Getting help from an unexpected fiend
Drew the first thing that came to my mind after the vid. What if they got Eclipse to help them
Sweet Moon has become a yandere and Im here for it.
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Getting help from an unexpected fiend
Drew the first thing that came to my mind after the vid. What if they got Eclipse to help them
Sweet Moon has become a yandere and Im here for it.
I finished the thumbnail redraw/redesign!
I just wanted to add more to the thumbnail really, just a lot of personal touches. I think it turned out really good!!
(Note: It’s very much established that in MaSm, Sun and Moon do NOT see each other as related)
The thumbnail from that video:
you ever just think abt Them
the mall video, the way moon followed sun, the way he immediately decided the yellow yogurt dispenser was for sun because it had his colors, the way he gave him a coconut popsicle because he wanted sun to be able to try it as well.
the way he knew sun wanted to buy things, and immediately gave him all the coins he found in the mountain so he could buy whatever he wanted. ("Moon! I want to try everything, Moon."
"Okay.")
the laboratory video, with how excited he was to show the things he made off to sun, the way he allowed sun to use them on him in turn for the fact he used them on him.
("Moon, we can't just become a common crimina-- what's this?"
"A chocolate popsicle."
"A...chocolate popsicle?"
"I made it."
"Oh! Like a homemade popiscle? :0"
"Yep."
"Oh my goodness, thank you Moon- I knew you cared about me deep down!"
"Sure.")
-.-
("Don't worry. If you ask, I can make things for you, too.")
the video where they first met monty, where moon told sun that he'd be the one to lie for him, because sun wasn't comfortable doing so himself.
another thing i may note with this episode is that monty never once physically hit sun; he hit moon because he was in the way, but other than verbal threats, he never actually did anything. this carries on to later episodes, too, i believe.
("We can't lie to people, Moon!"
"Yes we can."
"Why?"
"I can. You don't have to; I will.")
he treats FREDDY better than he does SUN. which i find particularly strange because both sun and freddy have the same exact traits.
they're considered the dumb ones, too kind, a bit naive. but in the episode they upgraded freddy, moon was so soft towards him while threatening sun the moment before
("Your joints are connected by screws, I will take off your limbs."
"Freddy, help me! He's threatening to kill me!"
"Uhh..don't kill him, please."
"Freddy, you are a sweet baby boy, move out of the way.")
sometimes i think about how bewildered and offset sun seemed when moon was suddenly being nice to him, the way while happy about it he still chose to keep his distance because something was obviously wrong with moon.
("You're so good at this job."
"...I am?"
"Yeah! You're the best at it."
"..Okay! [nervous laughter] Let's just- now go downstairs!")
moon clearly holds sun in a bit of a higher care than he acts like he does. hell, he panicked when sun was 'missing', and told monty he'd do anything as long as monty gave him back (even if it turned out that monty had nothing to do with it, and that sun was just sleeping.)
("I don't have a ringer! I don't even know what a ringer is! Why are you hitting me?!"
"Because I just had to go get a necronomicon because I thought Monty kidnapped you!")
i will say that the demon and angel episode added a lot of insight on how moon does feel about sun. my only gripes is that it feels like NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT.
("I don't think we should be yelling at him--"
"You're right! i shouldn't be yelling at him! I SHOULD BE BEATING HIM TO A BLOODY PULP!
"I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I just wanted to share my cool science with you.."
-.-
("It's not like you try to get along with me!"
"I don't try to get along with you becase the first thing you ever did was just saying 'Oh, you're so annoying and dumb and stupid!' What do you mean, try?!")
-.-
"I've been trying my best! That's why I've been bringing you along for my adventures!"
-.-
("I made your favorite..."
"I want you to tell me right now what my favorite is."
"Gingersnap.")
it feels like after they got foxy, it went downhill. or maybe it was after roxanne on her own. maybe that isn't fair to them, maybe it is. i don't know. but there was definitely a shift in moon's behavior, to me at least.
because it feels like foxy brought a surge of violence...
("Hey, by the way, Monty? Sun ran onto oncoming traffic."
"I'm not too surprised, the way you treat him.")
...which only seemed to spiral further once they got bonnie.
("You just- he just hit me with the bottom of his gun, Moon!"
"Let the Sheriff do what he needs to do."
-.-
("It doesn't matter anymore, no one likes me."
"If no one likes you, then you'd think you'd try and be a little different."
"Why- why should I at this point?! Screw you, Moon.")
moon considers sun one of his best friends, which we know from freddy of all people because sun's name is literally part of the password to their internet.
