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justsomewhump replied to your post: Hi! Would you recommend me some Killian whump...

If the anon likes noncon, I have a very whumpy MC where Emma watches everything and tries to comfort him as much as she can. It’s called “Dirty Little Sessions” and they can find it on the “Fanfiction” page on my blog :)

Oh, yes!!! Make sure to check this out if you like non-con, Nonny!

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Have you ever written a victim falling for their abuser? (justsomewhump here)

Oh, hello my good friend!

I have written this trope a few times, but usually with one caveat - there’s always some way or reason that the victim’s “abuser” isn’t really the villain.

I've written a couple of AUs that take place in future dystopian matriarchies where men are little more than slaves used for labor and procreation. Usually, there’s an element of a slave falling for their owner in those stories, or a man’s wife/girlfriend being forced to be the man’s owner when the new world order takes over - making them a reluctant captor/abuser, if you will. That’s definitely a favorite of mine, because what’s NOT to like in a world where ALL men are kept shackled and collared and forced to submit to ALL women? Yum! I also love playing with the idea of reluctant domination and submission, mandated by some inescapable government force. Mmmm... Fun. 

I’ve also done some fics where a male character is kidnapped by a female character who appears initially to be the aggressor, but isn’t. In one of those, the woman took an inordinate amount of care in feeding taking care of the male MC while he was being held captive, trying to protect him from her cohorts (and failing, of course, because he’s gotta get roughed up somehow ;)). She eventually helped him escape, at which point he learned she was just as much a prisoner of the place as he had been - and that by defying her own “masters” and letting him go, she would be tortured and killed. So he came back and saved her, and they eventually fell in love while recovering from it all.

In another one, the female was a cyborg who had been programmed to kidnap people at her master’s behest and hold/torture them until her master received the ransom demanded. That is, of course, until she meets the male protagonist, who she develops a fondness for that gives her the strength to fight past her programming and listen to her heart - saving him and defeating her evil owner.

There’s also been a few where the female MC happens to be in the wrong place, wrong time... or is friends with some folks who end up crazier than she thought... and she sort of gets pulled into a kidnapping plot gone awry. She has to play along and pretend to be working with the bad guys for fear of being killed or tortured, herself... but the whole time she’s secretly trying to help/save the male MC and get him free. So, again, not really the abuser... but at times forced to play the role, despite them both knowing she doesn’t want to.

Oh! I also wrote one a long while back where the female MC and her tribe of women warriors were taken over by an evil entity who used a form of puppet-like control over them, forcing them to invade a nearby tribe of males and take their leader (who the female MC had a crush on in canon) hostage. Using the female MC’s body (but leaving her control of her mind, so she could see/hear everything her body was doing), the entity tortured the male MC for days until he was completely broken and almost dead. He was rescued by his tribe just in the nick of time, who also captured the female MC and made plans to execute her for her crimes against their tribe. The male MC was too out of it to even know what was going on, but he came around just in time to stop the execution - because he said he’d known all along that it wasn’t her hurting him; he could see the pain and sadness in her eyes every time she was hurting him, and could tell that was the only part of her that was truly “her”. That one’s probably the closest to being the trope you’re asking about, since the male character was actually tortured (emotionally, physically and sexually) by the female MC - unlike most of the other stories, where there was just some not-entirely-torturous kidnappings and/or bondage, and maybe some government/employer demanded punishments. Although he was in love with the female MC before the ordeal began, so it’s not quite the same as falling in love with the abuser - more like his love was what allowed him to see through the charade all along.

Generally, I don’t usually write things where the victim straight-up falls for their abuser. I’ve done things where they get Stockholm Syndrome and/or act like they love their abuser for self-preservation, but then they’re always saved and helped through their recovery by the woman they actually love.

I usually don’t like writing things where the actual abuser ends up the victim’s ultimate love interest. I just can’t get my head around it, for one thing... but for another thing, I LIVE for scenes where the love interest rescues their broken, battered love from the clutches of the villain - which is hard to do when the actual villain ends up being the love interest ;)

Send me a trope and I’ll tell you about my private stories/plots of it :)

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justsomewhump replied to your post “Now i see squids and octopuses and immediately think of you XD See...”

Uhm yes sometimes I still can’t believe that your posts inspired me to write actual tentacle porn... Like if I shared this with <i>anyone</i> irl they would look at me as if I’d told them I actually participated in said tentacle-filled activity. And here like... I can share it freely and have people who love it and laugh at it with me XD

Hahaha, same!

What I love most is how we’re all just like, “This is hilarious! ...and hot! ...and hilarious. ...but also hot.” There’s no judgement in it, regardless of where each of us lies on the hot-hilarious spectrum at any given time. We’re all just forever joined in our, “So this is where my life has taken me. It’s unexpected, but I like it” vibe. Bless this show, Colin, and Kraken-san for widening all of Killian’s orifices our horizons! <3

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I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND I WANTED TO SAY THIS IN PUBLIC 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙

I LOVE YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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Hi! Is there research material on witnesses of torture? For example, people who were forced to witness another person's (loved one or not) torture, but weren't physically harmed themselves? Thank you!

I’m not aware of anyresearch material on witnessing torture in particular I’m afraid.

 I know that this can cause PTSD but it is less likely tocause PTSD than directly experiencing something traumatic.

 And well usually I likegiving a long answer but it seems like all you really want is sources. I canrecommend two that I think cover relevant accounts. Neither are freeunfortunately.

 The first is K R Monroe’sA Darkling Plain which is CambridgeUniversity Press and so has to be ordered and printed specially. It is worth it. This book is entirely interviewswith survivors of different traumatic events. They represent a huge crosssection of global conflicts and atrocities from the Holocaust to the KhmerRouge. The variety of victim experiences and responses makes it especiallyhelpful from an author’s perspective, showing a real diversity.

