About the italian 15x18
I don't know if someone is surprised but they shouldn't be. Italian dubs have always no-homoed everything more than it was possible, often with hilarious (yet sad) results. The first Tyrelliot "I love him" was no-homoed too.
Heck, they even censored a gay kiss some years ago and the creator of the show (Shonda, it was How to get away with murder) has to step up to force them to re-insert the kiss.
Some days ago Disney has been fined because it aired a "blasphemous" Griffin episode. Here gay marriages are illegal, gay couple can't adopt, not even if the kid is the bio child of one of them, a very bland law against homophobia has been stalled for 6+ months and likely it will fail, homophobic and transphobic opinions are mainstream. If you kiss your same-sex partner in public you risk to get beaten. Lately we got some progresses such as civil partnerships (w/o adoption) but honestly society is still overall homophobic. Besides we're under a strong hold of the Catholic Church, which is a cultural and political problem (it is able to influence laws and there is a big catholic lobby which includes most powerful politicians, 34000 companies and like 300000 people). Honestly this Church stuff is a can of worms.
My own family is composed by raging homophobes, TW EXPLICIT HOMOPHOBIA for example my father once told he would have set a singer on fire because he looks gay. My mother once said gay people deserve the electric chair, even if now she's got better and she's even pro gay marriage, she "only" call them slurs. All uncles and even cousins are homophobes as well, use slurs and are very conservative. I'm an outspoken bi person, usually, but for my own safety I have to stay barricaded in the closet in my home town. END TW
I'd add that Rai (our public cable TV which curated the dub) is even more "old-fashioned" than civil society, it's considered TV for boomers and bigots and its direction is parceled out among political parties, which are all socially conservative, more than the average citizen, who is already a lot conservative.
Like, on Sundays catholic masses are aired on the first channel and most young people stopped watching every Rai channel completely some years ago.
So we Italians are not surprised LOL.
On a light note every time Rai does something like that, it's usually with hilariously bad results, they can't never change the context or the other dialogues to make the censored dialogue be coherent.
