Hey you all know Tolkien's orcs did not invent modern industry right? It's important to me that you know this, the orcs within Tolkien's books are either enslaved or soulless automatons depending on which origin you read about them. All industry that occurs within mordor and isengard comes from the minds of Sauron, Saruman and any number of 'evil' human servants, plans which are then monotonously enacted by the orcs but without understanding or control. The Last Ringbearer is a cool fanfic but it does not represent the reality of the orcs as presented in-world, they are explicitly a so called 'tribal' and 'barbaric' 'creature' that supposedly invents nothing of worth and cannot survive without raiding other so called 'good' races. The much-mentioned conversation between the two orcs in Cirith Ungol about their discontent (whilst noteworthy) does still involve their plans to become bandits together, the only possible path for them. Many orcs are so dependant upon the control of Sauron that they kill themselves upon his defeat. Like I love the effort to excavate orcs from their grim origin, but you do not have to attempt to pretend Tolkien was being less racist than he was to do that. He may have been extremely against modernity, but the theme of modernity's hubris in his books is one exclusive to the powerful, enlightened and 'fallen' humans and maia. And orcs are a race presented as so 'base' and without merit that there is nowhere for them to fall from, hubris is simply not a part of their canon narrative.
















