I've tried this song and dance with them before. You seem to be making better progress than I on convincing them to abandon the idea that what their father did was okay, but please do not be surprised if your attempts turn out fruitless. They are stubborn.
◇ @loki-son-of-none
Obstinate, et ita simile mihi. Videbimus quis primus in hoc saltatione cadat
(Stubborn, and so very much like me. We shall see who falls first in this dance)












