Hey I'm back. I just wanted to ask how do I start liking rosemary? I hate it because everybody is obsessed with it and I don't understand why so if you could tell me why people like it so much and how I can stop hating it that would be great. :/
i dunno that i can suggest how you’ll start liking it cause not every ship is for everyone and thats fine. i can say i think rosemary, like every canon homestuck ship, is as profound and well-written as davekat, dirkjake, or w.e other ship i talk about.
here’s some links to stuff i’ve already written about them, though once i really figure out Cetus in full I suspect Rosemary and Vrisrezi will have their own posts akin to the davekat one:
Lilith in Starlight, an overview of most of the relationships in Homestuck and how they’re marked as important and fortunate through Light imagery.
A fun look at one of the best logs in the comic, carried out between rose and kanaya
A post i made for rosemary month looking at roughly what i think of their relationship thematically, tho i think my understanding of their depth is far from complete and this post could stand to see at least a few updates anyway
It be me again. There's just no escape. I feel super dumb and stupid and like a piece of stupid trash asking this but can I please have some proof that Jake *like* likes Dirk please if this question is too stupid please don't make fun of me and just ignore it.
have i ever responded to a homestuck question by calling it stupid or making fun of someone?
Serious question. If I make someone feel stupid wrt Homestuck, I’m inclined to believe I’ve done something wrong, because that’s not what I’m here to do. This comic is overwrought and complicated and intricately woven, I’m just trying to make it easier for people like you (and I! I’m always learning more about the comic as I talk about it w/ other people) to parse.
it took me like seven years to feel like i even halfway understand this particular relationship and i still feel like i’m missing stuff wrt most of the comic, so I guess all I’m trying to say is…don’t worry bro? you’re good.
Anyway, the proof is brain ghost dirk.
Dirk isn’t actually present for the Game Over timeline’s events. We see him before Brain Ghost Dirk becomes real, talking to Arquis and trying to find out what’s going on.
And then we see him talking to John, when he’s witnessing the failure of the Alpha Session–and taking it as his personal failure.
The key point here is Dirk never shows any indication of being aware of Brain Ghost Dirk, even though in his last pesterlog before BGD’s appearance he’s trying to understand whats happening in the session and clearly wants to help however he can. It doesn’t make any sense to link Dirk’s agency to Brain Ghost Dirk’s here.
Which is important, since it means Brain Ghost Dirk is a product of Jake’s agency, including this line about Jake being his boyfriend. And this is after Dirk breaks up with him, implying Jake still thinks of Dirk that way, or still hopes they can get together.
It helps that “I am [Name], you [Verbed] my [Loved one], Prepare to die” is a pretty clear reference to The Princess Bride, a movie all about the pure power of love overcoming all obstacles so long as you believe in it. I’ve written about its relevance to reading Dirkjake before, though I wanna do better by the link someday:
This line is a movie reference to The Princess Bride, a romantic fantasy adventure comedy with a very curious dynamic between the romantic leads.
No shortage of people have pointed out how Jake seems to see himself as or end up in the positions of sexualized and marginalized female protagonists, but I think there’s a cause to be made Jake’s “arc” draws from this specific one–Buttercup–above all others. Buttercup’s romantic dynamic with Westley is simple: She issues requests to him, and he responds “As you Wish.”
This As you Wish is an explicit I love you, and the power of love is put forth as the source of Westley’s power and endless competence and ability throughout the entire story. It doesn’t matter what needs to happen, Westley finds a way to do it. And he does it because he believes in their love.
Buttercup, however, struggles to hold on to her faith that love can overcome all things possible and wavers in her commitment to living for it, ending up nearly trapped in an unwanted marriage. Buttercups’ arc is resolved when she chooses to believe in love even at risk of dying, promising never again to hide what she truly desires–Westley.
Jake perceives Dirk as his Prince Charming, an idea that could also be described as a Knight in Shining Armor.
Hey, it's me, can of soda. I was wondering, why do you like dirkjake so much? Like, what does it mean to you?
Haha, funny you should ask that. As it turns out, I’ve been planning to change things up a bit and make a couple videos that are a little...different. One of them concerns this. So I don’t want to answer you here, but here’s a little preview:
I'm sorry. I know I ask questions all the time but I really want to know. When Jake had to kiss Dirk's head and he said "I guess if It was going to go this way. there was stuff I wanted to say, to the real him I mean" what do you think he wanted to say? This is probably a stupid question but If It's not please tell me what you think (btw if you think Im getting annoying with the whole "i hope i dont embarrass mysel" thing just tell me and I'll try to stop worrying so much)
Hard to say! Probably Jake would have questions and a lot of conflicting emotions. These are all things Jake could reasonably want to talk about around that point:
-Stuff about how grateful Jake is for Dirk’s help over the years
-Venting his frustrations about the AR
-Wanting to apologize or at least talk about the jokes he made about Dirk only being a good fit for him if he was a girl, which Jake was aware coulda messed with Dirk’s feelings
-Wanting to make sure Dirk even actually likes him, since Jake mentions he’s not even sure about that half the time and later complains to Jane that Dirk can’t ever seem to just relax and enjoy his company
-Any combination of the above.
In the end it seems he talked about none of it while they were dating. Seems likely they sorted things out by the time of the Masterpiece, though.
Hey, is it okay if all my questions are about dirkjake? I don't want you to feel like you're wasting your time by answeing my stupid questions. I'm just always worried that it's not canon or that they just want the fans to believe that it's canon or that Jake is asexual or something like that. And I don't want people to think that I'm an annoying cringey fangirl. But theres a lot of things that still bother me sorry I'm just slow.
i dont mind at all, i love talkin bout dirkjake. i will mention ive written like 10~ essays on dirkjake specifically, so you might wanna check those out if you more or less want my perspective on the whole ship