#klamille asks

[justsomeitgirl]

What are your thoughts on the Cami and Klaus moment in the new promo for season 4?!?

I think it’s beautiful how after five years, Camille O’Connell is still the one who keeps Klaus going even as he suffers through endless days of constant torment. That is the definition of true, undying love and it’s a rare and exquisite thing.

Cami has been Klaus’s refuge ever since they met. She was the one talking him out of stupid decisions, calming him down and making him think it through and choose to do better. She was the light at the end of the tunnel which made him want to walk towards it in the first place. She was one of his few links to humanity, his balance and the reason why he fought to embrace the goodness in him. And when she left him, he made a promise. He promised he wouldn’t let go, he promised he would do right by her and Hope just like she asked him to, he promised her to be the light when darkness surrounded him.

Camille O’Connell became Klaus’s light. That’s why, when he is at his worst and in so much pain, it’s her name he screams. To calm him and remind him he is strong enough to get through it, just like she used to. She became part of him, the best part of him, because that was the way he found to always be with her. Five years, an eternity even, are not enough for Klaus to forget someone who became the embodiment of his own light, or for him to ever stop loving her. Camille lives through Klaus and Klaus lives because of her.

[justsomeitgirl]

I totaly think you should continue,but that' beside the point right now. I was wondering if you think it is possible for Klaus to have a love intrest after the entire Camile O'Connel ordeal, do you think he'll ever love again?

No.

Nope.

Not a chance.

Definitely not.

Never in a million years.

Just no. 

Have I said “no”?

Because it is a no.

Klaus Mikaelson is unconditionally in love with Camille O’Connell, now and forever. They were it for each other. No one could ever fill in her shoes.

[justsomeitgirl]

When Cami fall in love with klaus and realized she was in love with Klaus in your opinion?

Anon 2: When did you think Cami knew she was in love with Klaus?

It is hard to pinpoint the exact moment when someone falls in love with another person. Love is built on many little moments until one day, without even noticing how it happened, you realize that that person has changed your life and you can’t imagine yourself without them. It’s a journey with no start or finish.

I do, however, believe that you can’t love someone without knowing them. And because of that, I would have to say that the moment I believe Camille O’Connell really started to love Klaus in the full sense of the word was when he let her in and showed her a fraction of his past back in episode 1x09.

You see, until then Klaus hid his true colors under charm and a cute accent, but she always knew there was more to him than that. It’s why she never gave up on him despite knowing all of the awful things he had done and was still doing. She believed there had to be something, some humanity left in him, but he wouldn’t let her in, and Cami could not love a person who didn’t even allow her to know them. So when Klaus showed her what had been done to him, he was meeting her halfway. It didn’t matter if it was just a small part of his past, it was something; it was proof that he was letting his guard down and letting her in. And in that moment, Camille O’Connell saw the Klaus Mikaelson she knew to be under that monster façade: someone with a good and pure heart who loved too deeply and had suffered too much. She could never be scared of him, because despite him only seeing a monster, she saw him as the most human he had ever been around her. Weak, vulnerable, and broken, but still beautiful. Still worth it.

I don’t know if she realized then and there that she loved him, but she did fall in love with that man. The man only few people knew, the man behind the monster, the man who was so similar to her. Who fought an inner battle between darkness and light, who was desperately holding to any humanity left despite everything he had been through. And the man who was worth fighting for.

As to when Camille actually realized she had feelings for Klaus, I’m not sure, but I am tempted to say it was when he allowed her to say goodbye to her uncle and later saved her from him, in 1x19.

When she was struggling with saying goodbye to yet another family member, he made it easier for her expecting nothing in return. He prevented her from doing something she might regret, gave her one last chance to say farewell and was by her side all along, understanding and comforting her when she needed it the most. And then suddenly, when she asked him to stay a little longer, it hit her. His support meant something more to her than a friend’s. It felt good to have him there because there was a connection between them that made some of the pain go away. Was she ready to admit it just yet? No, she wasn’t, and that’s why ultimately she wanted Marcel to be the one by her side. But she knew then something had changed inside her. Klaus Mikaelson had shaken her world and she couldn’t shake him.

[justsomeitgirl]

I can't stop playing that almost kiss scene in 315 There's just something about almost kiss scenes that get to me. The way he strokes her face & you start to see his fingers sliding to the back of her neck to curl around it ready to pull her into him

This is my kind of ask, anon. Behold one of my favorite Klamille scenes in all its glory: the angst, the acting, the heartbreaking emotion and the sex tension, all in one. It’s pure gold.

[justsomeitgirl]

I read that there was a love scene written for Klamille but it got cut out. If would have stayed in the script when and where do you think it would have happened?

My best guess would be that the 3x09 make out scene led to a sex scene instead of them just falling asleep, but then again I liked the scene exactly as it played out and believe it was important for them to connect on a deeper level, which might not have happened if they had rushed the whole moment and went straight for sex right after their first kiss. I liked how things played out, slowly but intensely. It’s the trademark of their relationship.

My second guess would be at the end of 3x10 when she shows up at his door as a vampire because that was hella hot and could’ve easily led to sex. 