("It's the names of his three best friends! Himself, you, and me!"
"I- I don't think you can be friends with yourself."
"Moon's very self-oriented!"
"Yeah, I know that one...selfish guy."
"No, not selfish! Self-oriented.")
can i just say that it's a terrible fact it can even be part of a bar when this is one of the few episodes moon doesn't physically attack sun, and that's only because hes too focused on investigating?
("So you're saying that Sun's the problem because he keeps getting caught!"
"No, you are in fact still the problem, Moon."
"HA!")
that entire conversation with foxy and roxanne both in the video that sun finally, perhaps rightfully if not in the best way, snapped.
("Just drop the gun, Sun- just drop the gun and we'll be okay- this isn't you- this isn't you, dude-"
"This isn't me? YOU MADE ME LIKE THIS! I'm going to enjoy watching you dissipate to nothing.")
-.-
("Why do you want to kill Bonnie so bad?"
"He has done nothing except torture me ever since he has come here!")
i don't know what moon was expecting, when trying to confess to him. moon, bestie, i think the first sign that you fucked up should have been the very moment he assumed that it was a prank. that eclipse was messing with him.
("I'm in love with you-- what?
"So Eclipse is doing something to you, right?"
"What?"
"Eclipse is doing something to you?"
"…n- no?"
"Yeah, okay, I get it. Eclipse, this some kind of big prank trying to get me to say I like Moon in some romantic light because he treats me like garbage all the time? Eclipsee?-- oh.")
that something was wrong with you.
-.-
("...Because I like you?"
"That's not possible. Improbible!"
"I mean, you're a good person, you're nice, you're kind."
"YOU LITERALLY BEAT ME UP EVERY DAY!")
the fact monty was surprised that moon liked sun. which says a lot because it feels like monty's one of the few moon hangs out around, besides foxy and bonnie.
("Yeah, it's because he doesn't believe i'm in love with him."
"Pardon?"
"Byeee.")
the fact that freddy's been trying to talk to moon about it. been giving moon advice. and moon hasn't been taking it whatsoever.
("He's been talking to me about it. He didn't know how to go about it because he thought you would hate him."
"I do hate him!"
"Yeaahh…I know. But I wanted him to learn his own way."
"He literally started beating me for some trivial reason-- for no reason??"
"Yeeeahhh… I know. I wanted him to learn from his own mistakes.")
while roxanne was..close to being a friend to sun, she's also- as much as i hate to say it- more of an...observer? like she doesnt have the- yknow- courage to actually prevent it outside of words. she was on that route of "she has the spirit, but she's too weak-willed to actually do anything about it" i think. because she like,, she did try! but she never actually followed through. all she said was "maybe we shouldn't do that?" and then never actually tried to stop them
and freddy- while he isnt actively doing things...did turn a blind eye to bonnie's antics in the carnival video. he, too, has never once actually said anything about how sun was treated.
the only one who EVER said anything about it was monty, and that was offhand. that and the fact monty said he cheered when sun pulled the trigger on foxy and bonnie. which honestly might as well be the closest person to an almost-friend sun has! because while monty hasn't been particularly helpful, he hasn't outright hurt him either!
for all the times eclipse has tried to send people after sun and moon to kill them (which so has bonnie! so has moon!), at least he hasn't once went under the guise of actually caring for sun. he hasn't lied to him or anything. also!! that time on the roof, with him and bonnie? while eclipse didn't say anything, he didn't dismiss sun either as he ranted about all the things bonnie did to him. he never once interrupted, let him get it out of his system.
which maybe thats the bare minimum! but honestly? despite all his faults, i'd still think sun was better off with him. because at least he knows eclipse doesn't outright care, and so he can't get sucked in that continious cycle of mixed feelings.
this is all just mostly my opinion though so. feel free to disagree, this is just from what i noted, and honestly i might not have worded it the best but its the best i got rip
i dont even know what im trying to say with this tbh. they are just... idk. i miss what they used to be. i wish things were better for them.
