#panic at the discourse

[ambulancelivedebut]

patd literally going from rivaling mcr in aesthetic and theatricality to bland radio pop is the biggest disappointment of this decade and also an insult to ryan ross’s name

[kobrakids]

not to be constantly dunking on brendon urie even tho we all know he deserves it and much worse but sarah smiles is like. not a very flattering song to be about his (future) wife lmao

[handshakewdeath]

Wait what happened with panic?

Oh gods there’s a lot - it’s kind of been a sinking ship post-v&v era but the tldr is that brendon is just Not a good person. Between marketing girls/girls/boys as a pride anthem, making money off of saying it’s a pride anthem and then quietly saying years later in an interview (with paper magazine iirc) that it’s actually about his first threesome (I’d be happy to explain in more detail why that’s a harmful and distasteful thing to say if you need me to), to releasing a mess of an album with pray for the wicked and essentially erasing the legacy of everyone who has been in panic with “high hopes” by acting like he got this far all on his own merit he’s really just let his ego consume him. I’m sure there are other stories out there about brendon but those are the things that really drive me up a wall with him, not to mention collabing with taylor swift who, prior drama/scandals aside, profited off of and minimized lgbt+ suffering with you need to calm down on the same album as the hopeless travesty that is me!, brendon is just kinda a lifeless corporate puppet of who he used to be and I’m tired of him getting lauded as some “emo music genius” when the creativity of early panic came from Ryan ross and there are countless acts in the scene doing better than he’s ever done after v&v. Basically - I’m so glad Dallon is getting the recognition he deserves in idkhow that he deserved when he was in panic for keeping that shitshow afloat. Go stream the 1981 extended play.

[teenagefreek]

are u like,,,,,,, ok?????? whens the last time u talked 2 some1 irl???? have u ever met a str8 person, i think it'll help

[moved-theultimatesupremerobot]

What's sup you cheeky lil shit? You lil wasp thing you. buzz buzz. Cry us a river, desu.

W-WORM?

[rathbian]

Sexism and Danganronpa

Apologies for the length of this post but this issue needed to be addressed. There have been some fundamental misunderstandings in how sexism works in the DR fanbase and I want to clear them up in relation to discourse surrounding certain characters, namely Tenko Chabashira and Kaito Momota.

I’m sure everyone knows how much discourse Tenko has been in. We’re here to focus on one part of that: her supposed sexism through misandry. To clarify, misandry does not exist as an axis of oppression. Allow me to explain. A decent chunk of what is considered misandry is actually the result of misogyny or a different form of oppression(the backlash against gender non-conforming men due to equating presenting in a way that’s perceived to be feminine or gay for example). The rest is either a: not considered systemic oppression(discrimination by law or by a history of societal standard) or b: injustice caused by individuals which should not be considered an equivalent to misogyny but instead the fault of the individuals perpetrating it. 

Someone making a blanket statement about hating men is not misandry. Blanket statements made by an oppressed group of people about their oppressors is not a targeted statement to any particular individual of that class unless the statement applies to them. Additionally, as oppression is inherent(affording one advantages over those who are not oppressed in that manner) and not merely active discrimination, one cannot cast off the label of oppressor, which is not a bad thing on its own, all this means is that one must be conscious of this fact when interacting with others. Statements like these are not an attack on a given person or a wish of ill will onto every member of a group but, rather, an expression of frustration with particular facets or behaviors of this group that are unsavory. They are hyperbolic in nature and hold no real power due to how oppression works, as oppression is one-sided, or completely improbable and impractical threats that absolutely cannot be followed through on. In other words, do not take someone who says that they hate men personally, whether as a man or a misguided attempt to protect men from something that doesn’t exist. 

How then, do we address Tenko’s hatred for men? As discussed before, some things perceived as misandry can be sourced in misogyny, which can be applied to this case. In fact, Tenko’s entire existence is steeped in misogyny, from her history in canon to her treatment by the fandom and even by Kodaka himself. I’ve spoken briefly on this before, through a submission on @momotaphobe, about the misogynistic culture surrounding how Tenko was raised to hate men in order to remain pure and innocent. The manipulative and infantilizing behavior of her teacher is never stated to be wrong, instead placing the fault on Tenko for not realizing her teacher’s hypocrisy, and the fetishistic nature of this trope is indulged in by the inclusion of the Love Hotel scene. Between this, Kodaka writing her into a corner by making a grand majority of her scenes revolving around either her hating men or being infatuated with Himiko, and the fandom misrepresenting her character due to misinterpretation and bias, it’s clear that rather than Tenko being a perpetrator of misandry, she is a victim of misogyny.

What of Kaito and his sexism? Another point for Tenko’s case as a victim of misogyny in the DR fandom is that Kaito’s sexist views when applied to a number of the boys in NDRV3 is never called misandry. He very clearly states that his issue with them is that they are not acting according to his standards of masculinity, but even then, only Tenko is brought up as being a misandrist. This double standard when analyzing sexism in the two characters is misogynistic in that Tenko is held to a standard that Kaito never was. Not to mention that the aforementioned misandry(the idea that weakness is a bad trait in men because it is associated with women) is the result of toxic masculinity which stems from misogynistic views. On top of that, his comments to Maki aren’t exactly the most respectful of her capabilities or sensitive to her feelings. With all this in mind, one can say that, within the NDRV3 canon, he acts in a misogynistic manner.

In order to properly address the issues these characters have in regards to sexism, we must differentiate how they are affected by misogyny. There are a number of people who wish to separate Kaito’s misogyny from his other character traits due to either his implied background as being raised by his grandparents and, from just that, inferring that they would be conservative or simply due to a Kodaka writing him that way. No matter how you wish to explain away the origin of his sexist leanings, you cannot ignore his canonical actions. The way he is portrayed is as a sexist and to not address that either in canon or in your analysis of his character is to excuse the way he is written. Tenko and her relationship to misogyny is different. Thanks to the amalgamation of factors both in canon and by people, Tenko is affected by misogyny throughout her character as well, albeit as a victim, thus, examination of her actions should consider this to be a factor as well. Like with Kaito, the sexism at play should not be ignored, but instead, be examined in a different manner than Kaito. Though one could argue that Kaito, too, is a victim to sexist values, it will not change his position of oppressor, the actions he took, and words he said. In the end, Tenko is a victim of misogyny and Kaito is a participant of misogyny, unwittingly or not, and discussions, critiques, and analysis of either their characters or sexism should take care to address them accordingly.

[liadine]

rubs eyes this is yr regularly scheduled reminder that: I’m queer, I’m super queer, it’s a word that describes my identity and my community and my magic and my religion, and if you’re not big on the word it’s probably not a good idea for you to be following me.

(note: if you don’t like being labelled queer, that’s fine!) I’m happy to talk about the word’s history and why the recent backlash is led by transphobic jackasses. this isn’t exactly discourse, though, because goddamn I got out of activism a decade ago for REASONS. it’s just setting up the ground rules for my blog. 

[kobrakids]

FUCK PANIC AT THE DISCO AND BRENDON URIE SPECIFICALLY

absolutely. what's especially fucked up about brendon's case is that people who say "always believe survivors!" refuse to believe his accuser for the same bullshit reasons other survivors are ignored. it's all the same. not to mention all the other horrible shit brendon has done.