#heresy

[thanosthedadtitan]

We've gone too far..

[a-queer-seminarian]

Attributing polygamy to heretics and heathens — in Blessing Same-Sex Unions by Mark Jordan (2005):

Polygamy has been an exegetical crux for Christian theology. It has also been continuously imagined as a necessary boundary on the other side of which stood heretical Christians or nefarious non-Christians —including, in recent centuries, the “pagans” or “heathens” of missionary lands. ...

In orthodox imagination, heretics are typically inclined to polyamory and orgies—and to seduction, masturbation, sodomy, pederasty, and bestiality.

Sexual license is a distinguishing feature of heretics, because sexual restraint is, of course, the distinguishing feature of the orthodox.

Some heretical or marginal groups may have invoked the example of the Israelite patriarchs. American religious groups certainly did, the first Mormons chief among them.

Indeed, American law still records polygamy as a place where there can be no freedom of religion—not even by appeal to biblical precedent. Still there is a more important theological point: Even if it were admitted, the precedent of the Israelite patriarchs would be very limited. On traditional Christian understandings, the patriarchs could authorize nothing more than polygyny for reproductive ends. While this is enough to undo dogmatic claims on behalf of natural law or of a single Judeo-Christian tradition, it is not enough to authorize reconceiving erotic relationships, for however many partners, as equal and affectional arrangements. ...

If some marginal or dissenting groups invoked the patriarchs, many justified their behavior by appeal to Christian notions of love or agapic community, often in connection with Eucharistic practice or direct inspiration by the Holy Spirit. Think how often charges of debauchery are linked by patristic authors to disordered Eucharists or agapic suppers. Think of the claims of Spirit-led marriages in sixteenth-century Anabaptist groups [see the Reformation section of this wiki page]. ...

[otatma]

you've heard of unkillable christ, now get ready for Jehovaic Suicide

so the narrative as I understand it is that

1) nailing that guy to a stick was a human sacrifice to absolve all the wrongdoings ever, and

2) that squishy human guy was also literally the creator deity (preposterous amounts of ink have been spilled on this point do not @ me)

Jehovaic Suicide, then, simply states that at the moment the divine guy tied he took the entire trinity with him into permanent and immediate nonexistence

because that's what makes the sacrifice work you cannot halfsies/thirdsies the deep magic

and before you come at me with any nonsense about temporal envelopes or any scope related criteria whatsoever please kindly remember that the story is

3) your creator god used his supreme superb creator magic to bind himself into the limited frame and span of your savior, and

4) your creator god also set up the entire fucking system of blood sacrifice in the first place

so therefore christians please now pick exactly one of the following:

5) the alleged sacrifice was valid because it was carried out according to the established tradition, guaranteeing the nonexistence of your deity in proportion to the potency of his magic, or

6) your deity could have handwaved the entire fucking sin system and replaced it with anything else, but instead of that your creator left it all intact and went slumming on earth to have a wank and torture a guy uniquely for a few decades, ultimately leaving the status quo untouched

what you won't find me available to debate about:

7) the reality of any of this bullshit (it's just Roman propaganda from the year 325 that got out of hand), and

8) that according to the rules of your own lore your guy is allowed to halfsies a fucking blood sacrifice and still realize any effect from it.

ok? ok.

[mcfayden]

Lowkey I was not the keeper of my brother earlier but like whatever

[drugstorecowboi]

Heresy: “More Blood Is Shed” - 1985-1987 [Originally from the Never Healed E.P. (1986)] (2005)

[sigismundsghost]

Legio Solaria Warhound Titan

[oozy-rat-in-a-sanitary-zoo]

Watching a northern renaissance documentary and they mention portable altarpieces used as prayer aids..

Interesting parallel with ye olde porn theatre and dirty magazines lmao