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“I thought a long-standing curiosity had finally been satisfied” - Dana Scully
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Hello, I noticed that on the transcript of MAG 161, Gertrude's message to her successor is noted as having been recorded on March 20th, but I can't find anything which suggests that. Could you let me know where you got that date? Thanks :)
Absolutely! I think I rushed the logic and there’s actually a window of a few days (which I will go back and indicate,) but here’s the general calculation:
To start, Manuela Dominguez’s live statement in MAG 143 “Heart of Darkness” says that the Dark Ritual happened in the week leading up to and including March 20th, 2015:
MANUELA It was to be a week of night and horror, culminating in the eclipse that passed over Ny Ålesund on the 20th of March, 2015, almost three hundred years after Halley’s eclipse passed over London.
Later in her statement, she goes on to say that:
MANUELA I think Maxwell first felt the ripples four days before the eclipse was due. It was strange[...] A disruption. We would later learn that this was the collapse of the ritual at Hither-Green.
Four days before the eclipse means Hither-Green collapsed on March 16th. She then describes the ritual as a whole failing right at the time of the eclipse, which we already know occurred on March 20th:
MANUELA ...at last, we felt it. The eclipse[...] And then, it stopped. It just. Stopped.
Then, in 161 itself, Gertrude mentions that the Dark ritual should be collapsing at that moment:
GERTRUDE If my guess is right, the Church's ritual should be collapsing any time now, so- immediately.
This puts us at March 16th if Gertrude had been referencing Hither-Green, or March 20th if she had been talking about the Dark ritual as a whole.
However, there’s also the minor detail of the lie Elias gave in season 1:
It’s implied in MAG 158 “Panopticon” that Elias came and shot Gertrude soon after the scene in 161 takes place-- she’s got the petrol in hand, and in 161 we hear her with said petrol telling Leitner to shift the gas main. Gertrude also again references the Dark ritual’s potential collapse-- meaning, it hasn’t happened yet-- to Elias during their final conversation:
GERTRUDE I’d rather hoped you’d still be hampered with all the Dark’s business. It’s their Grand Eclipse at the moment, isn’t it?
ELIAS But I think we’ve both come to the same conclusion about that. That’s why you’re here.
All this to say that it’s almost certain the scene in 161 takes place the same day as Gertrude’s death. And in MAG 040 “Human Remains,” Elias gives his lie about finding the blood in Gertrude’s office as having happened on March 15th. If we accept the presence of a writer error, then this matches with the “May” 15th mentioned in MAG 29 “Growing Dark” in the statement followup-- but either way, we know the March date is more accurate because it corresponds to the ritual.
In MAG 11 “Dreamer,” Oliver Banks also forecast Gertrude’s “death--” though it doesn’t seem to match the way it happened-- on March 12th, and gave a window of 8-10 days based on his prior experience.
Which means: we have a window of March 15th - 20th for when this scene was recorded, likely skewing towards the earlier side of that bracket. I will update the transcript accordingly.
album thing, uhhh how about the black parade??
this is the right question lets fucking goooooo
TBP best to worst imho
1. House of Wolves
this song sounds like fucking in hell and it absolutely slaughters every other song on the album. no question. plus the knowledge that franks guitar part, and by extension the whole song, was inspired by wyle E coyote's brethren playing jazz in cartoon hell is just *chefs kiss*
2. Mama
This song goes so hard. Only second bc HoW knows when to restrain itself and Mama never got that memo. She fucks. Bonus points for teaching 11yo me what “coddle” meant.
3. Sleep
One of ironically the most slept on MCR songs. Also one of the most emotional. Also...who the fuck thinks to warp a recording of them talking about their night terrors in a way that elicits empathy and melancholia instead of horror? Shit is genius. Also the crescendo at the end fucks me up every time.
4. Famous Last Words
I feel like this song gets brushed aside bc it was a release and/or bc like 90% of MCR tattoos quote this song. But it’s a rally cry song for a reason and musically/lyrically one of the most mature songs on the album I’d say. It’s fucking beautiful.
5. Dead!
This was my first favourite song off the album when I got it and it’s still suuuper solid. It’s fun as fuck and really embodies the camp MCR is known for. Also a fun turn-around on the messages sent to mentally ill kids. How u gonna tell us to kill ourselves if you’re dead? Haha. Oh nobody likes me? You never fell in love. Very fun and cathardic. Also rays woody-woodpecker guitar solo cracks me up
6. Teenagers
This song is so fucking fun and honestly? Teens need more songs like this. I truly didn’t know the power I had as a kid until this song came out and more adults should own up lol. Plus it’s just a fucking banger.
