#lucis worldbuilding

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Thinking about what level of misogyny existed in Lucis, from ancient times to modern, because it has to on some level.

Where The Rogue is listed in the Bestiary, it is directly stated:

“Having lost her father and older brother to daemons, the Rogue was left with no family and no choice but to ascend the throne and rule in their stead. At the time, however, the thought of a woman ruling the kingdom was preposterous to some”.

Predominantly, this indicates that Lucis was a patriarchal society, at least prior to Crepera’s reign (she may have changed laws from the firstborn male to the first born child as a whole, and we have no way of knowing how well the upper echelons of Lucian society took that at the time).

(In contrast, Tenebrae is very much a matriarchal society in my head, considering the lauded position of Oracle to the Gods, and that the three canon oracles we know of are female).

That…also makes me wonder about the different levels of education pertaining to one’s gender in Lucis, even an unknown number of decades/centuries down the line.

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Today on: I think too much on game descriptions, Final Fantasy XV - Comrade’s edition.

Beat That Mug/Body Art Anthology Vol. 6: Magazine that tracks hot trends in facial tattoos/Magazine that talks about what’s booming in body art. This issue focuses on patterns inspired by those of the indigenous people of Cleigne.

Thunderoc Feather: The beautiful feather of a thunderoc used as an adornment in culturally insensitive jewelry. It has some value, and could fetch a decent price.

Hear me out:

Thunderocs originate in the Cleigne region of Lucis.

(I think).

In personal headcanon, the ‘culturally insensitive jewelry’ mentioned in the description of a Thunderoc Feather is referencing at least one of the indigenous people’s of Cleigne, to whom the Thunderoc bird has importance, and the appropriation of their clothing and jewelry styles by Lucis when first conquered, without considering the importance of said clothing and jewelry in their culture.

Which gives me a burning desire for more information on said indigenous people of Cleigne, as well as other regions of Lucis and neighboring countries (such as Galahd), and the appropriation of their culture (presumably by Lucis), and how reparations could have been made - if they at all occurred - and the preservation of their people and culture, their fight to be acknowledged over the centuries of Lucian rule, how open they would be to others regarding it after oppression/appropriation/assimilation, even the potential for genocide against them, etc.

Part of me wants at least one such group of people to have been known as the Ravatogh, who venerated Ifrit - because the Roc of Ravatogh, which is mythologized (accurately) to be Ifrit’s resting place, is in Cleigne and it’s datalog entry mentions people making pilgrimage to the volcanic mountain in honor of the Astral.

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In-game, all of the characters - from Noctis and the Bros in Lucis, through Altissia and Niflheim, plus the refugees from Galahd - speak the same language.

There’s no indication that the different nations have (or had in the past) different languages, but I still like thinking about the concept.

Which makes me wonder what the universal tongue of Eos would be.

It would be some variant of either Niflheim and Lucian, if I had to guess - since both are the only ‘conquering’ nations over a large amount of land (that we know of), and it’s the conflict between them that is the primary setting of the game (until the prophecy kicks in, but still).

Niflheim is the modern conquering empire of the world of Eos, controlling the majority of (known) countries over at least one continent and an island state, and the majority of Eos uses their currency - Gil.

So, the common tongue possibly was rooted in the language of Niflheim.

But it’s also implied that Lucis was once a conquering empire. In the Comrades dlc, there was that one purchasable costumization (I think Body Art Anthology? It was one of the tattoo design purchase for the character from the stores) that referenced Cleigne or another region and referred to the art of that area’s indigenous people - if I’m remembering right.

(If anyone can check this please do so, while I do have the game, I can't play comrades on my laptop - does not load).

As in, Lucis didn’t originally have that region fall under their borders, and people had resided in the area before then - and then one of the previous kings of yore (or regents, who knows?) had that land conquered.

(In-game, Lucis feels so small - you can drive across the whole country in the car. Which makes it kind of easy to forget that the kingdom of Lucis, as a whole, not counting the wall which essentially segregates the Crown City from the other regions, is literally the entire continent.)

So there’s the potential that the common language, though it could be called Niflheim, is already related to common modern Lucian. My reason for thinking about this:

At least one King of Lucis also has their tomb on their other Niflheim/Tenebraen continent - which can mean either it was from a period of time the two nations are friendly as is the Empire’s official stance or Lucis also controlled some land on the other continents as well.

Additionally, We know that that Nox Fleuret family which established Tenebrae originated in the same region as Modern Lucis/Insomnia since the First Oracle, Aera Mirus Fleuret, worked along the founder of the Lucis Caelum bloodline.

When they left the Insomnia region (presumably after Aera’s death), others likely left with them - and maybe that group split off and would eventually become the Aldercapt Dynasty of Niflheim.

Meaning they also originated in the pre-lucis period as Lucians, probably spoke the ancient precursor to the modern Lucian language (which is the equivalent of IRL latin, seen by the naming conventions of the Lucis Caelum bloodline and other characters).

Even as the languages changed overtime, they would still originate from the same place - the Pre-Lucis Insomnia (and possibly Leide?) regions.