I've been thinking about an epic au
Odysseus- MaSM Moon
Penelope- MaSM Sun
Telemachus- Flor (seeds au by @justdrawlynn11)
Anticlea (Odysseus's mother)- MaSM Roxanne
Polities- MaSM Glamrock Freddy
Eurylochus- MaSM Foxy
Antinous- SaMS Miko
Calypso- SaMS Miku
Athena- SaMS Moon
Zeus- Past SaMS Eclipse
Posidon- MaSM Eclipse
Hades- Current EaPS Eclipse
Aeolus- LaES Earth
Hermes- LaES Lunar
Circie- EaPS Puppet
Hera- SaMS KC
Apollo- SaMS Sun
Hephaestus- SaMS Solar
Ares- SaMS Bloodmoon
Tiresias (the prophet)- EaPS Stitchwraith
Astyanax (the infant)- One of the Afton children
Hector- MaSM William
Scylla- Solaris (Dark Sun) and the Dragon (like how Lady Demetrescu's final form looks)
Polyphemus- Nexus
Other Cyclops's- Dark Stars
Circe's Children- Jack, FC, og Freddy
Helios- Dazzle
Lotus Eaters (or in this au's case Bloodbeat eaters)- MaSM Bloodmoon
Argos (Ody's dog)- MaSM Rambly
Sooo, yesterday's MASM episode, huh?
Why is Moonblock, Moonstone, whatever you wanna call him, the way he is? He doesn't make any sense! I'm not going to talk about anything they do in gaming videos, because that's just the VA's bullying eachother, like frinds do.
Pulling Sun along on their adventures as a way to try and bond, helping him (however reluctant that help may be) whenever Sunny goes to him for something, fixing him up during the night, while Sun is sleeping, knowing and making him his favourite cookies (once), wingmanned him a handful of times (the one where he told Sun, Roxy and Foxy to go get ice cream, which turned into the Roxy and Sun date episode, was very sweet of him) ect.
But then turning around, calling him mean names, yelling at him, hitting him, laughing and encouraging when others are jackasses to him (like when Bonnie hung him from the ceiling, and he was up there for days. crying.), joining in on when a child as a form of playing, wanted to stab him - and yeah, sure, he may be made of metal and plastic, so he would've been mostly fine if the kid stabbed him, but just like with the rabbit shooting him with fake bullets, that still hurts, - stabbing him just in general with a sword, blowing him up, letting others shove grass and weeds down his throat and jumping on him from higher and higher with more and more force (which actually could've seriously injured him. they're heavy machines, who were not made to whitstand other heavy machines jumping on them), hitting him and letting him be hit by others with a shopping cart, that half-assed apology in 'Sun Begins His VILLAIN ARC With Eclipse??!!' episode, which kind of sounded condescending if you ask me, basically going "Welp, I tried" when Sun still refused to go back "home", and all the other other sins the little space rock has, but we'd be here all night and I have to watch my bloodpressure.
He clearly wants to be friends with Sun, or at least wants to spend time with him, as I already mentioned. He wants to be close-ish with him. And he claims he likes him, just like how he likes everyone else in the Plex.
But that just feels like he said it, one so Sun wouldn't leave, and two so he doesn't have to directly tell him he likes him.
He sometimes acts almost exactly like the stereotypycal *giggling and kicking feet in the air* "My crush/bestest friend forever and meee <3", but in the most assholeish Karen way of "If A bOy PuLlS yOuR hAiR aNd Is BuLlYiNg YoU! ThAt MeAnS hE iS cRuShInG oN yOu!"
Like, "Oooh I'll write me and Sun's name together as the password🥰! But throw in someone else's name aswell, so if he ever finds out I can just say it's me and my two friends!!"
Make it make sense!
This post was meant to be about how the way everyone acted in yesterday's episode 'Sun Continues His VILLAIN ARC And Plans REVENGE...' felt heavily like it was backtracking. But I kind of got sidetracked with talking about the little space rock.
How "Yeah, I only was an ass to you and abused, so you would reach your literal breaking point, snap and go join Eclipse, so I could try and catch him. Proud of ya, or whatever I'm supposed to say, here's a plush... Still going to shoot you. Because why not." and "Ohh ya know, stabbing people is just Foxy's way of showing he loves you! Classic Foxy teehee!" just felt like some poor attempt at damage control. Same with suddenly everyone wanting to hang out with Sun, the one time he wanted to be left alone.
I'm not counting Freddy, his IQ is room temperature on good days, and I mean it in the nicest of ways. As nice as can be.
But why do suddenly everyone else want to hang out with Sun, like he's suddenly the most interesting of people. Though they're still hitting him with gokarts, insisting they need to look at something at the back of his head (a bump which may or may not have even been there), and when he rejected the idea of them looking at his head, clearly uncomfortable, they surrounded him, held him down, and forcibly checked his head and then fixed(?) it.