7. The Sharpest Lives
Lyrically this song is so fucking intense and really shows off gerard’s poetic prowess. also letting mikey shineeee on that bass for a minute. only this far down the list because i feel like this and TIHWD are lowkey kind of the same song done differently. Sister songs easily. Fun fact I sang this song at the talent show for my “girls go” group in 6th grade. The leaders were........concerned lol.
8. The End.
Great opening song, just a bit understated for my taste. Makes perfect sense in that it’s a concept album and this is the introduction, you don’t wanna give it all away. It’s transition into Dead! though? Fucking perfect.
9. Blood
It’s just fucking funny and great satire. Also absolutely what me and my friends sang in the halls of our elementary school to scare people. Music video brings it down significantly. It’s funny but also just fucking weird get out of that locker room.
10. Disenchanted
I actually really liked this song when the album first came out. I know it’s like a signature Sad Boy song but I’d never heard someone talk so willingly about going to hospital or substance reliance before and it was Super Relevant. Could be more...just more, though. You know? It’s got potential.
11. This is How I Disappear
It’s a good song but it’s The Sharpest Lives with a less impressive chorus. Come on, gerard, i know you’re a better lyricist than that. Still fun to headbang to though.
12. Welcome to the Black Parade
Honestly it’s not the quality of the song that has it down here, it’s a musically awe-some song, Lyrically? Beautiful. It’s a fucking masterpiece. I just have heard it so many fucking times and done it on kareoke so many times that im tired of it. Listening to the same album for 14 years, youre gonna go dry on some of the songs. I also feel like the ~amazing~ ness of WTTBP often overshadows some of the other equally complex and amazing songs on the album like HoW and Mama.
13. Cancer
Beautiful song, but if you’re gonna go full ballad on an album full of bangers, you gotta bring it right down to basics. Just piano and vocals or something, maybeee a bass. As it stands, it clouds the song too much. Also just...not the kind of ballad that’s my thing, and that’s okay.
14. I Don’t Love You
I doubt this is a controversial opinion. Lyrics are weaker, though there a few punchy lines. It feels like the rest of the songs got worked through a million times over and this one only got 1000 times. Plus, it’s the inadvertant blackface in the music video for me. smfh.
are Andrew Weaver's recent tweets/replies as awkward as they feel to me or??
They are. Here’s some of them:
Andrew Weaver (BC Green Party leader) is an arrogant asshole. He’s a party leader and he’s smearing citizens (he was accusing people who support teachers as NDP partisans), attacking other political leaders, name calling, blatantly lying (saying the NDP was absent during the 2014 teachers strike when they were actively there).
This isn’t even going into the Green candidate’s offensive MLK speech (and Weaver’s defence of that candidate’s racist caricature); another Green saying that he wasn’t concerned if the BC Liberals won the election, and comments surfacing that show Andrew Weaver has been making disrespectful comments towards teachers.
The BC Greens are a complete mess this election. If I was a Green supporter I’d have a hard time defending them after this week.
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do you have any sort of 101 guide to BC's upcoming election? disability stuff makes it really hard for me to keep up with politics, and I'm not sure how to figure out who to vote for beyond like, trying to prevent Christy Clark from holding office again.
Elections BC has a very useful website set up for the BC election.
Closer to the election Vote Compass will be launching a quiz which aligns your views with those of the political parties.
Personally, if you want to help prevent Christy Clark & the BC Liberals from being elected, voting NDP is the best option. The BC Greens are only competitive in a small number of ridings (mostly on Vancouver Island). Beyond those select few ridings on Vancouver Island, the strategic candidate to beat the BC Liberals will almost always be the NDP (currently the BC NDP has about 38% support, the BC Liberals 36%, and the BC Greens 15-18%).
And if you have any specific questions about the BC election I’ll be happy to help answer. :)
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I assume you've been following the vancouver terribleness as well? so grossss
Yeah, what’s going on with BLM Vancouver/Vancouver Pride and Vancouver Police is all kinds of gross too. =/
There’s a lot of the same racist/demonizing comments being made towards BLM Vancouver too as happened in Toronto.