Ok so y'all remember how I'm S1 initially when Tommy questions Grace why she came to Birmingham since her references in Galway didn't check out. And y'all remember how his initial guess was because she got herself pregnant out of wedlock and she had a kid (Forshadowing? Irony?) Yall remember that part?....
Ok But what is she DID already have a kid? Maybe not a baby, but what if she did have a child of her own in S1 from when she was younger (she's like what 27ish 28? In S1? At least that's what she looks like, similar to Tommy's age?) and what if she left the child (I'm gonna say a girl for imagines sake) in Ireland while she was in Birmingham and never told Tommy about her.
Then you know all the S1-S2 drama happens and then Grace and Tommy go to get married and Grace finally tells him about the daughter (who's closer to Finn's age now) and now Tommy has a stepdaughter and Charlie. I think that would have be an interesting plot twist! And then once grace died Tommy would have been faced with raising two children both who probably reminded him of his late wife. I can see a lot of conflict arise then between the daughter and Tommy too if the girl blames Tommy for her mothers death!
And yeah, I think that could have been and interesting concept if it had occurred in the show. What if Grace really did have a child when she first came to Birmingham?
Ok here's an idea that's pretty short that I thought of and It seemed cute:
Remember when John and Tommy in season one were talking about making honest money out of the family business and Tommy imitated so their grandfather briefly and John says
"Do you remember when we were kids and you use to do the voices"
or something along those lines? First off that was such a cute scene and I wish we had more like it. Especially after season one and especially between Tommy and John, because I get they were very much polar opposites when it came to how they thought but I wish we had more brotherly moments like this between them. Because it's so cute imagining a young Tommy and John, when Tommy is still taller than John and they are sitting on 16 year old Arthur's bed waiting for him get back from dragging their father back from the bar. And maybe like a toddler Ada is squished between them trying to eat John's buttons because their mum is with Polly and they were told not to let the baby out of sight. But it's getting late and 10 year old Tommy can't keep 5 year old John's attention anymore. And when John's looses his attention things get broken and they defiantly don't want their father coming home to broken things. Not while their mother's gone. So Tommy tries one last effort to tell a story if John promises not to mess with the gun they both know is hidden in Arthur's desk and Tommy doesn't want John to accidentally hurt Ada while playing with the gun. So he started telling a random story he remembers hearing from Polly one day in his normal voice and even then John doesn't seem to into it. But when Tommy starts making different voices (slow and deep for the grand tree of high and fast for the small mouse) and John starts to laugh. And Tommy likes it too even though John is only laughing at the voices and little Tommy loves to make his sibling smile. And soon enough they would like get lost in the stories and both Tommy and John would fall asleep on Arthur's bed while Ada would still be between them wide awake from their laughter! And ohhh!! I like that idea and just wish we had a few more stories from when they were younger and the family wasn't as broken as it became😭
Ok so @twelvebomshell-blog hi! I'm sorry it took so long to respond but here is my response to this article you sent and asked my to look at about Finn and Duke and the Peaky Blinders movie! I'm gonna put it under the cut because i started to ramble...
The rivalry between Finn Shelby and Duke should move the new phase of the saga
Ok so this is really late but I was finally able to get around to reading the article! (I'm sorry it took me a bit classes got busy and then thanksgiving was too) But I finally got to read it and It was pretty interesting!
First off I agree with you and can't really see Finn as a villain. I really think that like the article mentioned with how he was kinda isolated from his family he really doesn't have the ability to go head to head as the others did. Plus even with his character I feel like he'd be more likely to actually just leave with his wife and not come back. Like even is he is furious and hurt about what happens I can see it being the breaking point where he just doesn't want anything to do with them at all even if it means revenge.
