G1!Characters but considering the lack of CCs in later seasons, it is very much about chat. Confidence: 9.5/10

Faith by Ghost - Hetch’s song. The lines “I am all eyes, I am all ears, I am the wall” are so telling. It could also be Showfall song in general. I want to say that this is for a new villain, but I believe that there were multiple Hetchs in every episode, so it could be a variation. Confidence: 7.5/10

He Is by Ghost - Unknown Character that could either be working with or fall under the corruption of Showfall. This is a hymn almost. While this could be about “The Savior” from the games, I hold firmly that “The Savior” is a false savior and should not be trusted. Confidence 5/10

Kiss the Go-Goat by Ghost - Trickery. We’ve/The Characters have been tricked into something. “It ain’t always what it seems When you cling onto a dream”. There is a false reality at play that will kick us onto our asses. Osculum Obscenum, Kiss of Shame. Confidence: 8/10

Square Hammer by Ghost - This is what I feel is The Savior’s song. Nowhere is there evidence that The Savior is a holy and righteous figure. I don’t think we will get to see them in this Generation but they will become more prominent, possibly with a grave sacrifice (GL!Ranboo perhaps? “Hammering the nails into a sacred coffin”?) Confidence: 5/10

Crucified by Ghost - I am honestly not sure why this is here. It could be a callback to Gen 1, it could be showing us a pattern for Showfall, I’m not sure. Either way, it makes me curious. Confidence: ??/10

Another Believer by Rufus Wainwright - This one is interesting. Depending on the lens you look through it could change the meaning. From the characters' POV, it could simply be a break of trust and/or seeing through the veil of Showfall and being re-indoctrinated, or it could foreshadow our own manipulation, trying to convince the characters to trust us. Confidence: 5-7/10

Everybody Wants To Rule The World by Tears For Fears - Power struggle. I imagine we will see more moments like those we see in The Choices. The struggle between fighting against the tide and letting it guide you. I think this one is like a theme song for Generation Loss as a whole. Who’s right? Who deserves power? We don’t know, but we want it. Confidence: 7.5/10

Homage by Mild High Club - This is a character’s song. This is about someone with borrowed time that has let the tide guide them to their end. I can imagine the exposition with flashbacks of happy memories before they let the tide take them under. Tears will fall and we will be angry (/lh). Confidence: 6/10

Jesus He Knows Me by Ghost - The Founders’ anthem. These are the words of a seemingly omniscient, malevolent cult leader(s). Confidence: 9/10

You’re at the Party by Lemon Demon - I’m not entirely sure if Gen 2 will follow the same idea as Gen 1 with this being a television show (the latest video on Generation Loss’s YT gives me hope that it is) but if so, this seems like a parallel to the moment GL!Ranboo wakes up at the end of episode 2 and realizes it’s all a game. A morbid, fucked up game, but a game nevertheless. Confidence: 6.5/10

He Needs Me by Shelley Duvall - This one is interesting. I feel that this one is about the cat-and-mouse game that is going on between us and Showfall. Showfall needs us to be a part of their show, to have us tune in and pay attention. To potentially be a weapon against their enemies, as shown in The Choice. However, we need Showfall. We need them to give us entertainment. And even though we kicked and screamed and cried over our Hero, in the end, we watched till the very end, and they saw that. We are in a loop. Confidence: 8/10

Misery Fell by Tally Hall - I feel this one ties into the previous song and goes into more depth on the relationship we have with Showfall.

Cannibal by Tally Hall - Once again, this is our relationship with Showfall, however, this is how we feel. We are trapped and being bled, but we are willing. We tune in and watch the show each and every time. This could also be about the protagonist of Gen 2, but the more information we get about Generation Loss, the less I think the characters matter.

This was so dumb and took me over an hour to do, and I’m not sure how coherent this even is but here it is lmao

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Generation Loss: Teaser Trailer Analysis

Let's talk about that new teaser trailer for Generation Loss, shall we? I plan to analyze it in depth, though factual opinions aside, I really like this teaser. Much up my alley!

Along with the Generation Loss account on Twitter changing it's profile picture and banner, today we've gotten the new Generation Loss teaser which can be found here. It is titled '1', so I'm assuming we'll receive more teasers like this.

We know literally nothing about GenLoss, so I suppose it will be very hard to analyze but I am going to try my best. This analysis will probably just cover some possible storylines for the actual show.

For 13 seconds we have a video of a television screen playing static. There is a small Generation Loss (i should say the weird random mark which we don't know the importance of) logo on the left of the television screen, that or it is just a splatter of blood.

Then, words flash upon the screen: don't hide, don't escape, don't talk, don't hesitate, don't conform. Assuming this is our main character threatening someone else. Someone who might have committed many crimes, or maybe this is an accomplice to the main character.

Then we get our first non-word flashes, and they are as follows: (Numbered for better analyzing)

These images flash for a second time.

Now, time to analyze.

I feel like I'm going to need to establish the different characters who I think will be appearing in this horror series. 1) We'll have Ranboo, most likely our main character, who finds tapes of someone who's committed crimes. (I think Ranboo leaked some stuff that he was working on for GenLoss in one of his streams, and this was one of the conclusions we could draw from that snippet) 2) Our crime committer, who is probably the subject of this teaser. I am assuming that either the series will take place over this one person, or each episode will focus on different people. So this person will change over time. 3) There will be a person who makes the tapes. Towards the end of this analysis I explain my reasoning for this character, and why the tapes were not made by this crime comitter.

