#rivet stab

[quirkwizard]

What are some quirks that synergize well together and would look like one quirk to other people? Like how Deku had originally said that Black Whip was apart of his original quirk rather than a completely different quirk. An example could if Bakugo had Landmine it would just be considered apart of his quirk because it causes explosions of other objects and could be easily believed by the public.

Ignoring any Quirks with direct relations, like the Iidas, the Himuras, or the Todorokis, there's only a handful of options that I think really fits that. At least, not without a lot of stretching of the concepts of one or both Quirks or going for two redundant options, like "Larceny" and "Attraction of Small Objects", "Confession" and "Polygraph", or "Homing" and "Boomerang". And I'll just stick to how you can fenagle them into a single Quirk.

-Black Whip/Rivet Stab: You can control your whips enough to harden them to a rigid point -Arbor/Vines: You have a plant body that you grow and control. You're hair just so happens to be vines. -Larceny/Slide and Glide: You've trained your propulsion enough to be able to attract things as well. -Somnambulist/Sleep Gas: You can push your gas to new heights, but makes it far more toxic. -Transform/Meatball: You can shape your flesh, but need a genetic staple to replicate others. -Softening/Stiffening: You can make things hard or soft instead of only one or the other. -Overlock/High Spec: You're brain is so advanced that you can overload your brain to make yourself faster. -Absorb and Release/Impact Recoil: You can redirect attacks, but it's easiest to do with kinetic energy. Anything else can be dangerous.

[quirkwizard]

Could you explain in depth and list all potential applications of rivet stab quirk please

There isn't a lot to say about "Rivet Stab". It lets the user make a series of dark tendrils that they can control over medium ranges. It can be used to stab into people, even breaking through stones, and can move the user around like a spider. However, they do seem pretty fragile with how often they get broken apart. A lot of its applications are pretty surface-level. You stab people with it. The most I think it could have going for it is how it can function outside of combat. It's something that can be removed from the user and inserted into other objects to stitch them together, like what All For One does with his mask. As for anything else that can be done with it: -Surge it through the ground to break up terrain -Stitch part of the terrain together for defense -Fire it outwards to counter a close ranged attacker -Torture someone by stabbing it into them -Break them off to fire them at people -Form them together to make large swords -Suddenly push them out to dodge someone -Trap someone by pinning them to something -Make ramshackle repairs to stuff -Augment close combat abilities with claws

[quirkwizard]

So you did a post where you made a high end nomu. This time make a upper tier nomu (four quirks and general body enhancement) but your aren’t allowed to use impact recoil, transforming arms, tool arms, or wing just to keep things interesting.

I wasn't planning on using any of them anyway, but okay. I'm also not using "Super Regeneration" because saying one of these Nomu have it is just as obvious as saying they have exposed brains. That being said, as a Mid Tier Nomu, my options are already pretty limited since it can use certain Quirks as well as a High End Nomu.

Muscle Augmentation: A good, strong basis for any Nomu, especially a simple one like this. Even with the physical augments it already has, the Quirk can still help it out. Just a general improvement to strength, speed, and durability, making it a viable threat while still leaving room for other Quirks.

Rivet Stab: Since I can’t have "Wings", I will go for the next best option. It’s simple enough that even a Nomu would be able to use it to get around. Plus it works to give it some extra offense with the other options, can damage anyone that tries to attack it, and gives it some much-needed range.

Springlike Limbs: While this can add some extra mobility by pushing the Nomu around, like what we saw with Tomura, it’s more an offensive option. With "Musucle Augmentation" and "Rivet Stab" it can do way more damage and work to help it avoid certain damage by sucking in the limbs.

Hypertrophy: Now just take everything else I talked about and crank it up to eleven. By growing out the body parts, the Nomu can just both dish out and take far more damage then normal. Just imagine a massive, spring loaded punch, covered in sharp, black spikes. That’s a lot of damage.

