#knockaround guys

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KNOCKAROUND GUYS (2001) dir. Brian Koppelman, David Levien

[dinosaursatemydad]

writing a fic for knockaround guys as well if anyone is interested 😌

[kris-lemche-stan]

which kris character's death upset you the most? Did any of them take you by surprise? Did any of them deserve it?

TW: SCHOOL SCH**TING, SU*C*DE, M*RDER

This is a great question! Sorry for the delay, I was trying to create a timeline of his characters deaths.

1) ExistenZ (1999)

ExistenZ follows a game designer, Allegra Geller, who creates a revolutionary virtual reality game. When players start experiencing the game as real life, Allegra and a security guard, Ted, must navigate a confusing world where it’s impossible to tell what’s real and what’s part of the game. Kris’s character plays a small but crucial role during the demonstration of the game ExistenZ, his character invades the game and kills the game’s creator.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? I don’t even have a formed opinion since his role is quite brief.

Did he deserve it? I think I don’t have a formed opinion either, but his death was a catalyst for the start of the events in the movie. He needed to die for the film to happen.

Did it upset you? It didn’t upset me because it needed to happen for the movie to move forward.

2) Ginger Snaps (2000)

Ginger Snaps follows two teenage sisters, Ginger and Brigitte, who are obsessed with death. After Ginger is bitten by a werewolf, she begins transforming into a creature, and Brigitte must try to save her sister while dealing with the dark changes in Ginger’s personality and their violent new reality. Kris Lemche plays Sam, a high school student who gets caught up in the chaos surrounding Ginger’s transformation.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise:? 50/50, I suspected that Ginger might make a new victim at the end of the movie.

Did he deserve it? NO 😭😭😭 I love his character in this movie 😭 bring Sam back!!!

Did it upset you? Yes, it really upset me 😭 It was in this one that I got the most upset.

3) Knockaround Guys (2001)

The plot follows four sons of Brooklyn mobsters who have to recover a lost bag of money in a small town in Montana, ruled by a corrupt sheriff. Lemche plays Decker, one of the four main characters. Although there isn’t a scene showing Decker’s death, what happens to him is clear from the summary of the film’s climax. During the final shootout, it is explicitly stated that “everyone except Taylor, Matty, and Teddy is killed.” Since Decker is not among the three survivors, we can conclude that he dies.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? Yes, kinda expected because he was involved in a dangerous world.

Did he deserve it? I don’t know, I really don’t care about this movie 😭

Did it upset you? No.

4) My Little Eye (2002)

One thing I found out about this movie is that it was one of the first in the found-footage genre, which is pretty interesting. The film follows five contestants in a live-streamed reality show who are systematically terrorized. Kris plays Rex, one of the contestants, who stands out as the most skeptical and analytical member of the group.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? For me, it was a surprise, since I didn’t expect the main characters to be eliminated so brutally. He’s also the most skeptical and rational of the group, which made me think he would be one of the few (or the only one) to survive. This shows that no character is safe, not even the most rational ones.

Did he deserve it? NO 😭😭 I really liked his character. 😭

Did it upset you? Yes, it upset me, I wanted him to survive until the end.

5) Final Destination 3 (2006)

Kris Lemche plays Ian McKinley, a high school student who survives a deadly roller coaster accident, only to find himself caught in Death’s design.

Did you expect it or it was a surprise? Yes, I expected, of course.

Did he deserve it? Of course not, he didn’t. I think he’s often misinterpreted as arrogant and annoying, but that’s just a response to the huge external trauma and the post-traumatic stress of seeing his girlfriend and friends die. I’ve never seen him as a bad person.

Did it upset you? Yes 😭 but I was obviously already expecting him to die.

6) State’s Evidence (2006)

A group of friends decide to commit a mass suicide and film their acts before the day. Kris plays a racist, violent, abusive teenager who carries out a school massacre at the end of the movie. It’s one of the worst films I’ve ever seen in my life.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? Yes, I expected it.

Did he deserve it? He kills himself after carrying out a school massacre, so yes, he deserved it (even though he brought about his own death).

Did it upset you? What upset me was that I wasted my time watching that awful movie.

7) 24: Redemption (2008)

Kris Lemche plays Chris Whitley, a stockbroker who accidentally uncovers a conspiracy involving the U.S. government and a military coup in the fictional African nation of Sangala. While trying to warn the elected president’s son, Roger Taylor, Whitley is hunted down and killed by Jonas Hodges’ henchmen, with his death staged as a suicide.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? I didn’t expect a secondary character to die so quickly, even though Whitley’s death is significant to the plot, as it shows the extent of the conspiracy and how far the people involved are willing to go to eliminate any threat.

Did he deserve it? Considering that Whitley had no intention of getting involved in criminal activities and was a victim of circumstances beyond his control, I wouldn’t say he deserved to die in the story.

Did it upset you? A little.

