#outlander negativity

[frankie-catfish-morales]

Outlander negativity below the cut.

People are so anti on Roger Mackenzie but then when Jamie grabs Claire and doesn't let her leave, and forces kisses on her when she's clearly upset, they say nothing, and that shit makes me REALLY fucking uncomfortable. I'm sorry, i love Jamie, but i fucking HATE when they write him doing that shit, and it makes me very grossed out. And then they sit there afterwords and laugh about the fact that he left a bruise on her. Nope. Don't like it. But god forbid Roger get upset about someone keeping a secret from him.

[fuckyeahclairebeauchamp]

Can I be angry? because I'm so angry!!!!!!!!!!

Girl scream and shout until you turn blue because I am too. If they plan on saving the conversation where she tells him she gave it all up for him I’m fine with that, but that hug and the end scene could have gone a very long way in making this episode okay for me. Why are they cutting every piece that makes this couple who they are? This is season 2 logic all over again. They might be working up to something big in the next couple of episodes, but I am not here for straight up Jamie and Claire angst with two episodes of sweetness to try and make up for it. There better be a big pay off at the end of all this.

[frankie-catfish-morales]

"The writers are moving away from this storyline cause this ship that is canon had 2 fucking episodes after 4 years..." Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Y'all are being fucking babies.

[fuckyeahclairebeauchamp]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if when Bree meets Jamie she continues to just call him "Jamie" while she raves about "Daddy" because she likes the dude well enough but it's not like their relationship is that important, she finds it real cool that he loves her Mom though, thinks that's really nice, believes his feelings are honest, and gives her blessing, like any good stepchild would (Claire shrugs resigned in the background, because well, it could be worse at least everyon'e alive!)

I’m reaaaaally curious about these scenes next season and not in a good way. I have my own concerns about this and MBR writing the episode they meet doesn’t help my fears. 

*spoilers*

ITA agree though. They’re probably going to combine Bree/Willie showing up at the Ridge at the same time so each kid gets equal chance to bond with daddy, but it’s really going to be Jamie/Willie while Bree gets the shaft coz she’s going to be a pregnant whore by then. Hopefully we get Bree/Murtagh to at least make this palatable. 

[frankie-catfish-morales]

Second time trying to read through book 2 of Outlander, and I just can’t do it. I very rarely give up on a book. There are several reasons for this:

First, I just don’t find the story as interesting as book 1. I lose interest halfway through every time.

Second, The relationship between Claire and Jamie gets weird to me. After Claire springs Jamie from jail by sleeping with the king, there is a scene that just makes me really uncomfortable:

I don’t like this. It makes me really uncomfortable, especially with how people act like Jamie and Claire are PEAK romance. It makes me no longer care about them, their storylines, their relationship. It kind of disgusts me. I love their characters individually, but often the sources of conflict she writes for them are borderline domestic violence, and while I don’t mind reading that stuff when the author clearly frames it as such (I can read ASOIAF no problem), Diana writes it as if it’s romantic? Like it’s ok? And it’s not ok.

I was trying to get through this book so I could read about Young Ian, Fergus, and Marsali, but I just can’t. 90% of these books are Jamie and Claire, and the way Diana writes them makes me uncomfortable.

[themiddleliddle]

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Tbh I wish I’d never read the book because that’s where most of my disillusionment comes from. I don’t think I’d be quite as disappointed if I’d just stuck with the show. But still, the show turned out to be... underwhelming, which was really disappointing because it had seemed so promising.

[themiddleliddle]

Warning, you might not want to click the Read More if you’re an Outlander fan. And if you are a fan and you decide to click, please don’t hold it against me.

I feel truly, genuinely sad when I think about what a bitter disappointment Outlander turned out to be for me. I have rarely been so excited to get into a new series, and I was just so sure it was going to become my new obsession, because how could it not? It had so many of the things I love! Amazing female characters, Jacobites, Scotland, spies, glorious scenery, costume porn, Lotte Verbeek in costume porn, a charismatic cast, beautiful opening credits, a stunning soundtrack, and there appeared to be an active and enthusiastic fandom. I was so sure I’d love it that I even changed my url briefly to an Outlander-inspired one before I’d ever read the books or watched the show.

But then I started reading the first book, and, well, I’ve talked enough in the past about it that you’re all well aware of my issues with this series. As I read, I could feel myself becoming more and more deflated, more and more turned off, until I finally gave up entirely on both the books and the show. 

I know I’m being overly dramatic, but thinking about it makes me sincerely sad. Watching the opening credits still gives me that giddy sort of fannish thrill you get when you think you’re about to watch something you’re really, really going to love, and just, ugh, it could have been so great. WE COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL. 

[themiddleliddle]

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I’m giving this week’s episode a hard pass. I read the book, I know what happens, I feel NO desire to SEE it happen, and DG’s comments on the whole thing have made it feel unbearably gross.

Yeah, that scene was awful enough to read about, seeing it would be almost unbearable to me.

I was willing to let DG’s first comment go, because she made it years ago and I thought, well, maybe she’s learned and changed her outlook since then, but apparently she’s STILL saying shit like that???

Gross, DG. Groooooosssss.