#okapimstari

[goldenkamuyhunting]

I always like to read your chapter reviews, answers to questions or just fandom's discussions. I can agree with almost every word in your posts. You are a very sensible, reasonable and well-read person and you know how to notice a lot of details and build interesting logical chains. Thank you very much!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

I can’t really express well how happy it makes me to hear you saying so, especially in a moment in which my ramblings are likely pretty boring since they aren’t just gushing praises for the writing so again THANK YOU!

[goldenkamuyhunting]

Perhaps Noda removed the moment with "smoothtalking bastard" to play with the reader, make a plot twist and remind what Ogata really thinks. It is possible that right now Ogata is doing to Tsurumi what he did to him and others. Manipulates, gives hope (salvation from this train), allows to think desired. And that's why Tsurumi got angry at the end - when he realized that Ogata was mocking. At least I would really like it to be that way. And not because Ogata became a idiot in favor of the plot.

To be honest...

I think many of us, myself included, hope that Noda removed those bits not to retcon them but to delude us into believing Ogata trusted into Tsurumi only to later remind us he never did.

I’ve to say it would be interesting if this was Ogata’s idea of getting his revenge on Tsurumi. Acting as if he fell for his tricks and sweet words and then had a jealousy attack in an attempt to manipulate Tsurumi with ‘sweet lies’ as well.

Though Ogata wasn’t painted as a good liar so yes, Tsurumi might have smelled up the fact Ogata is just tricking him (never mentioning Tsurumi is very clever and an expert liar so he might have smelled it up even if Ogata were to be good).

On the other side there’s this bit in Vol 10...

...and I’ve always wondered if it would eventually come up again. Ogata has been presenting for so long a certain image that he (and Tsurumi too) might have lost part of their sense of self.

And they also act very confident and in control so as to make people believe in them.

But we’ll see. As I’m pretty involved in this topic I’m not really the most reliable one, never mention Ogata’s words were often vague enough that even translation matters might be at play.

What confort me is I’ve heard a good part of the Japanese fandom too, despite being able to read the story in Japanese, felt confused by this development.

I just want to hope everything will end in a satisfactory manner as we’ve been trying to figure out Ogata for a long time and a retcon would be the most displeasing result. Thank you for your ask!

[goldenkamuyhunting]

I remember that one of the old japanese (and not only japanese) methods of contraception for men was overheat. It could be a hot bath or something similar. The activity of spermatozoa decreased and the man lost the ability to reproduce for some time. Even now men are warned not to get carried away with heated seats in the car for example. Obviously this method had effectiveness. So I thought about Ogata who puts the stove between his legs at every opportunity... Hm. Interesting it's purposeful?

Oh, this is interesting...

although I find funny how  I would have never have guessed I would learn such things by being in the GK fandom! ^_-

It’s kind of fascinating!

I don’t think it’s purposeful, I think it falls into the joke of him being a cat... and I sympathize with him because I’m also the sort of person who get as close as possible to each heat source (which is precisely what I’m doing as I type... I’m always all pressed up against a heater... but well, I’m also on the ending line of the joke ‘you’re like a cat’... even my cat watch me and say ‘you’re one of us’...) but I think it’s still interesting.

Who knows, if Noda is aware of it, keeps Ogata alive and thinks to a flash forward in which everyone have a normal life maybe it’ll come up in the plot?

Thank you for this new info!

[goldenkamuyhunting]

In theory now thanks to Kadokura fake skins can be found. After all, he fell with it first in a puddle and then on the kettle. But in brewing are used copper boilers including in Sapporo. It is even called copper. The tannin with which Edogai tanned the skins gives a color reaction with iron, not with copper. So, I think that this is an artistic license. But what if this is an unexpected plot twist and fake skins will not be found?

Ops...

I’m not really familiar with brewings so I was so sure that thing was made with iron and that was the whole point of having wetted the skins and then having Kadokura slam against it! I feel so dumb now...

>_<

Noda probably did his research though, so I fear this means the ‘slamming against boiler’ scene didn’t cause the wet tattooed skins to react.

