people see jason brute forcing his way through a problem and think its cause hes not smart enough or because he has no patience or that hes inherently violent etc etc
but its like. hes only brute forcing his way through things when he determines that thats the best and/or most efficient way to do things in that moment
he had all the same training dick did under bruce and no one thinks dick is stupid
and we have pages and pages of examples of jason being clever and patient and kind but people see "oh well he killed people" and draw the line at "violent" being his main character trait. its so crazy to me.
the man who spent three hours setting a bomb on the batmobile THAT HE DIDNT EVEN USE, and this was """peak violent""" jason times where he was actively killing people
and it spans across a bunch of different iterations of his character
i think back to that scene in the gotham knights game where hes like "okay im gonna go rough up some goons to get the info we need"
and everyone jumps down his throat about how thats not how they do things and they have this other piece of info that they need to look into first and then are all immediately proven wrong and they DO have to go rough up some goons to get the info they needed its just like. even batman uses fear and intimidation to get information, thats a huge part of his whole Thing, but jason is the only one getting shit for doing it?