#quicksilver (1997)

[maximofflover]

quicksilver in shadow

from quicksilver 1997

[scarlet--wiccan]

Were the og brotherhood based out of magneto’s castle in the QS series? I feel like that came up there but it wasn’t something that I have any memory of from the silver age. It wasn’t asteroid m, correct?

I kind of wish we had more details about the twins time with the brotherhood but that feels like something I’d regret asking for if it ever came to be

Oof, okay, this question really led me down a rabbit hole. I just re-read a ton of old comics, and my main takeaway is that Magneto and the Brotherhood have been all over the place, and have lived on way too many castles and islands, some of which are not named, or only appear in single issues.

But, also, just so you know, your question was not entirely clear. I assume that you are asking about the abandoned castle, on what appears to be a small island in the Atlantic Ocean, that Pietro and Nestor visit in #13 of Quicksilver (1997). Pietro claims that this is where he and Wanda were brought by Magneto after he saved them from the mob. To my knowledge, this is either a very hasty retcon, or simply a continuity error, as no such castle was shown in previous depictions of their time with the Brotherhood.

In X-Men (1963) #4, the Brotherhood are shown living in the presidential palace of Santo Marco, which is a fictional country in South America that had been conquered by Magneto. This is the first time we meet Wanda and Pietro, so this is the setting you see in most flashbacks to their origins. In later comics, it was retroactively stated that Magneto had already established a base on Island M in the Bermuda Triangle-- you know, that place with the weird octopus castle-- so I assume that this is where they were living before they moved into the presidential palace.

After abandoning Santo Marco, the Brotherhood established their next base on Asteroid M. In X-Men #6, however, they are shown meeting with Namor on an unnamed island in the Atlantic, where Magneto had constructed an array of magnet-powered machines. A very similar, but different, island is also shown in Avengers (1963) #49, in which the twins temporarily rejoin Magneto, who wants to turn the island into a sovereign mutant nation. Sound familiar?

I believe that the castle in Quicksilver is based on or both of these small Atlantic islands, but to me it reads as a sort of... accidental composite setting. I think the writer just needed a place for that one scene, and they didn't want to bother checking all of the facts. And I get it-- like I said, these people were living all over the place, and it gets kinda confusing.

Avengers Origins: Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver, which is a dubiously canon retelling of Wanda and Pietro's backstory, expands on the Brotherhood's stay in Santo Marco. Here, Magneto seems to have set up permanent residence in the palace. The twins eventually flee from the Brotherhood and must escape the palace after Magneto becomes forceful and violent with them. In canon, however, they actually departed from the Brotherhood of their own volition during a skirmish in New York in X-Men #11.

[rivercule]

Yaoi moment

[rivercule]

Pietro voice: my only good in-law is a fish

[scarlet--wiccan]

Does Pietro have any notable villains for him particularly? I feel like he’s more involved with both mutants and inhumans so he kind of has a wider general pool, but I can’t think of anyone specifically, especially not with a more unique relationship to him than any other character. The best Lore equivalent I can think of is Luminous, but, she’s as much Wanda’s as his (though I am kind of picturing a SW issue where the twins and Lorna team up against Luminous, Lore, and Zaladane)

I feel like he arguably has the most antagonistic relationship with Magneto of Mag’s kids (bio or otherwise) which is something, I guess?

He definitely has the most consistantly antagonistic relationship with Magneto, although I'd argue that Lorna comes the closest to having an actually toxic parent-child relationship, but I'd have re-read a lot of X-Men material to defend that argument, so that's a conversation for another day.

He's got a few special enemies-- Maximus Boltagon put a psychic whammy on Pietro that turned him crazy and evil for a while in the 80s. Exodus and the Acolytes targeted Pietro and endangered Luna a few times in the 90s, and like I said, Modred and Chthon came after him when Wanda was missing in the early 2010s.

Anyways, Pietro's equivalent to Lore is actually this weird dude named Nestor.

Quicksilver (1997) #13

Nestor is a mysterious. older version of Pietro from an alternate/potential future timeline, who emotionally and psychologically torments Pietro throughout the Quicksilver solo series. His main goal is to push Pietro to achieve the full potential of his powers and follow the necessary path to maintain Nestor's timeline. So, he's not a totally evil world-destroyer like Lore, but he is a very creepy, sinister variant of Pietro from a presumably dark timeline.

Nestor urges Pietro to forgo his relationships, particularly with Crystal and Luna, and really lean into the violence and rage that Pietro believes he inherited from Magneto. Fortunately, Pietro ultimately defies his influence. This story is really interesting in contrast to Quicksilver: No Surrender, where Pietro actually expands his powers and defeats his sinister doppelgangers by slowing down, practicing mindfulness, and grounding himself with love and acceptance instead of rage.

In addition to Pietro's super speed, Nestor appears to possess some degree of Magneto's power (yet another thing that makes no sense after the retcon) as well as time-travel abilities. It's not clear if his time powers are connected to his speed or not, but several years later, Pietro's powers were artificially expanded to include time travel when he was dosing himself with Terrigen mist during Son of M. It's kind of a parallel to how Wanda accesses reality-bending powers through external augmentation, but it usually causes her to become evil or "go crazy," as is unfortunately common in superhero comics.

[wandaxpietro]

he’s v hot in this issue i appreciate it

[Quicksilver #9]

[wandaxpietro]

[Quicksilver #3]

[wandaxpietro]

“But today -- albeit for a short time -- the beast within me has been stilled.

Today... I belong!”

[Quicksilver #1]