 The second is PGourevitch’s We Wish to Inform you thatTomorrow we will be Killed with our Families. This book is about Rwanda, Ihaven’t read all of it yet but I believe the interviews and evidence covered iswide ranging enough to cover what you want.

 You might also want tohave a look at the appendix of F Fanon’s TheWretched of the Earth which covers the notes he took working as a mentalhealth professional during the Franco-Algerian war. He treated torturers,torture survivors and family members of both groups.

I hope that helps. :)

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Okay you should know by now that I would ask for Killian headcanons... Make C hurt, baby :D

And from an Anon:

For the head canon thing. Killian Jones of course

Okay! Here goes…

A) What I think realisticallyMost of my actual realistic headcanons for Killian are pretty much the norm. I headcanon that he’s a bit of a neatnik from his Navy days. I have a bunch of ideas about his mom, though. I think it would be cool if she was either a goddess who returned to Olympus after he was born or a mortal who got knocked up by a roaming god and died in childbirth (those demi-god babies could be a bitch to deliver). It would explain why he tends to run into gods, as well as why Hades may have taken such an interest in him, and also could explain how the hell he’s survived for hundreds of years even though he gets whumped every single damn day(?!). I headcanon that he tries to keep modern technology off of the Jolly Roger, because it’s like a safe haven from the modern world and all of the confusing devices in it. Speaking of which…

B) What I think is fucking hilariousI think Emma made him an “Emma” button on the phone she gave him, but within a week he’d somehow managed to rename it “reuwoer” and he’s too proud to ask her to fix it, so he just keeps trying to fix it himself, and it changes name, icon, or location constantly, and he’s pretty sure that’s just how these strange devices work, because it certainly couldn’t be anything he’s doing. Really, I think his entire phone is a hilarious exercise in bizarreness, because he just keeps pushing buttons, and then pushing more buttons to fix what went wrong after the last buttons he pushed and so on and so forth. He tries to keep Emma from knowing how colossally fucked up his phone is, but she figured it out one day when his calls went straight to voicemail and his recording was just the sound of buttons beeping and him muttering about “this infernal device.” Since then, she makes sure to occasionally go in there and fix things for him, and he’s really none the wiser. Probably thinks the phone magically “gets better” when he lets it spend the day at home, sleeping. Sometimes I like to just sit around and think of ways for him to completely fuck up modern appliances and devices… I just picture him making this face a lot:

C) What is heart-crushing and awful, but fun to inflict on friendsI think his mom either died in childbirth or her reason for leaving the family was assumed to have something to do with the new baby (him). I know Brennan’s betrayal and growing up in servitude would obviously damage a boy’s self-esteem, but his issues seem to be far more deeply ingrained than that. After all, Liam doesn’t seem to be similarly afflicted with self-loathing. I think his deeper lack of self-worth is because the people of the town/village he was raised in used to whisper about that Jones boy who drove his mother away… or, even worse, that boy who took his mother’s life with his first breath. I also believe this is why darkness has always taken hold of him so easily. On some level, he believes it was present in him since he was born, when he either killed his mother or drove her away. Also, it would explain why he is driven to almost worshipful reverence of the women in his life - because he feels they’re practically superhuman for surviving/loving him, when even his own mother couldn’t. Sorry, that probably doesn’t hurt that much, lol… but I like it.

D) What would never work in canon, but fuck canonOkay, well… Actually, these would work in canon - but ABC would never go anywhere near them in a million years. I’ve also mentioned them all before, so nothing too exciting here. I think in order for him to continue residing in Neverland, Killian basically had to “work” for Pan, doing whatever he was told to do. I think for his part of the deal, Pan didn’t kill Killian, allowed him rations for himself and his crew, more or less let him have his ship to himself, and allowed him occasional passage out of the realm (no doubt with some way to guarantee his return). For Killian’s part, I think he was more or less Pan’s slave - including sexually. Yeah, ABC’s not gonna ever go there. I also think Rumplestiltskin had a shitload of fun with him when he had his heart and complete control over him. They just didn’t show us all of it, ‘cos, you know, ABC and stuff… XD Same with Cora being his Mistress. It’s totally canon in my head, but ABC will never allow it to be confirmed. *sob*

Okay, that was probably really disappointing, because I think I’ve talked about all of that stuff before and none of it’s all that exciting… *sigh*

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The almost "I love you" scene in season 4 finale where Emma tackles Killian to the bed.

OH MY GOD, HIS FACE. His face is so expressive, and you can just see how supportive and patient he’s being, but also how absolutely eager and hopeful he is that she mightmightmight say the magic words... and then she doesn’t, and you can see his disappointment, but also his determination to be there for her and be patient until she’s ready to say the words he knows she wanted to say but couldn’t just yet.

So my unpopular opinion / confession? I wanted to fucking throttle Emma for not saying those words. It was like dangling a tennis ball in front of a Golden Retriever’s nose, watching it get so adorably excited because “You’re gonna throw it! OH MY GOD it’s a tennis ball and you’re gonna THROW IT ohboy ohboy ohboy!!!!” and then being like, “Haha, shit no, I’m not throwing it.”

BITCH, I WILL CUT YOU. And then she went and said it anyway, like 30 fucking seconds later, in the middle of a super angsty moment, like taking that adorable Retriever to the vet and then being like, “But I’ll throw the ball now, okay boy?” Like, “That’s nice, human, but couldn’t we have done this before? When I was so happy and wanted it so much... and we weren’t at the vet?”

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thank you so much for that wave of killypan feels lol

Haha, you’re welcome... but @justsomewhump is actually responsible for it XD I think she tripped and fell in a Captain Pan hole :D