#giovanh

[tyzias-ennnntykk]

A lot of you think we're fucking joking when we say "don't blindly trust accusations against transfems" huh

[lumeninfusco]

The Unofficial Homestuck Collection Has Not Been Taken Down.

Here is a link to Gio's version of the app, which was never removed from Github.

Here is a link to the Homestuck-controlled fork of the app, which was also never removed from Github.

Here is a link to a list of all forks from Gio's version of the app.

Here you will find a link to the asset pack, which is compatible with all forks of the app. There are also active torrents if you know where to look.

Stop spreading misinformation.

I can only speculate as to why Gio chose to headline his callout post with the factually untrue, eye-catching and bombastic statement "Unofficial Homestuck Collection Taken Down", but as a direct result, many people across the web are taking that as The Story, The Thing That Happened, despite being verifiably false. The only thing that was taken down was the link to the repository from Gio's own personal website.

Whatever else you may feel about Homestuck, the HICU, Andrew Hussie, Gio, or any of the other players involved, I implore all of you to, at the very least, stop spreading the lie that the Unofficial Homestuck Collection has been taken down.

This has been a public service announcement.

[relaxxattack]

okay it’s starting to become genuinely embarrassing how many people on tumblr apparently believed when gio said that hussie took the UHC down?

it is Literally Still Up. a Simple Google Search would have told you this

[madam-melon-meow]

Regarding GiovanH’s second article, in which he claims the HICU is a fake and that the FRAF are under Hussie’s thumb, two of FRAF’s staff have put forward statements disputing that.

Cami, Director of FRAF and Creator of Tablestuck

they did pick and choose from the things I said to twist it into fitting into their narrative, even if there wasn't much to twist. Some notable points that I did explicitly clarify but they excluded are that the list of works are not run by Andrew for approval, and we don't consult the HICU on the list out of any kind of requirement or social pressure. We were literally not ever even asked to, we asked for their input because we value their input. Additionally, he was very clearly trying to lead our conversation into anti-HICU sentiment and was (mid-conversation) trying to spin things I was saying towards being anti-HICU. He very clearly had a goal in our conversation and new what he wanted to get out of it, and wasn't particularly interested in anything that might conflict with it.

Victoria, Web Developer of FRAF and Creator of Burning Down The House

in the second article, the one titled "the homestuck union is not real", there's a bit where gio asserts that austin stepped down from vast error not long after getting the homestuck license. this is true, technically. austin did stop working on vast error to work on disenfranchised. disenfranchised fucking rules, and austin's been working on vast error for close to 15 years, and in doing so is beholden to decisions made as far back as when they were 13 years old. that's over twice as long as homestuck ran on mspa. i would get tired too. this is a normal thing to feel.

but since the case that needs to be made is "FRAF is a bad idea because they're putting control of their projects under HICU control", something untrue, the facts of the matter are ignored. "austin was told to step down by hussie" would be easily disprovable, because it's horseshit. it's seeing what you want to see, instead of what is actually there. because it's actually a piece for their actual hobbyhorse, "someone was taken off of a project that later wound up under the FRAF label", all the important parts can be abstracted away. the truth itself becomes a malleable thing that can be manipulated through omission and reframing.

[froggy-nebula]

like hussie may have been unprofessional but gios article is downright malicious and people taking it at face value is crazy. how much blatant transmisogyny and antisemetic jokes does it take for people to go hm maybe this isnt good faith

exactly! it makes me feel crazy when i see people sitting around and going "hrm but this part does seem unprofessional" when the claim isnt just that hussie is "unprofessional" the claim is that hussie is an evil abusive scorpion of a person and any unprofessional screenshots are surrounded by paragraphs of insane transmisogny. and the "the gio-ish question" thing????

i wouldnt want to work with gio either! i would have an extremely hard time being kind or professional to someone who talks about me like this

[canisvesperus]

I’m not even invested in this discourse, but what the fuck?

[red-elric]

everyone treating the unofficial homestuck collection project fallout as purely personal drama/a smear campaign on either side is baffling to me because it seems clear that this is first and foremost a legal issue that has personal feelings mixed up in it. it is true that the homestuck team/hussie has always had the legal right to call a cease and desist on the uhc project for their use of homestuck assets. it is also true that the uhc team has legal rights to the reader program. the uhc project was a fan made collaborative archival project designed to preserve the comic in its original form at a time when that comic was unreadable in any official capacity. that has value, and handing over full control of the archival program without careful review of the legal documents first would be insane. like that would never happen in a short period of time without someone getting massively fucked over. gio 'withholding something that could be really cool from the fans because of a personal gripe' is so clearly a wild misrepresentation of the actual situation, and completely contradictory to the existence of the uhc in the first place; if gio wanted homestuck to be unreadable, why put in a shit ton of work to make it readable, for free? no, the actual situation is that the homestuck team had a choice between a) putting in a bunch of work to make the comic readable again themselves, and potentially sending a cease and desist to the uhc team (which they are in their full rights to do), b) coordinating with the uhc team since it is already a complete project, to get the comic back up faster in an official context, or c) do nothing with the official channels, and potentially still cease and desist the uhc (which again, theyre in their full legal right to do). the homestuck team seems to have chosen option b, at least at first. from this point, it becomes a negotiation of contract terms. and from what ive seen, the contracts offered by the homestuck team were written in a way that gave up more control of the project than gio was willing to give. the potential consequences of this would be things like claiming the homestuck team put the project together themselves without crediting the uhc team or the fan contributions, using the project's platform to promote things the uhc team doesn't agree with, but has their names tied to anyway, or putting gio in a position where he cannot speak freely about his opinions on homestuck or the homestuck team publically. these are things that should not be signed away without careful consideration, and i do not fault gio for not wanting to do so. if they are non negotiables for the homestuck team, then at this point the homestuck team should pivot to option a or c and be done with it. period. those are options the homestuck team has had the whole time, so in no way can gio be accused of 'blackmailing' or 'stalling' or whatever the fuck else; the homestuck team is the one w the power in this situation, they just want a really cool project to be theirs for free, because they feel like it should be. but thats not how things work lmao.

im not saying gio is the best person or anything, and yeah the article was a little over the top and inflammatory. but jesus christ, think about the legal aspect of it.

[vampsoda]

sometimes your deeply weird parasocial relationship w someone is based in hatred instead of admiration and it is in fact still parasocial and weird and that dooooes affect the credibility of your call out post cough! i mean journalism