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if jack had jumped off the chopper, do you think kate would’ve followed him? she was going to leave the island with him, she went back to him, so how would that turn out if jack had stayed behind again.

lost should’ve had some “what if” filler episodes.

Yeah, Kate probably would’ve followed him, I mean Kate leaving the island in itself is entirely reliant on her faith in Jack. It’s not just that she’s following someone who will get her out, it’s that she’s following someone she believes in. If Jack believed the best course of action was to stay behind, I imagine Kate would’ve wanted to stay behind too bc that’s the weight of her trust in Jack.

And if Jack had been the one to jump off the chopper, Kate 100% would’ve tried jumped in after him. And if she hadn’t gotten the chance (bc I actually do think Jack knows Kate would’ve followed him , and probably would’ve asked Sawyer to hold her back), then Kate would’ve spent her entire time off-island trying to go back to Jack and save him.

And it’s actually interesting bc we kinda see a version of this play out when the Freighter is about to explode, and Kate is trying to find Jin bc she promised Sun she would get him out. Kate at her core is a pretty heroic figure, she loves helping others and more importantly , she loves saving others (probably as much as Jack). And she’s perfectly willing to stay on the Freighter until she finds Jin, even if she blows up; until Jack tells her that he’s not getting back on that chopper unless she’s with him. That’s what makes her retreat and leave Jin behind. That is the extent of her love for Jack.

So, I mean yeah anon I do think she would’ve jumped in after Jack.

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Ummm... I need to ask you losties a question.

As you know I'm a big Jack Shepard apologist (he's the only fictional white man that I'll protect at all cost just because we're trauma-bonded) and, although I honest-to-god think that he has a lot of chemistry with Sawyer, I've always loved his relationship with Kate because it's lightning quick but messy, cute but full of unsaid things.

Aside from fanon readings (unfortunately the show has never taken queer relationship to heart), the Jack-Kate-Sawyer love triangle was, more or less, interesting until s2 max s3. After that? It was just a tired trope that they continued to use because the show kept running but they had already reached its resolution and didn't really bother to find more interesting ways to develop the relationship between these three.

Today, however, while I was re-watching "The Little Prince" (S5) I realized one thing: perhaps the reason why it feels like it's a tired trope is because, narratively speaking, it's pretty unbalanced?

I mean, in S4 we see Jack and Kate relationship both on the island and back home. Like, we literally see them as they develop their relationship along two different timelines. In other words, we're given more material and, as I've already said many times, it's clear as day that by S4 the love triangle thing has been resolved.

However, because in S5 time works differently, we keep continuing seeing Jack and Kate's relationship but we also see the last remainder of Sawyer's attachment to Kate. But, by now, 20+ episodes have passed, different timelines have been explored so... the "bond" between these two characters feels... diluted?

As in, it makes sense for Sawyer to still think about Kate because only a few weeks have passed to him. But to us? For us three years have passed + what happened on the island with Jack and Kate in s4 so it kinda makes also sense to us that the love triangle is done.

It's like what I said about Kate and Jack's fight in s4: it makes close to zero sense for them to fight over Sawyer, not because they've just forgotten about him but because we see actual events happening to them in-between those years. And these events are all pretty though so the Sawyer-of-it-all almost pales in comparison!

So what I'm trying to say, I guess, is that while the time-travels storylines are cool as fuck, when it comes to feelings and love... they leave a bittersweet taste after viewing the episodes because the relationships suddenly don't feel earned anymore.

Like, we literally see Sawyer develop a bond with Juliet, open up to her, show his vulnerabilities etc. On the other hand, we also see Jack and Kate being domestic etc. So all the sudden "pathos" between Sawyer and Kate is just... not there?

Up until s3 they were GREAT together but after that? Just too many things happened and their relationships wasn't as "fated" as Kate's with Jack. It would've made more sense if they'd either showed a rekindling that actually made sense or they'd just developeded their dynamics differently.

Anyhoo, I've written too much, I really wanna knw what YOU folks think!