the man in the high castle season 1 (2015) turns 10 today
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the man in the high castle season 1 (2015) turns 10 today
My 1917 art for 1917 day!! (April 6th) Bc im not brainrotted at all
Also Tom is just sleeping deffinelty 100% hes taking a nap he'll wake up
has anyone ever drawn juliana frank and joe as that one challengers scene or should i do it
obsessed where stories where it is like. the mistakes are unfixable and the worst thing that could happen happened and nothing can go back to how it was. but there was still love in this and love will continue after this and love endures always. - @currentlycryingaboutlancelot
after a few days, i feel better about The Man In The High Castle so i feel like being in the right headspace to give my opinion about it, especially about Joeliana.
season 1 and the first part of season 2 was really good to me. after this, this went downhill. not only in terms of romance but in terms of what the creators of the show wanted the audience to see.
at the end of season 1, Juliana gives Joe an escape to Mexico. she says to him that she believes him, she does not believe in the films, in the fact that he believes in the ideology of the Reich. in short, she knows he’s a good man.
we can see that in the beginning of season 2, when he’s fully shocked that the Reich assassinated the pirates with whom he was with on the boat. when he says to Smith that he quits, that he doesn’t want to work for the Reich anymore. when Smith says that in this job, it cannot be interfered by feelings for someone and Joe answers something along the lines “not me, i cannot do that”. and then, we see that later in the season, when his dad in Berlin wants to assassin so many people and he says this phrase that’s my favourite of him “i understand loyalty to a person, not a cause”. he would does not think it is good to kill for the Reich, he does not agree with this ideology. and his loyalty lies with Juliana. John’s the one who said to Joe that Juliana was dead. but Joe doesn’t search for more evidences, he believes in him, and go straight to Berlin and even start a new “relationship” with Nicole that does not make any sense? he talks about Juliana again and he has this hallucination where he sees her, but he doesn’t search more if she is really dead. because, may I recall, that Smith said “we’ll know in one day or two if she is the woman from the Resistance who’s dead”. but this wasn’t sure! another plot hole imo.
then for Juliana, when she is escaping the Kempetai, she seek for asylum to the Reich saying that she works with Joe Blake. when she arrives in Berlin, she excepts to see him here but she only get “he’s away” as an information. she searches for him, but the writers forget rapidly that she searches for him as the season goes buy. which is one plot hole here : she loves Joe, why would she stop looking for him? at least having news of him? because she needed his help, that’s also why she went to the Reich. they have a connection : John Smith. he both know who they are, that they’re in love with each other and this is each other’s weak point. he knows it because he says something like “yes, i am gonna use them to get what i want” when another agent tells him that Juliana lied concerning the nature of her relationship with Joe. as Joe realises it, Smith manipulates them a lot. he uses them whenever he get the chance to. when Juliana goes to the Smith’s for dinner, Smith receives a call from Joe. he never once mentioned it to Juliana or to Joe, that she was alive and that she was in his house at the right moment! i mean, only if he wanted to torture Juliana, he could’ve said that he had him on the phone again and that he’s forced to stay in Berlin or something like that. this was such a big opportunity for me. i understand that Smith had other things to care about at this moment and that Joe told him “I’m done” and then hung up so he didn’t really pick him up on it but still. i mean, if he wants spies, Joeliana together would be amazing!!! and if Joe had knew that Juliana was alive, he would’ve run to New York in seconds. also, when we see in s2/s3 that Joe was arrested alongside his father in the Reich, that he went on TV with a false discourse…Juliana never saw this? she never heard about it? she never knew he was imprisoned? at not any point, it was known in other countries that Heussman had a son who was with him during his time as Fuhrer ? still a plothole.
what really didn’t make sense for me was that Joe stays in Berlin, he choose to stay with his dad, to stay in the Reich. the whole point of Joe was that Juliana changed him, changed his point of view the system, and he just becomes what… a brainwashed mean Nazi? this is the second part of my analysis : at this point, they made characters to be symbols. Joe and Juliana weren’t humans in a dystopia but they were symbols. Joe, the symbol of the man who’s too brainwashed and tortured by the system he cannot come back to himself. and Juliana, the woman who fights to have a better world than the one they’re living in. and this woman would do everything to end this system, including killing the man she loves. this is where there is no sense for me. in season 3, we see them being all lovey dovey, having those domestic scenes together that are so cute! and then, they fight : Joe threaten Juliana and she kills him. like. tell me how can they be all in love one second and the other one they attack each other ? this doesn’t make any sense to me.
the last part of my analysis is this : they didn’t have enough time together, that is also why a lot of the writing choices in the season 3 doesn’t make any sense to me. they wanted to make them be feared of each other ? okay, then show me how this builds up. they did show Joe being still really brainwashed by the Reich but does this justify that he would threaten the woman he loves with a gun? i don’t think so, with what we’ve seen so far at this point in s3. that’s why also i think they were more built as symbols than real persons because they wanted to show what a authoritarian system do to people. but this is very disappointing because it feels like they’re not human anymore. they’re just symbol of the Reich or a revolution. and it’s okay if they wanted to show us that, but they didn’t start with this in season 1. i loved Joe and Juliana of season 1, they were so extraordinary. so for me there is a lot of incoherences, it does not make sense.
overall, i just really wished they had more time together. they were truly amazing and had so much potential. they didn’t see each other during one WHOLE season in s2, like what the hell? i love their domestic scenes in season 3 though, you can see how happy they are with each other. that’s also why it’s so incoherent that they fight SO violently together after that. they look like total different people. i still haven’t continued the show since Joe died, tbh i don’t think i will anytime soon.
for me, they should’ve been endgame. i loved the films storyline and that they were always in those films. whatever happened, it always came back to them. that’s what connected all characters together too, they both were a link to everyone in the show. and the films made me believe their story was fate. i will still believe that even if the show didn’t take the road i wanted it to take. the actors have such an amazing chemistry together, this is really wonderful. they’re one of the couples with the most chemisty i’ve ever seen on TV.
i’ll finish by saying that it is such a shame that the creators of the show changed that much. this is very disappointing. they’ll always be in my heart because they were so good together!! chemistry /100, and the story was really interesting and intriguing. in my mind, they ran away together and then they came back (because they’re gonna get killed at some point, they’re both criminals) and are spies together. because they ace at it! i love themm<33
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the other week I started watching The Man in the High Castle and dear gods please don’t judge me too harshly 🫣
“Yeah.” Joe huffs, taking a step back and all his warmth with him. “Thought so.”
Before he can stop himself, Frank’s hand shoots out, catching Joe’s pretentious leather jacket in a vice grip. Stupid. Reckless. The words briefly flash through his mind before he’s yanking Joe closer, crashing their lips together.
Luke Kleintank::The Man in the High Castle
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saw the og and immediately thought of them…