I also agree with you about Duke. I didn't really like his character much and I really do think he was just thrown in last minute as a plot point after Helen McCrory died🥲 I think it was SK's way of trying to get another young person in the film since Finn (Michael) can't be in the movie anymore and Harry wants to do other stuff (which is understandable) and I don't think SK wanted to make Charlie take over the business. Plus I can't see Tommy abandoning a child even if it was from a one night stand. It would have made for sense for Duke to be one of John's sons coming back. Or even Arthur's son! Heck it would have made for sense for him to be a half brother of theirs than it did for him to be Tommy's long lost son.
And back to the point I really don't completely blame Finn for Polly's death as he was taken advantage by Billy. The Finn and Billy relationship seems to be like why S1 Tommy and Grace's could have been (minus the romance) if Grace hadn't changed sides. I think Finn really didn't know what Billy was and saw him as a brother after John died.
So over all I think the article was interesting and brought up some good point however I personally don't think we'll see as the big bad or if we see him at all. Or at least I don't think it would be the best plot for the movie if he was the bad guy. I feel like the whole family betrayal phase has happened more than once with the family (First Tommy putting everyone in jail and the Michael being Michael) and I feel like if they did it again it may be over played. I think it would be more interesting if it focused more of WWII and how that's affecting everything rather than just the family drama. I honestly kind hope Finn's role is done in the way that if he isn't there I can pretend he started getting a better life and survived the war and stuff😂 At least one of the Shelby siblings needs to get a happy ending.
But if he was part of the movie I do have an idea for what part I'd like him to play. Because if he isn't in the movie I want him to live but if he is I hate to say it but I can see him dying in it. I feel like it would be some sort of poetic irony if he dies during the war and the only way his remaining siblings find out about is either when the KIA letter comes or when like Mary come back with their kid and like runs into the siblings and just goes off on them in her grief for all they did. I actually have a story planned out with an idea involving Finn and WWII that I really want to write out and post to my other account but idk if I'll get to it before December😂
And yeah, sorry for the rambling😂 long story short I found the article interesting, I agree with you able Dukes Character, and As much as I like Harry Kirton (or what I know about him) I don't think he's going to make an app wrench as Finn in the movie. I think Finn's time with the family has passed and considering the coming events he's not likely to survive WWII especially if SK continues with his pattern of killing everyone off.
Once again I'm sorry it took a while to get back to you about it! I had to start studying for midterms and then my thanksgiving was busy and now I have like two weeks before my finals start and I wasn't able to get on here much! Thank you for sending me the link! It was interesting to read and even though I slightly dread what will happen I'm interested to do what happens in the movie!! I hope you have a great day!! Thanks for discussing with me in enjoyed it and your more than welcome to ask more if you want!❤️❤️❤️
Ok so this is really short but it just popped in my head and made me laugh. But.
It the end events of S4-S6 didn't happen and everyone one was alive and like Polly and Abrama (I still can't spell his name someone help :/) got married..... Bonnie and Michael would have been step brothers...
and idk why but that idea just makes me laugh! I'm also interested to know how the family dynamic would have works form that point and would Polly and gone back on the Road and how that dynamic would have changed how some of them lived? Because we know like the Golds lived in their caravans and Polly lived in the house the boys bought her? But I just wonder if The Golds would have moved into the house or if Polly would have moved to live in the Caravans? Also I hope I'm wording this properly and I not offending anyone! I have a hard time wording things sometimes. I think either option is plausible I'm just curious to what may have happened? But the idea of Michael and Bonnie being stepbrothers makes me giggle😂 they seem live very opposite people!
Also I want to know what happens to the Gold Sisters after their Father died? Like we know there were three of them and I'm sure they had other family but there did they go? Dammit SK for leaving so many characters plots open!!!!
We know the Shelby family comes from Roma heritage (I can't think of that's the right term for it off the top of my head, please feel free to correct me if it's wrong). But we know in the show when a family member dies the funeral takes place with the deceased being burned in a caravan right?
So my question is why did their mother have a gravestone?