8) Ghost Whisperer (2007)

Season: 07, Episodes: 01, 02, 05

Kris Lemche plays Scott, a vengeful spirit who haunts the records office in the town of Grandview. His death occurs in a fire caused by a gas explosion, and he mistakenly believes that Melinda Gordon, the protagonist, is responsible for his death.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? He already appears as dead in the story, but he didn’t deserve it.

Did he deserve it? No 😭 His death was the result of a tragic accident, a gas explosion that caused a fire. He didn’t commit any moral wrongdoing or crime, on the contrary, he was a victim of the circumstances.

Did it upset you? Not because he was already dead before the events of the series, but he seemed like a great person before he died, so, yes.

9) The Frankenstein Theory (2013)

Kris Lemche plays Professor Jonathan Venkenheim, a young scholar convinced he’s descended from the scientist who inspired Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. He leads a film crew to the Arctic Circle to find the creature his ancestor supposedly created.

Did you expect it, or was it a surprise? Yes, for me, Jonathan’s death was a surprise. Although he was in constant danger because of the creature, his death happens unexpectedly, especially considering his central role in the story.

Did he deserve it? I really don’t know, even though his death is the result of his obsession and impulsive decisions. He ignored his team’s warnings and kept pursuing his quest, putting everyone at risk.

Did it upset you? No, because he was already taking the risk of doing something so dangerous.

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Thank you so much for your question, sweetheart 💕 If you have more questions, I’m here to answer them (I love doing it).

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Knockaround Guys (2001)

[mistervictorious]

Ya know, in Knockaround Guys, Taylor pushing Matty out of the way and taking the bullets isn't the only instance that proves how much he cares. It's through out the entire movie.

The fact that he went to Montana at all, to help Matty. He was on parole and wasn't supposed to leave the state until another 18 months. But he did anyway, for Matty. He risked going back to prison, probably for life, for Matty.

Then in the Sheriff's Department, when Decker starts beating Matty, he rushed to his aid. And though Deputy Ward startled him with the shot gun, though he demanded Taylor to turn around, Taylor initially didn't. He kept his eyes on Matty and you could see how difficult it was for him not to go and protect his friend. He didn't turn around until the Sheriff pulled Matty into the same room, even when at gun point. He only turned around because he knew that if he got shot, he'd not be able to save Matty from Decker.

Then at the bench scene, Taylor told Matty to go home and leave him there instead. He doesn't care if he dies - he only cares if Matty dies.

That's like the most beautiful thing in the world to me. The guy was willing to literally die just so Matty wouldn't.

He's not like this in general, either. He wasn't willing to die for Scarpa, or Marbles. Just Matty.

Taylor mentions his mom in the movie too - he was even willing to leave her behind to save Matty.

There's no question who the most important person in his life is. It's honestly heart warming.

That pairing needs so much more love.

[mattytaylorknockaroundguys]

The Body Language Of Love (Matty/Taylor)

body alignment (torso and/or feet turned toward you)

smiling

self-touching (men tend to touch their faces when speaking to someone they’re attracted to)

rapid eye blinking

blushing in the cheeks

gazing downward (a sign of submission, typically seen in women more than in men)

head tossing (again, usually a sign from women)

mirroring each other’s physical gestures

nervously yawning

shrugging the shoulders

1.) BODY ALIGNMENT (TORSO AND/OR FEET TURNED TOWARD YOU)

2.) SMILING

3.) SELF-TOUCHING (MEN TEND TO TOUCH THEIR FACES WHEN SPEAKING TO SOMEONE THEY’RE ATTRACTED TO)

4.) RAPID EYE BLINKING

5.) BLUSHING IN THE CHEEKS

6.) GAZING DOWNWARD (A SIGN OF SUBMISSION)

7.) HEAD TOSSING

8.) MIRRORING EACH OTHER’S PHYSICAL GESTURES 

This is proof of an attraction but their relationship is so much more than that. There’s love and a closeness there as well. It doesn’t matter how masculine or manly these guys are, love is love.

Wouldn’t it be great if we all had a relationship like this?

Very close.

Taylor risking his life for Matty.

Taylor watching Matty (you can see the obvious care on Taylor’s face). You wouldn’t expect such delicate feelings coming from a street fighter and legitimate tough guy.

Taylor’s caring expression again.

Togetherness.

The others run off while Taylor helps Matty into the jeep. They are showing an obvious difference in the relationships here. Taylor and Matty have something stronger than the others. Even Marbles and Scarpa who are related.

[knockaroundguysmattaylor]

Knockaround Guys Mafia Roles

Benny Chains - Underboss

Teddy Deserve - Capo

Billy Clueless, Freddy the Watch - Soldiers

Matty Demaret - Associate (temporary)

Taylor Reese - Associate

Basically Matty was working to become a soldier. To become a soldier, you first need to be promoted from the associate level. The associate must prove himself to the family and take the oath of Omerta (swear permanent loyalty). In the movie, Matty was an associate working to prove himself by delivering the bag of money.

* Associates can be relied on to commit acts of intimidation, threats, violence and murder.

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KNOCKAROUND GUYS (2001) dir. Brian Koppelman, David Levien