lunarfantom replied to your post: vegannerdgirl: All day, I deal with physician...
Both meat eater scientists and vegan scientists have their short comings. I’ve seen meat eating scientists insists that animals are incapable of emotions, attachments, or thought. Not to mention meat-happy science is cool with using lab rats and other animal experiments for our drugs instead of the way better organ in a chip system. :/
congrats you’re going to get me going on a special topic: the necessity of animal experiments in science when it comes to drugs.
First of, people are already using less animals then before because amazingly enough scientists aren’t psychopaths who get off on doing potentially damaging things to small fuzzy creatures. The idea is to reduce and replace as many animal tests as possible. But the thing is, it’s not always possible.
‘organ in a chip’ tell you fuckall about systemic interactions different organs exposed to the same drugs might have. Systemic interactions are incredibly complex and at the current point almost impossible to mimic, meaning that you have to go for in vivo tests on animals instead of in vitro because the in vitro only provides an incomplete picture, which may endanger actual humans lives if one jumped straight from the in vitro to the in vivo human. You need the bolstered safety measure of another whole, live creature somewhere between to try and avoid that the liver medication you developed doesn’t accidentally fuck up your immune system. Plus all the stuff on your body that’s not strictly one organ, like your immune system. Maybe the drug interacts funky with your immune response but you won’t see that unless you throw it at a whole immune system.
The alternative to using lab animals for systemic things is using humans. That’s not more humane, that’s less.