And then when he wanted to be alone again to cry, they still wouldn't leave him be. The rabbit actually wanted to watch.
In short, because I truly lost where I was going with this post and just started ranting, yesterday's episode felt like everyone attempting to backtrack a little, but falling back into the comfortable habits, the little space rock confuses me (what do you want?! do you want to be friends? do you want to hold hands with him in the most romantic of ways? do you just view him as a sentient punching bag?! do you just want to keep him around and fix him up, so he can do all the daycare stuff so you don't have to?!), I hate the rabbit so much, same with the gator and the fox, disappointed in the others, and Sunblock. Deserves. Justice.
As much as I like Nightlight/Moon x Sun (masm), I honestly don’t like the route it’s going in, not just the ship but honestly just the channel in general, Moons just starting to annoy me at this point
Just my opinion tho
Tbh I liked their relationship before Bonnie and Foxy came around and things just got chaotic as hell and even though they’re dead now it feels even more chaotic with Moons whole evil insane obsessed yandere arc. I liked it better when things were a bit more peaceful and less energetic and Moon was less crazy
I’m not saying I want the whole channel dedicated to some romantic and cute lovey dovey stuff with Sun and Moon, I just miss when things were more slow paced :’)
More drunk Eclipse stuff:
Eclipse: Uhg! I feel horrid. What happened yesterday?!
Sun: Should we tell him?
Moon: Nah, let him find out on his own
What happened:
Moon: Eclipse! STOP!
Sun: Watch OUT!
(After Sun and Moon bandaged his hand, he got out of their grasp and went to tackle Monty for some reason) (I hate drawing Roxy) (I also do not draw the Glam Rocks often)
Sun and Moons After party pt 1 pt 2 pt 3
The parts are in order of when I posted them not in order of when they take place. I might change that later
Timeline post thingy
Sun would have gotten away with what he was doing if Freddy, Roxanne and Foxy didn't get in the way first
Yes I'm blaming them, I purely believe that Freddy CHOSE to erase some of Suns memories. And here's why,
Freddy said that Moon gave him a drink of some sort to give to Sun(and apparently he was given two since he gave Sun the same thing at the end of the video) right? Keep that in mind
I don't think Sun ever had that "bump" surely if he did they all would have noticed a while ago. Now you're probably thinking "But Bumble he had hit his head in the elevator so he gained it from that" and you could be correct, maybe he did gain the bump from when he hit his head(ofc that wouldn't have happened if the other three weren't purposefully trying to run him over with a go kart. But it also just seems unrealistic considering the fact that he got shot at and blown up earlier in the video)
But i don't think that bump would have caused memory loss when it was fixed. I think Freddy, and the others, purposely made Sun hurt his head, or tried to hurt him, so they had a excuse to use Freddy's "healing powers" on Sun to fix it. To Sun, they were talking about the bump, to everyone else Freddy was "healing" Sun's memory and emotions. All at the request of Moon.
Remember that drink I was talking about? Why would moon give Freddy two? Surely Sun wouldn't drink the second one if he remembered and knew it would harm him right?
I believe that Moon told Freddy to give him ONE of the drinks, then he would find a way to get close to Sun, erase his memories and then give the SECOND drink to Sun to see if he really did forget everything from the past few weeks. If Sun refused the drink, they would know he remembers things. And then they would have to try again. If he took the drink then they know that they have succeeded in "healing" him
After all, they don't believe sun would ever be capable of lying to them and tricking them. And maybe that's a correct assumption, maybe it isn't. We don't know.
EVERYONE knew this plan, why else would they be nice and give him gifts and try their hardest to stay close to him and Freddy? Why else would Freddy try so hard to spend time with Sun if not to "heal" him at Moons request. I mean, Freddy hasn't tried to hang out with Sun that much before. Why did he start now?
Moon knew that he couldn't do it since Sun doesn't trust or likes him, so he got Freddy(someone who hasn't physically abused Sun(despite being no better at this point)), Roxanne(someone who believes she's nice to Sun, and who Moon believes Sun likes a lot) and Foxy(someone Moon still thinks Sun likes)
He told them what to do, told everyone else to either leave Sun alone or be nice to him for a few hours whilst they did the plan, and meanwhile he would be out with Bryce(true or false idk) so that Sun doesn't end up thinking Moon has something planned.
Anyway that's all I wanted to share, Sun is still my favourite. I hate everyone else, literally. And Sun has no right to match well with the rainbow scarf. Seriously it goes so well with his colour pallette wtf!?