Maybe he’ll have them react to something else... or maybe Sugimoto and Shiraishi will end up captured by Tsurumi and it’ll be Tsurumi himself who will reveal the trick when he’ll check if their skins are fake or not.

We’ll see.

Overall I expect someone will divide the fake skins from the real ones. At this point I’m not sure who will be the one who’ll do the trick but I really wish for a reason why the fake skins also had to get wet so I like to hope they’ll get into contact with some iron.

We’ll need to wait and see though.

Thank you for the head up about the boiler!

[goldenkamuyhunting]

In the regular army privates consisted of peasants and were in fact mostly illiterate. Or less-illiterate (they could only read). But Border Guard Corps was a separate structure from the army. And although recruits to the lower ranks were recruited from the army. But due to the peculiarity and importance of the service they tried to teach privates at least a minimum of literacy in the initial education at the Corps.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THOSE GREAT INFO!

All this is really interesting!

I love how Golden Kamuy is also a beautiful chance to get into history and different cultures! really, thank you so much!

[goldenkamuyhunting]

When I first read Ch255 I got the impression that Jack might have slept with his mother. Not all inmates of monasteries sought to afraid of their honor after graduation. Some hurried to try different pleasures. I was confused that a random woman on the street came up to him and told him about the birthmark (I don't think he run around without his pants). So I think that he got a prostitute and then she told him about the mark. And then Jack went mad on topic with the immaculate conception.

Well...

honestly the impression I got is that the woman who told him to be his mother was, for Ostrog, an unknown woman who appreoached him. If he had inheirted his looks by his father it’s possible she figured out who he was.

Ostrog after all not only is sure he’s an immaculate conception but expects others to be as such as well.

But probably Ostrog’s backstory will be expanded and possibly changed in the volume version so it might be premature to discuss about it.

As for Ogata... I’ve been told Noda has/had a cat so i think he’s aware that cats can feel pain... but the idea Noda might be trying to portray an old belief is interesting.

Ogata is a tough guy... though this might be tied also in his psychological problems... I wish he would just get better...

[goldenkamuyhunting]

Why does Vasily need spoons? My friend @upn-the-sky suggested reasonable idea about spoons. Vasily stole two spoons to compete with Ogata in the sniper craft. Spoons stick into the ground at a certain distance and you need to shoot its down. This is truly a real practice of checking accuracy. Mb during the trip Vasily admitted to himself that he was honestly defeated! There is also the option that he will use spoons as a mirror for false glare to make Ogata give himself away with a useless shot.

Your friend’s idea is interesting!

And I would love for the spoons to be of some surprising relevance for the plot as I like when Noda does this, introduces an element that seems apparently meaningless and then puff, reveals its importance.

It would also fit with how Vasily seemed to be characterized before, as a cool and cold sniper instead than an overexcited teenager about to meet his crush, if he actually took the spoons and Sugimoto’s rifle for an unknown purpose and not because he wouldn’t think straight.

However so far Noda hadn’t revealed if there’s a purpose behind Vasily taking the spoons, giving the general implication Vasily is just too excited to think straight.

But well, as I said it would really be good if Vasily’s actions only seemed random and due to overexcitement and actually had a meaning instead.

We can only wait and see but thank you for sharing your and your friend’s theories! ^_^

[goldenkamuyhunting]

Hello! I want to add about Vasily's literacy. At the Border Guard Corps there were regular education teams. The initial education took place over a period of 4 weeks and included, among other things, the acquisition of at least primary literacy. Many have learned literacy thanx to service.Of course some people neglected their studies and didn't mastered sufficient reading and writing. But I would like to think that even if Vasily was illiterate initially he took the opportunity to get knowledge.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFO!

I liked to think they would provide them a basic knowledge, if anything to read written orders but I couldn’t find any confirmation for this so your info is very welcomed! Really, thank you so much!

If I can ask, do you maybe know if this applied also to guardians of lighthouses like Svetlana’s parents? We’ve been wondering about them too and if they read the letter Svetlana supposedly wrote to them or if the letter was written by Tsukishima who also read it to them.

Anyway thank you so much for the info!