Alrighty then, now I think it's safe to start analyzing.

One thing I've noticed is that all of these photos have the GenLoss logo in them somewhere. 1 has it cut off near the face, 2 has it in the background on a whiteboard, 3 has it as the description of the polaroid, 4 has it on the chalkboard, and I'm pretty sure 5 has it to the left of the person.

I think that the person in these tapes is our crime committer. They probably have created some association involving crime, or at least a subtle association which makes people do something but they aren't aware of what they are doing. This is where the logo comes in; this logo is the symbol or insignia for this association or project.

It looks like our crime committer is a primary school teacher (that or he teaches something after/before school hours). This can be seen in photos 2 and 4. He's definetly brainwashing the kids of some sort, whether or not they are aware of this happening.

The initials of this person is I. Z., I believe, which can be drawn from picture number 1. Hard to tell what this stands for.

Also, the face of our crime committer is blocked out in red, always. The only time it isn't blocked out is in photo 1 where it looks like they have a cloth over their head. The students are blocked out in black.

(Also, is it just me or is there red writing on the 5th photo? There is a Generation Loss logo on the left side of the person, but there appears to be stuff on the right side too. I don't know if this is worth getting in to)

More static appears, then we get this:

'Learn the history' of what happened, probably. This is definetly an intro to a tape.

'Find the Founder' flashes and for a second 'Kill' flashes overtop of 'Find'. I'm assuming our crime committed is the founder of an organization, and somebody is out to kill them. Maybe this founder also went missing, or disappeared, hence the word 'find'.

Also, the very last second of the video displays this:

Guessing this show is bound to deceive us.

Anyways, here's what I've drawn from this teaser trailer.

-One day, our main character Ranboo finds tapes. Tapes of which contain history of someone who nobody's ever heard of before, who may have committed many crimes or started an all powerful organization in plain shadows. The person who founded this group (our crime comitter) is probably NOT the one who made the tapes. Someone out to get them probably made it instead, in hopes of someone finding the tapes and killing them. Why would the Founder make tapes instructing one to kill themselves? -I'm also assuming there is going to be hidden messages in these tapes. They're probably going to come across as nothing but after closer inspection they'll be pretty horrifying. This ties in the last screenshot in this post.

Anyhow, I'm very excited for Generation Loss. Expect more teasers, and I believeee Ranboo said we could be getting the actual show (or at least part of it) by the end of the year.

I'd like to hear others thoughts haha. Let me know your ideas for what Generation Loss might be!

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on austinshow (?) in generation loss

(austin viewers pls forgive me if thats not the name he actually uses bc i do not watch him so idk im using the one they introduced him with and assuming its good)

i know a lot of people interpreted austins whole thing with the wife and kids as him being forced to lie by showfall but honestly the whole time my perspective

was that he was actively lying To The Viewers because he knew he'd have a better chance if he appealed to a wider audience/didnt reveal that he was gay,

like, i know he was introduced as

Austin Show | gay

but they cant see that, and the puzzler immediately calls him out for lying, and throughout the episode repeatedly asks him the names of his children and how many he has, which austin fucks up multiple times, so i assumed that he was intentionally trying to mislead the audience to protect himself, and showfall had the everyone prompt him as much as possible (and maybe got him to mention them more himself) in order to point out that something wasn't right about what he was telling us

now, i also want to point out, (and this is from another theory ive seen tying back to the mind control) that austin doesn't have anything on his head, and one theory i saw is that everyone else, barring sneeg until the hat, had something on their head in that episode,

ranboo with their mask

niki, vinny, and sneeg with hats

charlie and ethan with their glasses

rats with masks,

and jerma/puzzler with the prosthetics although that ones a bit more meta since based on charlies commentary it actually looked a lot more real/seamless in person than on camera

but austin isnt wearing anything, and hes arguably the most freaked out, like sure niki is sobbing but she switches the second shes in the spotlight she switches to being collected and upbeat, the only other person we see as visibly disturbed as austin is sneeg during the hat sequence,

throughout the entire carousel scene austin is looking around, visibly nervous, and like others have pointed out, he kept staring at frank, who since the reveal of the filter thing, everyones been pretty agreed on is probably like, a full on rotting corpse that they were just carting around,

so i think that while showfall had some influence on austin, his actions more than anything, they didnt have full control over his words, and they were definitely letting him see at least some of what was going on,

whether they were allowing him to lie and behave so nervously is anyones guess, it certainly makes the program more interesting, but the way he talks so desperately about his many wives and children reads to me as something a queer person would probably do if placed in some kind of saw esque game show where we had to appeal to the largest majority of viewers to survive

i like the way people have taken it as showfall stripping him of his identity, but to me, i read it as them outing him, which, also in my mind works closer with the theme of what fans/fan culture will do to "celebrities" (see kit connor with heartstopper however many years ago that was), and the fact that showfall outed him without care that his situation was dangerous just drives this further home for me

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generation loss generation 2 playlist analysis !!

hello !! this is my first actual post so sorry if there's any weird formatting ! i have not seen anyone analyze ranboo's playlist for generation 2 yet so i figured i'd fill the gap !!

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