#non paleo

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[Grabs you and turns you into this]

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So anyway you know that thing when you see art of a non-mammalian creature and you can very clearly tell the artist only knows how to draw canine anatomy ?

yeah.

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Uh oh Adam, full trailer’s out. Give us the text wall or give us death! (/positive, love reading and learning from folks like you)

Honestly i’m not surprised, i even predicted the half assed feathers, and i’m not saying that to boast myself as much as to say that it was insanely predictible, both in how they’d try to bait people who want more accurate dinosaurs in media, and in how dreadful the result looked.

What wasn’t so predictible, albeit not too surprising if i’m being honest, is the paleo community’s piss poor handling of that. A lot of people are cheering for that pile of garbage and it’s honestly weird as hell when the only decent-looking design in there is Quetzalcoatlus.

^ Even with the pointed wing tips and occasional weird bipedal stance it looks decent, my only complaint is that the eyes are weirdly placed and it makes it look like a theropod.

Trevorrow isn’t a child or an amateur paleoartist, he’s the director of a movie working with a LOT of money, complimenting a cheap lizard-faced half naked maniraptoran in the year 2022 just because it has wings is not doing someone any good, if JW truly wanted to do an effort, then all the creature designers would have been paleoartists.

In fact i’d argue that giving this movie any credit is only encouraging journalists to go even more ham about how accurate Dominion is, since even some paleontologists have given it the “you tried” star treatment.

The designs alone (and they ARE terrible) aren’t even the only issue here, the context of the scenes which design was show only makes it worse, not to mention how desperatly tropey and inconsistent the movie’s currently known lore in itself is.

Note how the feathered dinosaurs are treated in the trailers we’ve seen them appear in so far:

- In the cretaceous scene, the Tyrannosaurus is briefly seen feathered, this is before it is killed by a kaiju covered in croc plates.

- The only hybrid (Regular, not chimera) dinosaur that is extensively feathered is shown in the snow, despite the real animal’s habitat being a hot archipelago, and the hybrid itself being ass out.

So we got feathered dinosaurs being implicitely shown as weaker than a very innaccurate monstrous one, and we got “feathered dinosaur lives in cold climate”. Good shit, truly it is woth praising as an effort and we should all say thank you to mister Jurassic World.(/s)

Oh, by the way, the artificial Pyroraptor has wings, but the supposedly actual Cretaceous Oviraptor doesn’t, and it also has pronated hands.

Yay for consistency.(/s)

Honestly i’m gonna go on a limb and say that they only chose Pyroraptor for the name, because it lacks anything that tells us that it is Pyroraptor, since, pretty much the only thing we know for sure about it is that it was Tiny, about the size of a cat, which JW instead trades for something closer to a Deinonychus in terms of size. And yes i am aware that JP/JW oversizes dromaeosaurs, but when “Bitch’s small” is the only thing known about a dinosaur, then maybe that’s your call to not use it if you want a larger animal.

I’ve actually had this reply in the works for a while now because i’m honestly so upset about Dominion butchering my favorite dinosaur, and making it mainstream in the worst way possible, that i’ve been learning to use Blender properly within the span of a few weeks all for the sake of making my own Pyroraptor, and i wanted to get to a point where i had a decent WIP to show. (this should hopefully be made into an ARK mod eventually, hence the stylisation of the snout scales and head size)

Rant about Pyroraptor and shameless plug of my own art aside, the other designs, as i mentioned, with the exception of Quetzalcoatlus, are honestly very bad too.

I’ve mentioned the Oviraptor, it’s fully feathered, with a pretty tail, and yet does not have wings and has broken hands. It’s also shown eating eggs, i don’t think i need to explain why this was a stupid decision.

The Atrociraptors are just edgier raptors with a Megalosaurus head and unnecessary accent scales. That’s it, that’s all they are, they just wanted more monstrous raptors.

Funny enough the Therizinosaurus got the Baryonyx treatment of Mattel making a toy that looks better than the movie’s design.

At least the Toy has long claws....

I suspect that beyond random toy designers somehow being more knowledgeable about dinosaur anatomy than the JW creature designers, this also has to do with JW’s designs not even really fitting a live action setting. Most of JW’s prominently featured dinosaurs have this toy quality to them, which comes out very weird in the movies, and honeslty kind of feels like the dinosaurs were made to be easy to turn into toys, which wouldn’t be surprising considering the wole franchise, in itself, is a cashgrab.

In fact, they do look far more fitting aesthetically in Camp Cretaceous, a cartoon with a stylized artstyle that fits those designs much better.

Also while we’re talking about aesthetic appeal.... Can we talk about how they put basically the same head on the Giganotosaurus and the Pyroraptor ?

And honestly i don’t even want to talk about what they did to Dilohosaurus, they could have at least had the decency to make the scene darker so the awkwardness of that thing wouldn’t be quite as bad.

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Yesterday i sent a picture of that cursed indoraptor funko pop to a friend and they said something like "it looks like a failed attempt at making a catgirl" and i can't stop thinking about it.

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Crawling out of my haitus just to say that people who do this:

Don't have rights.

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Just realized the doninion feathered raptor doesn’t even have lips

They’re not even trying to be as much as consistent anymore.

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Ok so, i don’t enjoy going off topic too much and getting into personal drama, however this seems to have taken some ridiculous proportions.

@iamthekaijuking did nothing wrong, if you see someone trash him, ask for evidence.

He is being slandered for asking to cease contact with a person who took the side of people who harassed him for talking back to someone who accused the entire paleo community of horrible shit.

He and another person were targeted because they were younger, meanwhile, despite also replying to the said individual, established paleo blogs got far less shit thrown at them.

They targeted smaller, more vulnerable people, and when one of them tried to distance himself from a group of people supporting these actions, he was accused of gaslighting, and there is now a fucking smear campaign after his ass. Notice how they will mention him by name, meanwhile keeping other people they claim are on his side vague and rarely mentioning names.

Kaiju is not a transphobe, nor did he gaslight anyone,

his only mistake was to stand against a bad person who happened to be a trans woman, and used that as argument to call anyone who didn’t agree with her transphobes, and make herself look a victim, with the support of an individual known to harass and bully people tweeting, blogging, and doing art in the online paleo community for many years. These people are few, but as i noticed from the ammount of times i’ve seen that pop up, they are obnoxiously loud.

Kaiju is their scape goat, but their hatred is towards all of us.

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Just a heads up

I’ve been informed that the Beast of Bermuda official Discord server has been using paleoart, for reference for playable animal suggestions, without crediting artists.

tl;dr: Here is most of the uncredited art featured on the server 

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/15WrgIG71h527LfVsma3K_LtN2yVLnKBWBQByQG7M0yg/edit

The devs have been made aware of the issue, but have refused to place a rule asking people to credit artists when posting paleoart.

(full post below)

The art theft was pointed out to the devs, however they have refused to install a rule that asks people to credit the original artists, instead going for a not so helpful “we take it down if the artists comes to us and asks for it”, and forbidding any further debate.

Some of the artists that have gone uncredited have made it openly clear in the past that they are not ok with their art being used like this. It is art theft, and as game devlopers, the BoB team is responsible for their community's behavior on their discord. "The artist needs to ask us not to" is not an acceptable answer.

Many paleoartists already have their art stolen left and right, and used without credit, it is not helpful to the artist, and, if you're gonna use an artist's work, you should at least put in the effort to find the artist who made the bigger effort to make this piece and credit them, or else not use their art at all, it should be a mutual act: you get to use that art, the artist gets credit so that people can find them. If you won't put in the effort to do a reverse google search to find the artist, other people won't, it's that simple.