I know it's mentioned in S1 there's the scene where Tommy takes Finn to their moms grave and I thinks that when he tells Finn he's going to have to watch out for himself from then on. But it just makes me wonder why she would have a gravestone and wasn't burned in a caravan like the rest of those who died? Was it because they couldn't buy/get one at the time? We know they were still pretty poor around the time their mom died. Was it because their dad was still incharge then and didn't care about it enough to put in effort for a proper funeral? I can see that happening as well. Or do they even burn the decreased and make them a grave too? Like does John have a grave by their mother as well? Would it be right by Freddie and Martha? Because that just wouldn't make too much sense to me. Is it just SK with his regular continuity errors? Most likely but I'm still curious to know others thoughts....
Tommy's mid life crisis was him marrying the woman who almost completely destroyed and betrayed his family and who he also knew for less than a year before she ran to a whole other country instead of the pretty horse trainer who adored him and didn't betray his family.....
That is all...
*note I have no idea what mid life crisis age is but given the Shelby life span it could be any time...*
Hey Y'all! Let's play a new game called "Why I'd Die!" It's easy. Y'all just take your favorite show or movie and tell us why you WOULDN'T survive for very long! I'll go first:
I wouldn't survive very long in Peaky Blinders for one simple reason. Y'all know that thing Tommy does when he like grabs people face between his hand. Not "hands" like when he's lovingly holding Grace's face in his hands, but like when he grabs Finn's face in the "No Fucking Fighting" scene with one hand or Esme's in another. Y'all remember that thing? Yeah. See I may be able to survive the gang wars and feuds and general dangers of the 1920's (probably not) but the second Tommy would grab my face with one hand I'd be DEAD!!
Because if anyone grabs my face my general reaction is to grab theirs back. It's kind of a quid pro quo situation but completely lacing instinct😂. And if Tommy were to grab my face and squish my cheeks to get close and threatening, my only choice would be to grab his face and squish back. Only my grab would done with complete commentary of ✨squish squish✨ Because that is the only noise to make when grabbing someone's cheeks. The I would follow it up with a laugh because I laugh when I'm nervous which would absolutely not help the situation. Tommy would like come up and grab my face all mad asking if I betrayed the family and I'd probably just stare for a moment and reach up an ✨squish squish✨ before laughing and those would probably be my last words ever....
And yeah. It wouldn't matter if we are friends, lovers, enemies or anything else. It wouldn't matter how pissed off he is either. When someone grabs my face it's not the Fight or Flight instinct option I get, it the Fight, Flight, or Squish back and I will always choose squish. And if Tommy squish the I too will squish...
And that's why I wouldn't live long in Peaky Blinders.... Also because unless they are blood related to him women in Peaky have a habit of being killed off, run of, or they just disappear after a while and y'all know SK's general trendlines!
Ok so I just saw something with the quote from season one from Peaky Blinders where Tommy's calming the white horse that got scared by the noise and says
"In France we used to say it’s just the musical hall band turning up. Shh. It’s just trombones and tubas, that’s all."
and that made me think.
Because it reminded me of how in the first season Tommy doesn't want there to be singing/music in the Garrison (then he hears Grace and ....) but like it made me wonder if at that point, hearing music reminded Tommy of being in France and the Tunnels? Like for four years they said the bombs and other noises were trombones and tubas, now I feel like any time he actually hears those things he thinks of the bombs.
Because off the top of my head right now, we never really see Tommy like listening to music or anything like that (Like by his own choice/not at a party). And I don't think it's just because he doesn't seem the type to want to sit and listen to music. I think it could be partially because of his PTSD and the memories music may bring back to him. Because we also know he liked dancing with girls before the war (I think Polly mentions it) but after not so much. So it makes sense to me with the correlation too, where he also stopped wanting to dance because dancing often involves music and music reminds him of France.
And yeah, I know it's kinda a random thought but it just struck me and I'd thought I'd share...
