odd question?? but What do you think of those gay guys that called everything a 'she'? (y'know the ones) If they call a transboy/nb 'she' would that be consider misgendering even tho they call cis boys 'she' too?? Or even if the trans folk is like "pls don't call me a she" but they keep fucking up bc is just the way they talk would that be considered being transphobic or rude even tho it has nothing to do with the person's gender??
I think it really depends on the individual these ‘gay guys’ use 'she’ towards - some trans men and/or nb folks may not mind... but some may do! Both for valid reasons!
As someone who’s genderqueer/non-binary, I can say it wouldn’t sit right with me personally. I already have to deal with being misgendered in every day life so, the context the ‘gay guys’ using it in wouldn’t really change how I feel about that. That being said, if we’re drunk/partying (lmao) maaaybe I’d be okay with it, because I can understand the difficulty with staying aware in an intoxicated state of mind, and getting caught up in the excitement :’) I think what my relationship with the person is would play a role in how I feel about it too...
But.......I definitely wouldn’t like it if I made it clear to them that I don’t want to be referred to as ‘she’ no matter the circumstance (which I do), because, regardless of how the intent may not be necessarily about gender, the impact those specific words can have can still be negative towards me - out of my control. It’s an emotional and mental response, not something I can just turn off/represses because of the intention the use of the word ‘she’ is differently than originally intended.
Again, this can be different depending who you ask/who is involved. If one is ever unsure, ask, or just, replace your words for the time being!!!
And, yes, if someone continuously misgenders someone else, even if it is a mistake, then it is rude/transphobic...or rather, the act of not being aware of what you’re saying and what impact that has, and thus not appearing to make an effort to correct that, is rude/transphobic.
It’s really not that hard to get used to - and the more you do it, the more practise that is, and thus, the more you’re likely not to fuck up! It’s all about awareness of what you’re saying and acting upon that to the best of your ability.
So, if someone has made it clear not to refer to them as a ‘she’ (or other terms that are typically surrounded in specific gender connotations)... People should make the best attempt not to - if they ‘fuck up’, they should apologise and make efforts to act on that apology (otherwise the apology is pretty pointless imo).
Sorry if I sounded a lil >:O in the end there, I’m not sure how else to word this without being direct/blunt ^^’ I promise you I’m not angry or anything... (I actually appreciate you asking rather than making assumptions so thank you for the message!)
If you have any other questions or if you wanna talk more about this, I’ll try my best to answer too ahaha :D I may have missed out some stuff here too ahaha...
If any trans folks/nb folks have any thoughts on the matter too - do share!