However, I don’t really think there was any great timing for a sex scene between 3x09 and 3x19, to be honest. They had a lot on their plate, especially Cami, and I wouldn’t have wanted for their first time to be something they weren’t both fully invested in, or for them to not even be themselves during the scene. You know when the sex scene would have fit perfectly? When they managed to save Cami in 3x19 and they had both just professed their love for one another, but the writers fucked it up. *sighs*

[justsomeitgirl]

Cami's currently in hell, being eaten by the Devil's hellfire. One of the major antagonists, who are likely the Devil's servants, might get fun of Klaus by showing her.

If you’re talking about the way she appears on the trailer, I would be more inclined to believe it’s Klaus hallucinating on his own and without the influence of the Ghouls (someone pointed out I should correct the “sirens” reference here, and since I have no idea what or who these villains are I’ll take their word for it), because after all he has been imprisoned and tortured for five years; he’s bound to get a little craz(ier)y. In the future, however, I can totally see that happening. His love for Cami is his strength but also his weak spot, and his enemies could very well, as others have done before, manipulate that affection to weaken him.

[justsomeitgirl]

now that the trailer is out what do you think, narducci said that every love story is a ghost story, this season is about ghost i think, and we saw camille, it's a hint?

I don’t mean to disappoint you but I’ve learnt not to trust in anything the writers say except what they actually write and happens on screen. People often post on social media without worrying too much about the meaning someone might infer from that post, but more often than that, writers and the overall crew and cast of a television show post stuff on social media to attract more viewers, because more viewers equals more money. That’s just the way things work. Is MN posting that exact quote on the same day as the promo comes out a coincidence? Hell not. Does it mean anything about the actual direction they will be following on the show? It can go either way, but probably not. Call it fan-bait, fan-service or whatever you want to call it, but that’s what they are doing. I personally don’t like those terms because they let out the wrong idea that pleasing fans is not what you’re supposed to do. It’s exactly what you’re supposed to do, because more fans equals more viewers and, like I said, more viewers equals more money. However, what MN is doing is not quite that. He is trying to lure back a great portion of his audience, whom he lost by killing off Cami, by feeding us a 3 second hallucination to make us want to watch the episode only for us to realize later on that it was just a one time thing and Cami is still dead. Am I falling for it? Hell yeah, but I’m not so blind as to not know exactly what I’m falling for.

Some days ago, when answering this ask, I talked about how Klaus and Camille’s love is a soulmate connection that goes beyond time and space and how you only find a love like that once in a lifetime. That is what I believe in because that is what I watched develop between them over the course of three years, not because I believe a single word MN posts on Twitter. Do I have hope that Camille O’Connell is the one and only love of Klaus Mikaelson’s life? Yes, I do, and I firmly believe that’s the story they are telling, but not because of social media hints.

Note: If this answer seems a bit cold or rude to you, that was never my intention and I apologize. I realize I might have been a little too straightforward but that’s only because I’ve been misled into trusting writers’ off-screen hints way too many times and I always end up getting frustrated. I’m just trying to advise you not to make that mistake as well.

[justsomeitgirl]

Gostaria que você escrevesse um paralelo entre Olicity e Klamille, acho que há semelhanças, pois tenho lido (nos faces do Brasil) comentários que tanto Felicity quanto Camile são ruins para os personagens principais das duas séries, porque fazem com que eles sejam mais humanos. Você concorda com isto?? Como?? Por quê elas são ruins para as séries?? Abraços querida. (Mari - BR)

Translation:I would like you to write a parallel between Olicity and Klamille, I thinkthere are some similarities, because I have been reading comments about howboth Felicity and Camille are bad for the main characters of each show, becausethey humanize them. Do you agree with that? How? Why are they bad for theshows? Hugs darling.

Ihaven’t been as invested in Arrow as I used to be, hence why I don’t reallywrite about it anymore. I suppose there are in fact similarities between thetwo female characters: they are the male lead’s main love interests; they helpthe men they love find their inner light; and they both get a great deal ofhate. You asked if I agree with the fact that both Camille and Felicity are badfor their shows: well, no, I don’t. I think that couldn’t be further from thetruth. But then again, my opinion has to do with my understanding of the showand the characters themselves, particularly Klaus Mikaelson and Oliver Queen.

Commonground can also be found between those two, because they are both on a herojourney and they both started off thinking they didn’t deserve love and afraidto see the goodness in them. The women they love have played a huge role inletting them know they were worth it, in showing them the light within by believingin them even in the worst of times, in guiding them towards it when theycouldn’t see it themselves. I can’t see how that could ever be bad for thecharacters or the show when the endgame is for both of them to finally embracethat light and become heroes by doing so.

I’llbe honest with you about the hate. When it comes to Felicity Smoak, 99% of it isn’t even relatedto the character but to a ship that was dead before it even began and was neverthe actual endgame of the show. People hate Felicity because Oliver Queen iswith her and not their fave. The same goes to Camille O’Connell: people hateher because Klaus’s love for her poses a threat to their headcanon fantasy thatis probably never going to happen. However, I refuse to try and analyze thathate or even justify it. It’s wrong, and it’s stupid, and I won’t even dignifythat sort of behavior by making it rational. Ship all you want, just don’t hatecharacters/actors because you can’t have it your way.

Still, your ask gives me the opportunity to share my two cents regarding the character of Klaus Mikaelson and his villain to hero journey, because in the end your question is about whether humanizing the main character, who used to be a villain, isultimately good for the show, regardless of who contributes to that process. If you would like to read the meta I wrote on that subject, here it is.