[quirkwizard]

The most obvious quirks to compare that haven’t gotten a comparison, despite basically being Yin and Yang. Blackwhip & Rivet Stab

Black Whip +Extremely flexible and adaptable +Great for moving people or the user +Placing it in the user can augment them +Becomes stronger the angrier the user is -Emotions can influence the whips' control and power

Rivet Stab +Very fast and can easily pierce people +Let's the user push themselves around =Can use contact based quirks through it =The user can selectively damage people -Tendrils are extremely fragile -Movement can be jagged and clunky

This one is difficult to talk about. Aside from how similar these two are, it all comes down to what you value more in a Quirk. "Rivet Stab" is more of a combat power, giving the user a quick and clean way of taking people out, while "Black Whip" has a lot more variety, being more of a jack of all trades kind of ability. However, I do think that "Black Whip" is a notably better Quirk. Yes, "Rivet Stab" is arguably a better combat Quirk given its speed and piercing power, but I think that "Black Whip" has more to offer in and out of combat thanks to its variety. Because it's so much safer to use and is far easier to manipulate, it opens up more opportunities to properly apply it. For example, Izuku placed the black whips inside his body to better protect himself from his own power and other attacks. That’s a really good defensive tool that would be hard to pull off with "Rivet Stab" because of its fragility. What's more, it can become stronger than before with the user's emotions. All the user needs to do is try and control those emotions, and they'll be fine, giving them access to greater power. It simply gives the user more options across the board, especially when compared to the far more simple and rigid "Rivet Stab", making it the superior Quirk in my eyes.

[quirkwizard]

I think Rivet Stab has some interesting implications in its activation. Forced Quirk Activation seems to be a "hand" quirk, at least based on the fact that both times it is used, the target had to be stabbed WITH Rivet Stab through AfOs hands.

I think that could make for some interesting combos, like if he had Zero G, he might be able to activate it using Rivet Stab.

It's funny you say that because it's one of the reason I dislike the Quirk. While it could just be because I prefer Quirk combinations to be interesting compliments of powers and not just completely circumvent drawbacks, I think having it be that way kind of mess with the story. Because it actually brings up a bit of an issue: Why didn't Tomura just erase Izuku or Bakugou? He could have easily done it. If “Rivet Stab” extend the range of touch based Quirks, then he should be able to combo the Quirk with “Decay” and just delete whoever he wants. He could have easily killed any of the heroes with that combination. And don't tell he can't combine Quirks yet. One of the first things we see him do is combine "Air Cannon" and "Radio Waves". For that matter, since "All For One" is based around touch, why not just use that through "Rivet Stab"? It just ends up making more problems.

[quirkwizard]

Hello quirwiz what do you think about new quirk called Rivet Stab??

I'm very mixed about the Quirk. On the one hand, I don't like the Quirk itself. For context, I really liked "Force Quirk Activation" as it was, seeing it as a unique ability and interestingly designed Quirk that made up for a weak effect in how it manifested. But then "Rivet Stab" came along and just wiped that Quirk from existence as I knew it. And what was left afterwards? Something that is just a less unique version of "Blade Tooth". So to me, it just replaced one Quirk with something far less interesting. And it feels like there was some retconning with it as well. Remember when all those people were stabbed, but ultimately left unharmed by it?

However, there is one thing I like about the Quirk, and that is how it ties into everything thematically. I commented about "Blade Tooth", but the Quirk shares more similarities with "Black Whip" by the user making black tendrils from their body, which I believe was intentional. It's to show growth of the two characters with how their reach and power is increasing, but the two go about it in different ways. "Black Whip" is far more support oriented, being more flexible and having a smoother look. Meanwhile, "Rivet Stab" is far harsher, featuring hard, jagged lines, and is more oriented towards combat with its piercing power. It's to show how the two are developing in similar ways, but are still going down different paths.

[quirkwizard]

What are the Quirks you dislike the most

I have talked about this before, but I could always update this, go into more detail, and link some posts in which I talk even more about this.

My least favorite Quirk is "Black Hole". It's a basic, overpowered ability that doesn't lend itself any sort of creative thinking on the part of the user. And unlike other abilities in the series, Thirteen isn't fleshed out enough to have the Quirk be interesting from a character or story perspective. I have similar issues with "Half Cold Half Hot" and "Rewind", especially with how they set poor examples for Quirks in the series, but at least those have a wider ranger of applications and a strong connection to the characters' stories to help make it interesting. However, I do think that "Rivet Stab" may be on this list if only because it retroactively killed what I thought was a much cooler ability. Now all we are left with is a boring version of "Blade Tooth".