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Currently watching Ludwig and Michael’s Tip to Tip/Japan trip reaction live and noticed Iwaoi in Day 4
so... about that vtuber debut?
because of the drama with H3H3 resurfacing and his calling out of Ludwig for being friends with Atrioc, i think it's worthwhile to bring up this video (and this video, and this video, both from before the main channel video) where Atrioc talks about what he's done in the months between the deepfake controversy and then.
For context: In I think April of 2023, Atrioc alt-tabbed and a paid deepfake porn website of various streamers was shown. This obviously got him into heaps of controversy with other streamers. Ludwig made a video on Mogul Mail about it denouncing Atrioc. He was ostracised for months from the Twitch streaming community over this, of course reasonably so. This post is not to defend what Atrioc did, because what he did was deplorable. This post is to clear up why his friends are his friends again.
for those who don't want to watch the video: TLDR, he'd been investing lots of money into programs that can catch and delete AI deepfaked porn. he'd been working with large content creators to get the deepfaked content taken down, and they were very successful in both of these
Ludwig and QT haven't just suddenly forgiven Atrioc because it's been a while. Atrioc educated himself on the topic and put in the effort to make a change and was successful.
Around the time of the update videos, QT and Maya Higa briefly talked about Atrioc on an episode of Wine About It, and QT said that she forgives him but doesn't know if she will be able to be in the room with him again.
I also think it's worth saying, not to defend what Atrioc did, that many people say he watched videos of QTCinderalla (the whole 'he watched videos of his friend's girlfriend!' thing), when there's not any evidence to show this. deepfakes of her were on the website, however there was nothing to show that he watched them. I believe the streamers he HAD watched were Maya Higa and Pokimane.
Again, this post is not here to defend Atrioc for what he did. He did something bad and was punished by the internet accordingly. But I think it's worth saying that, unlike most content creators, he actually made an effort to change himself and get rid of deepfake porn from the internet.
Bringing it back around to H3H3 calling him and Ludwig out: QTCinderalla made a stream talking about the situation when it happened, and she cried. H3H3 recorded himself reacting to it and he laughed at her crying.
Atrioc has not just been automatically forgiven because it's been a couple years. He made an effort to change. And at the end of the day, he and QTCinderalla and Ludwig etc. are all friends IRL, outside of streaming too. They'd been talking and making up behind the scenes as well.
⚠ EMILIA WILL REMEMBER THAT. ⚠
Ludwig icons since he got assigned nonbinary by Prezoh
Ludwig has a really good community for them to tell him off when he acts out of line instead of being some hivemind who treats him as if he's a benevolent angel.
just watched his recent Mogul Mail video, where the comments are just flaming him for his take that Twitch is scamming streamers off because some people's old auto-renewed paid-subscription streaks that broke. if anyone likes your content enough to subscribe to you, they're probably going to just resubscribe. the money you're actually losing is from people who don't watch you nor even want to be subscribed from you anymore, but they forgot they had it set at auto-renew. so, the average consumer is actually saving money because of this mistake from Xsollas; Twitch's payment partner. now notably, its not greedy of Ludwig to be this way, as he's not a even a Twitch streamer anymore, but I think it may say a lot that he thinks the streamers are getting fucked in a situation where consumers just aren't consuming their content anymore.
also as one final thing, it's extremely ironic for said video to be sponsored by Rocket Money, a service that specifically tackles forgotten paid-subscription services and takes them off for you. you know, the exact thing he thinks is a "scam."